Anyone HAVE to wear a cap? - page 5
I have been visiting a facility around here recently where the nurses MUST wear a cap. It is strange. I was told another facility around here also mandates them. I was really taken aback! The... Read More
Dec 17, '02Occupation: Hospice clinical director Joined: May '02; Posts: 2,873; Likes: 26HRHCarol: My great-grandfather was an RN, too!!
Dec 17, '02Joined: May '02; Posts: 827; Likes: 42Haven't worn my cap in years, but it wouldn't bother me to wear it again. The plus to it was the recogition, I think it made it easier for the pts to identify us. I loved my nursing school pin, but I don't wear it, either, I'm so hard on jewerly ,I'm afraid I would lose it.
Dec 17, '02Occupation: RN Joined: Nov '99; Posts: 2,950; Likes: 619Carol,
I was a little sad when I read you stomped on your cap. At the same time I understand where you are comming from and cannot argue with any of it. It is true.
I'm just an old romantic (yes I know sexism is not romantic)
I come from an error when little as little girls the most glamorous and noble thing you could do when you grew up was become a nurse. Why they wrote series of romance novels about nurses.
I loved standing in front of a mirror with a paper nurse cap and dreaming of the day.
Then when I wore an actual cap I still loved the immage in the mirror. I had arrived.
So foregive these old gal sentiments. It is very true things for women were not always good.
I have to agree about the unprofessional dress of today. I am always hearing the comment, "you have new shoes."
No my shoes are not new. Then they ask how I keep them so clean.
Hmm. key word "clean". You think they would figure that out.
I heard a nurse complain that her unit manager required white shoes. This nurse said she thought that dirty white shoes looked tacky so the manager should allow other colors like black or brown.
Hmm again key word "dirty".
Am I the only one who understands that dirt know no color. Am I the only one that understands dirty black or brown shoes are tacky too.
I wanted to say try cleaning your shoes and put a little polish on them. But it was not my conversation. Folks don't seem to know what either of those things are today. Fortunately my school still today gets on students with dirty shoes, laces, and sole edges. Funny the poor students do not know what to do about it!
Shoe laces are washable. You can do it in a tea cup or in a mesh bag in the washing machine.
I scuff my shoes every day with black marks, spill tube feeding on them, etc. Yet every day I come to work with them spotless and looking new.
I do not spend a lot of time on them. Less than the time you spend flossing your teeth, because I do it every day. Usually I Only need 1 to 2 minutes. And if you use a polish dirt, scuffs, etc come off easier. And it protect the leather.
There are great products out there today for shoe care. And they work.
need to be ironed. Yes that is a dirty word and I don't like doing it either. Yes they are supposed to be permanent press. And if you take them out of the dryer etc.
Now take them out of the dryer and hang them right away. Then press just one set and comprare it to the others that you did not press. NOW you see the difference.
Well the difference is noticible to others when you are wearing it without having to do the comparesion test that you just did.
Toons etc are acceptable in peids only.
Even in peids, kids know that grown ups don't dress like that. Try a grown up print. Kids will still respond to you well and probably have more trust in your adult abilities too. Kids do admire adult prints and will tell you they like what you are wearing.
I started wearing whites (tunic with pants, no scrubs) about July. Amaizing the comments from the staff, doctors and patients. All very positive. I still get them. AND I have found a new level of respect from everyone. Yet I am the same person..
We battle hard in this country for "individuality" and rebell against the "dress for sucess" concept. "they should value me for my brains, skills etc not how I look. THE REALITY is we are VISUAL creatures. MEN are even more visual.
How you look, the care you spend on you appearance, the dignity with which you present your visual self does make a statement about how much care you put into things you do, your attention to detail. Who wants a sloppy nurse.
The message is if she is sloppy about her dress how sloppy will she be in my care?
If she doesn't take herself seriously enough to dress like an adult how seriously does she take her job or patient care.
I am not all miss business solom and serious on the job I have fun but I do try to present a professional immage.
I found that whites have led to me being taken seriously and that even though my colored scrubs were 'adult' they did not have the same effect.
I choose tunics that have shape are not sacks. I buy cheap Bobby Brooks pants from walmart for $9. They are twill and there fore heavier and less transparent than uniform pants. So I may pay a little for pretty femine professional tops I make up for it in pants. The most I've had to pay for a top was $23. I get things that are a little luxurious looking, like demask (lots and lots of compliments, this was a special order and was the one I paid $23) a touch of white embrodiery, things with some style, and shape.
Sorry, I've been having to get this off my chest for a long time.
I wash all my uniforms together and never have a problem choosing what to wear. All my pants are the same so they go with every top. I actually am able to keep them cleaner looking and have no stains because white will handle any type of stain treatment and can be bleached to death. When I wore colors I had stains that I could not get out. Sometimes it was because I did not notice them until after they came out of the dryer and the stain was set. Some times the stain remover was not enough and I needed bleach. So now you know the sceret of the nurse you hate because she can wear white and stay clean.Last edit by Agnus on Dec 17, '02
Dec 17, '02Joined: Nov '01; Posts: 1,276; Likes: 5noone will ever take my tinkerbellaway from me! Agnus i see your point, however, i work peds and i can't tell you how many times my scrub top has been used as a distraction during a procedure....."honey look who's on her shirt? Do you remember......" as far as the cap, I wore it to my capping and my graduation, and now it is proudly displayed on my bookshelf.
Dec 17, '02Occupation: RN Joined: Nov '99; Posts: 2,950; Likes: 619As I stated. Peids is the only place these are appropriate.
I remember when we went to colors. It was BECAUSE of peids. It is very appropriate there. Wear your tinker bells in peids by all means. The students are allowed to wear them in peids too. Those little angles need all the comfort cheer they can get.
p.s. you'd be hard pressed to get me to wear a cap today for work.Last edit by Agnus on Dec 17, '02
Dec 17, '02Occupation: RN Joined: Jul '02; Posts: 175; Likes: 1YEEEE HAAAAAAA
You go BARB ! No problem here in keeping cap clean and white. Like I said in previous post " Wear what you want just nurse your brains out!." Just because I wear whites and a cap I would not Wonder if others were operating under archaic practices. Merry Christmas everyone !!!
Mar 13, '03Joined: Mar '03; Posts: 486; Likes: 986I guess I'm the "old biddy" that some of you are talking about. I have been a nurse for nearly 45 years. In my day, the cap was something that you worked hard for and were proud of. I'm still proud of it and wear my cap whenever I work. About twenty years ago, I tried to be "hip" and wore some scrubs to work. I never felt right. I never felt like a nurse, and honestly, patients and families DID treat me differently when I did and did not wear my cap. I dont think we need to have everone wear caps, since they have lost their meaning with many people. My point was to the young generation that we should wear what makes US feel good. For me its a cap and starched whites. For some of my co workers its scrubs. For some its bath robe and bad hair....but I digress
whatever works for you..
As for being a traditionalist, I think the cap goes beyond tradition. Not all tradition is good. I remember all too well having to get out of my chair for the doctor, making his coffee, addressing him as doctor. Well, things have changed!!! Now they get out of their chair for me, bring me coffee and they call me "Mrs H" and I call them by their first name. Don't argue with the grandma in the cap if ya know what good for ya!
Mar 13, '03Joined: Jan '02; Posts: 5,673; Likes: 159Hmm. What about the idea that the cap is part of a uniform that says we're professionals? When I wore whites and cap nobody confused me with ancillary staff, anyways...LOL!
I read quite a few nurse-authored editorials asserting we lost a lot of respect when we came to work in pajamas (scrubs).
Not sure how I feel about this...maybe we should do a poll on it, eh?
I smile when I think back to my cap...we soaked them in thick starch and dried them flat on the bathtub, then folded them ourselves. We held them on with a little haircomb sewed on top and bobby pins in the back. In 1982 they were dubbed 'fomites' and became extinct in my area.
Mar 13, '03Occupation: ER RN Joined: Aug '01; Posts: 5,322; Likes: 1,329Do they make the men wear caps also?
May 20, '03Joined: Dec '02; Posts: 13RESPECT! That's IT! A poll won't tell anything except that alot of people grew up in sweats and jeans and don't know HOW to dress UP.Last edit by Barb(Old Biddy) on May 20, '03
May 20, '03Occupation: Medicare claims review for major insurance company Specialty: 30 year(s) of experience in telemetry, case management ; From: US ; Joined: Oct '02; Posts: 1,176; Likes: 760Not to argue the point. BUT. Whites do not make me look professional. White shows blood, betadine, spilled Dilantin, etc. It is heck to get out and you look like a slob while at work. To me the thought of nurses wearing white is as dumb as requiring auto mechanics to wear white. It WILL get dirty! AND look bad.
I have been a nurse almost twenty years. Don't know where my cap is and don't care. Caps got knocked crooked, crumpled by confused pts and were generally a pain in the butt.
My colored print scrubs are cheerful, don't show stains from everyday work situations and complement my natural complexion as white never will. My sneakers are white clogs, and comfortable. I look and feel clean and comfortable which says a lot more about dignity, professionalism and respect to me any day than blood stained whites and a cap.
If a doc is at the nurse's station and cannot take two seconds to read my tag with the N. at the end of my name and title, then I don't see the need to wear a cap to give him a visual clue.
And yes, I DO know how to dress up when the situation arises, tiara and all if needed. Just don't see how wearing a uniform from sixty years ago is appropriate to my work situation today. Very few professions require their female workers to wear the same clothing that was worn sixty to a hundred years ago, why should nursing be any different. If I had to wear whites and a cap, I'd go to work at Walmart. THERE I could wear my jeans and sweats and no one would tell me I should go back to the good old days.Last edit by KaroSnowQueen on May 20, '03
May 20, '03Joined: Mar '03; Posts: 150http://www.traveltrunk.com/store/nurses6.htm
ooo I wore this ...... I was a candystriper 15 yrs ago in Canada
are they still in use?