Feeling like a TOTAL loser (long) - page 2
I am a new RN, graduated in May. My first job was in the rehab dept of a LTC and assisted living facility. I quit because I relocated. Before that, I worked as a CNA in LTC. Anyway, I moved to... Read More
Oct 15, '07Occupation: RN Specialty: GYN/GON/Med-Surg/Oncology/Tele ; From: US ; Joined: Jul '07; Posts: 364; Likes: 100I've yet to even apply to a nursing program but can definitely relate. I'm working on getting my second degree and I too went through the same things you've gone through. I couldn't find a job fresh out of college to save my life. I felt like a complete loser constantly crying myself to sleep. My family suggested I work at McDonald's or some fast food joint just until I could find another job. At the time I thought I was too good to work at a fast food restaurant...I mean me, with my four year degree making 5.15/hr the minimum wage in my hometown at that time. I thought that was ridiculous and the audacity of them to even suggest it made me furious. I've somewhat swallowed my pride and told myself that I have to start somewhere so now I'm employed as a CNA...to hopefully gain valuable experience.
Now I'm back in school trying to get a my BSN. I made a bold move and I do mean BOLD!!! I first applied to the community college back home, sent in a deposit for the tuition payment plan waited til a month before the semester began to submit all of my supporting documents to the school I'm currentlly attending. After being accepted, I applied online to the huge hospital here and the next day was scheduled for an interview. I came for my interview and was offered a second interview. After my first interview, I called and cancelled the tuition payment plan and withdrew myself from the community college.
After about 3 weeks, I was struggling to find a place to stay because no more spots were available on campus and the nice apartment complexes were filling up so quickly...besides I honestly didn't have the money to afford them. I had a friend who stays here come and look at a house that was on the displaced students list. She thought the house looked nice...me well it's a totally different story but at that point I really didn't have a choice so now I'm here, was ready to quit after my first week of school because of the disorganization or well what I thought was disorganization being I came from a school that I felt was extremely well put together. But there's really no comparing the two. I apologize for ranting, I really just need to clear my head a bit.
Anyway, back to your dilemna...the hospital in my hometown has a unit they call Palmer Hinson...basically it's a rest home inside the hospital. It can't possibly be the only hospital in the US that has a such unit. Perhaps if you research the different hospitals in your area, FL, TN, whereever it is you'd like to live, you could come across a similar unit. That way you could not only utilize the skills you've learned from your nursing studies but you could also get the benefits of working at a larger maybe more hectic environment if that's something you look forward to.
Oct 16, '07Occupation: Clinical Analyst Specialty: 25 year(s) of experience in Psych, Informatics, Biostatistics ; From: CA ; Joined: Jun '03; Posts: 641; Likes: 102Advice: suck it up and apply to med-surg in one of the bigger hospitals in FL. Perform, learn: the experience is totally worth it for the next 30 years of your career.
Oct 16, '07Specialty: 28 year(s) of experience in Med/surg,Tele,PACU,ER,ICU,LTAC,HH,Neuro ; Joined: Sep '07; Posts: 463; Likes: 177Have you thought of la stint in Long term Acute Care. It is somewhat stressful,vut your admits are less than med/surg and they last for months. You might have to learn some Tele,maintanance drips. Many are vent patients and all are total care. You wouldn't have more than 5 or 6 pts, day or night.
Oct 16, '07Occupation: Corrections,pre-op Specialty: 12 year(s) of experience in corrections, LTC, pre-op ; Joined: Aug '06; Posts: 80; Likes: 26Quote from Jen1228City and County jails many of them will take you without one year experience! I know this for a fact.Thanks newb, it's nice to know I am not alone. I will check out your blog. Sorry you had such a bad experience. I too spent all of nursing school trying to be absolutely perfect and I think I burnt myself out on the high stress environment. I actually have applied to three different ads for an office nurse, but no calls back. They all wanted a year of experience, but I figure I would give it a shot. I should have been more specific, but most of the nursing homes I applied to do have skilled nursing care floors. As far as corrections or the health dept, there are openings, but again, they want at least a year of experience. Thanks for your insight and good luck to you. Where do you plan on working now?
Larry in Florida RN.
Oct 16, '07Joined: Jul '06; Posts: 1,394; Likes: 217Did you move to Florida by choice? If so, what attracted you there? If not, well, I"m sorry.
I think you will do very well in any job you take, as it sounds like you are dedicated and willing to work hard to give top notch care to your patients.
I wish I knew how to advise you specifically, but no one can do that, not knowing you and all the details.
I do wish you the best and hope you will update us as things progress. You might work agency but that would be pretty tough for a new grad, I think, plus the agencies probably want some experience.
Here's a thought - hire on part-time at a couple of places and see what you like about each place. Then decide. Or, can your pals at the one hospital get you hired on? Nothing like having some friends to help you get in. Nothing wrong with using that advantage either, so don't feel guilty. Someday you can return the favor or pass it on to someone else.
Oct 16, '07Joined: Aug '07; Posts: 72; Likes: 9Well I went on an interview today at a LTC facility. It is an okay place, pretty old, but they were the only ones in the state to not get any tags from JCHO (they said, I don't know how to verify). I thought the interview went well. The DON had an LPN give me a tour and afterwords, the LPN told me the DON would call me after she interviewed a few more people. I am not used to this. In TN, I applied for 3 jobs right out of school and was offered positions at all 3. I guess there is not as much of a nursing shortage here.
I also applied yesterday at all three hospitals in the area. I hope someone calls. I have decided that if I am offered a job in med-surg, I will take it. It is a good experience and I need to get in my year. One of the other nursing homes called while I was at my interview, I called back but the woman was at lunch. I really like LTC but I want to take care of the skilled nursing patients. At the place I interviewed at today, the DON said they have about 20 SN pts (PICC lines, IV antibiotics, wound vacs) but they are spread out, not all on one hall. I would have about 20 regular patients and 5-6 skilled on 11-7. That seems like alot, especially for a new grad. I would rather have only SN pts.
Anyway, I am waiting to talk to the other nursing home. I hope they have a skilled nursing wing that I could work in. When I was a tech, there was a skilled nursing hall at the nursing home. There were 2 nurses for about 30 patients at night, 3 nurses in day shift. I think I could handle it, especially with another nurse.
I want to thank everyone for all of there advice and support. I will keep you all updated.
Oct 16, '07Joined: Aug '07; Posts: 72; Likes: 9TrudyRN
Yes, I moved to FL by choice. My dad passed away in 2004 and my sister and I inherited his house here. Renting it out has been more trouble than it's worth, so I decided to come live here for a while. Unfortunately, I don't know ANYONE here, other than my boyfriend who moved with me. I have applied to a couple agencies, one told me I need a year of experience and the other didn't respond. I am definitely interested in working part time, especially since I will be starting up my BSN classes again in January. Most of the places I applied want fulltime. Do you think telling them I really want part time would affect their decision to hire me?
Oct 16, '07Joined: Nov '06; Posts: 374; Likes: 142Quote from Jen1228The more types of nursing you are willing to try, the greater the odds of finding a part time position as a new grad. Just apply to hundreds of jobs. Also, just because a job listing says full time doesn't mean that they won't hire you as part time. Apply to all jobs including full time positions and let them know right away that you want part time.TrudyRN
Most of the places I applied want fulltime. Do you think telling them I really want part time would affect their decision to hire me?
Oct 16, '07Joined: Aug '07; Posts: 72; Likes: 9Another update: One of the hospitals just called and I have an interview on Thursday! It's a oncology floor with about 30% med-surg. Sounds okay for a new grad, right? I did a semester of nursing school on the same type of floor. I didn't really like it but it was more due to the facility and nurses than the actual pt load. Hopefully it will go well and I can get started working on my year of med-surg. This would count as med-surg, right?
Oct 16, '07Occupation: R.N. Joined: May '07; Posts: 3,228; Likes: 3,680Quote from Jen1228Of course.Another update: One of the hospitals just called and I have an interview on Thursday! It's a oncology floor with about 30% med-surg. Sounds okay for a new grad, right? I did a semester of nursing school on the same type of floor. I didn't really like it but it was more due to the facility and nurses than the actual pt load. Hopefully it will go well and I can get started working on my year of med-surg. This would count as med-surg, right?
I took an oncology position when I graduated, because it was the only one available at the time. I'd been wanting to start in ICU/IMCU, but I found my niche. I've worked different units over the years, but I always come back to oncology.
Oct 16, '07Joined: Apr '00; Posts: 24,611; Likes: 35,453Quote from Jen1228right, right, right.:chuckleThis would count as med-surg, right?
this sounds like a wonderful opportunity.
not just for the med/surg but for the oncology experience.
you will learn so much.
this could be the blessing you've been looking for.
let us know what happens.
fingers crossed for you.
Oct 16, '07Occupation: RN Specialty: GYN/GON/Med-Surg/Oncology/Tele ; From: US ; Joined: Jul '07; Posts: 364; Likes: 100Quote from Jen1228Sadly, the answer is yes...at least in my opinion. I couldn't get a job because of my honesty...how crucial is that? Interviewers would ask me what my future plans were and I told them I plan to go to nursing school within the next few years. I also told them that I was planning on taking a few classes at the community college that next semester. They would tell me that they think I'm overly qualified for the position and they were looking for someone who was going to be there for a while. I'm thinking to myself just because someone tells you they're going to be there within the next 5 years doesn't mean LIFE doesn't happen and they eventually end up leaving you out in the cold. I just thought that was stupid.TrudyRN
Do you think telling them I really want part time would affect their decision to hire me?
The bad side to you not telling them you would prefer a part-time position is you'd end up getting a full-time position. I know at the hospital I just started working at, you have to wait 6 months before switching units...they didn't say anything about shortening or lengthening your work week. Basically it could go either way...GOOD LUCK. I'm sure you'll find something that will fit your needs...At least I hope you will.
Oct 18, '07Joined: Aug '07; Posts: 72; Likes: 9Update: I went on an interview today at the med-sug/oncology floor. It went awesome! My patient ratio would be 5-6 (alot better than 30 like in LTC) and my orientation would last around 6 weeks, depending on how comfortable I feel. I can have 2 different preceptors if I want, I do cause I think it will give me different points of view, how to do things. I really liked the floor so far. I go back Monday night for a peer interview to see if I will "mesh well" with my coworkers. The nurse manager said it was no big deal, very casual. If all goes well with that, I will do my paperwork with HR and get my physical. I will start classroom orientation on the 29th then start the floor the next week! I am excited. She said it was a great place to start out because they have other new grads and nurses that have been there for 20 years and like to teach. It's 7p-7a, which I didn't really want, but I know it will be alot more relaxed and easier to get used to everything. Just wanted to keep you guys informed and say thanks again for all the support!
PS While I was taking a tour of the unit, one of the nurses came out of a pt room and said "There is a tornado outside!" Sure enough, there was and then I heard CODE BROWN. It dissipated quickly and didn't damage the hospital, but as I drove home, nearly every road was blocked by fallen trees or the traffic signal were out! Apparently that's where the eye of the storm was. I'm glad I was inside a huge building when it happened!