blackmail by hospital - page 2
Hello, everyone, I'm new to this forum but I'm hoping someone can help me. I've been working in ER for about a year and have been unhappy with it for several months. One of the reasons I went staff... Read More
Nov 21, '02Occupation: RN Joined: Nov '02; Posts: 36poppyrn.....
I managed an ER where self scheduling and 12 hrs were in play. It is very difficult to balance a full schedule with the appropriate mix of staff especially in an ED
Know and play by all your hosp P/P and then stick to you guns. You are being suckered by the administration. I know. I've seen almost every dirty trick by uncaring managers. Staffing is the managers job and there are tons of nurses to be had at the lift of the phone. NEVER jepardize your license or a pt's safety by being bullied by a manager that isn't a leader. You are in charge of your career, you decide how to practice your profession, you are the person in control of your actions. These are all of the thoughts you must believe or they will come back to bite you when you make a mistake and your manager asks, "Didn't you know what you were doing?"
Nov 21, '02Joined: Nov '02; Posts: 2A huge thank you to everyone!!!! The support from this board is unbelievable! You are all a great group of people. I did have a conference call with VP and my manager this afternoon and stuck to my guns. We spoke for 30 minutes and I even told them they were blackmailing me, but it didn't change anything. They told me to let them know by tommorow if I was resigning or not. So , I got off the phone and thought- yes they are screwing you, are you going to b*tch and moan about it or do something? I called around and spoke to places and ended up interviewing with a husband and wife RN team who own a HH agency. Not sure if I want to do HH, but I have nothing to lose and a change might do me good. These guys were wonderful and they understood the problems with hospitals. Best of all, they had even been through a similar thing. No weekends or holidays and the husband says he'll do just about anything to keep happy employees- happy employees mean more money for him. I start Dec. 15. Tommorrow I will tell my manager the "good news". Not that she'll know where I'm going. And i'm still going to file a grievance. She 's got another thing coming if she thinks I'm backing down! I WILL have a good reference from that place. Thanks again so much to everyone. I'll keep you posted. Poppyrn
Nov 21, '02Occupation: Full time student Joined: Nov '02; Posts: 758; Likes: 2Even if HH isn't for you, it'll give you a break from this hospital. The hospital probably thinks that you will just fold...won't they be surprised!
Let us know what happens when you tell them!
Nov 21, '02Joined: Oct '02; Posts: 60,384; Likes: 16,559Hi & Welcome. Nothing new to add. When is management going to realize this type of stuff causes loss of nurses.
It's no wonder that unit is short staffed if that is the way you're treated.
Nov 22, '02Joined: Nov '01; Posts: 765; Likes: 14Don't be a slave to a job. You have thankless management. Like the others said on this thread, experience is golden you can go anywhere. Never kiss a job's ass. Screw them. You do not live your life to serve them!!!!!!!
Nov 22, '02Occupation: RN Specialty: 7 year(s) of experience in ICU, nutrition ; Joined: Jan '02; Posts: 905; Likes: 281I just looked through my P&P book. It said nothing about working upcoming holidays if you give sufficient notice that you are quitting. I'd vote with my feet! Broken promises are just not cool. Your manager sounds like a real ass. Too bad there are so many like that!
Nov 22, '02Occupation: RN Joined: Nov '99; Posts: 2,950; Likes: 619Congrats on your decision to take the HH position.
This all or nothing attitude is for the birds. For folks who did not want to loose you the have a funny way of showing it.
Sometimes I'd like to take management by the neck (oops I didn't really mean that) and take them back to school to actually learn what you are suposed to do in management. You know how to really manange. They actually do teach this stuff. I often wonder why these folks never learned it. And If they never took a class why not?
Nov 22, '02Specialty: Clinical Risk Management ; Joined: Aug '01; Posts: 2,345; Likes: 75I'm proud of you, poppyrn, for standing up to them & taking care of yourself!
Good luck in the HH position. I hope it works out well for you!
Positive thoughts being sent your way,
Nov 22, '02Joined: May '02; Posts: 827; Likes: 42Good for you Poppy!!! Don't back down!!! And enjoy the holidays!!!!
Nov 22, '02Joined: Apr '02; Posts: 38,751; Likes: 16,271Life is way too short...you did the right thing. You are the only one who will look after your own best interests, after all. Good luck!
Nov 22, '02Occupation: RN Joined: Jun '02; Posts: 415; Likes: 1YOU GO POPPY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
so glad you stood up for yourself
Nov 22, '02Joined: Jan '02; Posts: 5,673; Likes: 159I would be a zombie working 5-12's. Trouble is there's always a few workaholic nurses around so management thinks they can threaten and cajole the rest of us to abuse our bodies in that way.
"Dickensian maids"...I like that reference to how nurses are treated....very appropriate.
Good for you for sticking to your guns! Even if you do not get a good reference from 'em...not to worry.... simply and unemotionally state your case to future employers and that should erase any negative vibe they get from the hospital.
'Their policy was to mandate 5 12 hr shifts a week and I cannot tolerate a 60 hour week...I am not safe...so I felt compelled to resign."
Hope you enjoy your HH job...let us know how it goes!!! :rollLast edit by mattsmom81 on Nov 22, '02
Nov 23, '02Occupation: RN Joined: Oct '00; Posts: 2,662; Likes: 46<I called around and spoke to places and ended up interviewing with a husband and wife RN team who own a HH agency. Not sure if I want to do HH, but I have nothing to lose and a change might do me good.>
Experienced ER RN & now HH too? Do you realize how in demand you will be in the home care setting with your critical care skills??? You may end up loving it. And even if you dont, youre at least filling up your resume and making yourself more marketable for future endeavors. Good decision. Theres just too many places for RNs to go now - you dont have to work in the conditions your manager is forcing on you. Their loss. Tell your VP youre sorry she chose to lose an excellent experienced RN, especially at this time of a national RN staffing crisis, but pt safety must come first.
I think once you resign, you give up the right to a grievance at the workplace. But you dont have to go away quietly. You can always file with the NLRB instead, get a lawyer & fight that you were forced out of the job. If you win, you dont have to take the job back, but they may have to pay you back salary. A 1 hour consultation with a labor lawyer would let you know if you have a case strong enough to go after that money.Last edit by -jt on Nov 23, '02