Atkins Diet - page 8
Hello, I was just wondering if anyone knows anything about the Atkins diet??? I have been hearing good things about it again, and I was thinking of trying it. I have never been on a diet before... Read More
Dec 10, '02Joined: Oct '01; Posts: 580; Likes: 14Aren't carbs necessary for survival?????????????????
Dec 10, '02Occupation: RN, MSN student Joined: Mar '02; Posts: 1,223; Likes: 1That's nice ... now where are my sugar free chocolate chips!?!?!
Dec 11, '02Occupation: ED-Trauma RN Specialty: ED, Trauma ; From: US ; Joined: Dec '02; Posts: 51; Likes: 197Yes, carbs are necessary for life. The Atkins diet does not do away with all carbs as a lot of people (who have NOT read the book) think. You start with a two week period of extremely low carbs and then every week add more back in until you stop losing weight and hit a maintenance level for you particular body. As Dr. Atkins explains in the book and as I learned in basic physiology (and from watching the 2nd Survivor :-) the body does have an alternate fuel system that burns stored body fat in the event of low carb intake. (Why do you think the body was designed to store fat to begin with???---for survival!)
Many people (again who have not read the book) think that all you do on Atkins is sit back, eat lots of juicy red meat and dripping bacon and lose weight. This is far from the truth. In the book he specifically says "If you are not exercising then you are not doing Atkin's" He also says that he strongly recommends that you only have red meat a couple of times a week and concentrate on fish and other meats and nuts that have proven to have healthy benefits. His other big push is "take your vitamins and "eat your vegetables".
Where have I heard that before?
What a lot of people ignore (who are probably lean and fit) is that not everyone's body is as efficient as theirs is. My mother followed a low fat, high fruit, whole wheat, etc. etc. etc. diet for several years and lost next to nothing except her temper occaisionaly from being hungry.
I have NOT done Atkins yet--but I have read the book and several of the long list of his cited references at the end of the book to make sure that my Mom wasn't killing herself. After six months now She is Not! She has lost over 30 lbs and feels great (see my above posting). And, after reading the book and references I am convinced that he is on to something important. See the above post from the woman who did two years of independent research on this topic and saved her husband! It is incredible and hard to refute!!
One last thing...for those of you who think this is just a "willpower issue" I can tell you from watching my Mom refuse her favorite chocolate cake for years (except on her Birthday!!) that it is not that easy. I also found Dr. Mercola's studies very interesting (see the above post that mentions him) and do the research before slamming Dr. Atkins or anyone following his program.
Just my two cents...Last edit by ScrappyEDRN on Dec 11, '02
Dec 11, '02Occupation: R.N. Specialty: 27 year(s) of experience in cardiac, diabetes, OB/GYN ; Joined: Feb '02; Posts: 1,947; Likes: 418Nights just wreaks havoc with a person.....Isn't this kind of a ketoacidotic type sort of weight loss?
Dec 11, '02Occupation: R.N. Specialty: 27 year(s) of experience in cardiac, diabetes, OB/GYN ; Joined: Feb '02; Posts: 1,947; Likes: 418High fruit and whole wheat? Sugar sugar sugar...Low fat usaually means people consume more and what ARE low fat foods full of? Sugar sugar sugar....The American Diabetic diet is the most inclusive and healthy, but now a days we want to lose weight FAST FAST FAST..(me included )
Dec 11, '02Occupation: CNA Joined: Jun '02; Posts: 485; Likes: 15I HAVE read the book, by the way. But a lot of the people who haven't are the ones eating the bacon and cheese and eggs and steak. And they DO lose weight. But they gain it back. But my friend who read the book and did it right and exercised still got kidney stones. And he was always tired. He stopped the diet and felt better. Hey, to each their own but it just seems like a quick fix and most of the people I know who have tried it gained the weight back. Unless you are going to PERMANENTLY decrease your carb intake, you are most likely to have rebound weight gain.
Dec 11, '02Occupation: CNA Joined: Jun '02; Posts: 485; Likes: 15Yeah, I think once your body goes into ketosis, you begin losing weight. I always thought ketosis was a bad thing. My brother is on a ketogenic diet for seizures(no carbs at ALL) and he constantly has to be monitored for complications. If there are complications, the diet is adjusted. This is done under the strict supervision of a doctor.
Dec 11, '02Joined: Sep '02; Posts: 2,066; Likes: 12This argument (although a good one!) could go on and on...
What is important is that you chose the diet that fits the lifestyle you are comfortable with, and make it an informed choice. There will always be Atkins bashers and doubters, but for me....it works. I have a friend whose triglicerides were frightening......and he followed a lo fat diet religiously. He went on Atkins and his levels are now normal. He continues to follow a low carb diet. To each his own. And ...excercise....even if you just walk.....
Dec 11, '02Occupation: ED-Trauma RN Specialty: ED, Trauma ; From: US ; Joined: Dec '02; Posts: 51; Likes: 197I agree that you will gain the weight back if you go back to eating the way you did before. That is true of any "diet" Dr. Atkins even says that in the book. He warns you at the beginning that this is a "lifetime" way of eating.
The only reason that I haven't tried it is that I am not ready to commit to that kind of thing just yet. But my Mom is sick and tired of being sick and tired. She is actually doing better, lots more energy, not aching etc. etc. and is being monitored by a doctor. All of her labs have been good.
I think it all goes back to the fact that some things work for some people that won't work for others--again look at Dr. Mercola's web site referenced above--because the low fat regimen definitely didn't work for her.
By the way, I don't remember exactly what the book said about Kidney stones and gallstones but it did address that issue. If you have a family history of that sort of thing I would be carefull about the Atkin's route because I think that is a bigger indicator (though not always obviously) of whether they will develop or not.
Dec 11, '02Occupation: CNA Joined: Jun '02; Posts: 485; Likes: 15Well, at least your mother is under a doctor's supervision. Baseline, by the same token, I know someone who wound up with a clogged artery becuase of the Atkins diet. Our bodies are so different...it's hard to tell who will benefit and who will suffer ill effecys from this type of diet.
Dec 11, '02Joined: Dec '02; Posts: 145; Likes: 12Atkins Diet: Prevention magazine (the small one at the checkout at the supermarket with lurid weight loss cover and quality info. inside) covers the Atkins diet this month and how to modify its use in order to follow it safely. The current argument is that it's not the safest diet, but it works for many people and that being overweight is more of a health risk than the diet is. Hope this helps.
Dec 11, '02Joined: Oct '02; Posts: 60,390; Likes: 16,596I agree with baseline, whatever works, works. I think as was said earlier heredity must be the factor. I'm still very confused that a low fat diet of 1500 calories and a low carb diet of 1500 calories produces such vastly different results. Then again I also wonder why in Africa there is are cultures that take 15% the calcium that is recommended but don't have osteoporosis. While the four countries with the highest dairy intake (USA being #4) have the highest rates of osteoporsis. Things that make you go hmmmmm....
As as been mentioned the low fat diet people who eat white flour, and fat free chips are just as unhealthy as the bacon and egg folks.
But I do disagree that whole wheat is unhealthy.Last edit by Tweety on Dec 11, '02