Am I Nursey Enough For You?

We nurses are sometimes our own worst enemies. Far too often, lay people demonstrate misunderstanding and disrespect for nurses. Why shouldn't they, when they learned at least some of it from us? Nurses Announcements Archive Article

In the US, the definition of a nurse is a simple one. A registered nurse is a person who has passed the appropriate NCLEX exam and who holds a valid license in his or her state. The same is true for a licensed practical nurse. That's pretty straight forward, isn't it?

As it turns out, the definitions are a bit too straight forward for some, meaning they don't allow the lay public to discern exactly how nursey a particular practitioner might be. This deficiency has inspired some nurses to take it upon themselves to establish various nursiness scales and encourage others to abide by them when evaluating those who may--or may not--be their peers.

For instance, ICU and ED nurses typically outrank med/surg, OB, and psych nurses. Flight nurses and those who work in neuro or cardiac ORs are usually located somewhere near the top of the heap, while others who give vaccinations at community clinics, educate new diabetics, or work in school health rooms come out near the bottom.

The problem with this kind of thinking is that it fosters division and disrespect among people who ought to be linking arms and presenting a united front when non-nurses demonstrate how poorly much of the general public understands the nursing profession--and who belongs in it.

In an age when medical assistants, nursing assistants, med techs, and even office personnel might wrongfully refer to themselves as nurses, we who genuinely have earned the title should insist on truth in labeling. We need to educate consumers and get after those who exploit their confusion. As nursey as these assistive personnel may appear, they have no right to appropriate the title.

Not much to argue about there. But, along with exclusive limitation, truth in labeling has an inclusive aspect as well. And that is not nearly as popular within our ranks.

The initial showdown takes place between hospital nurses and everyone else. Acute care nurses take pride in what they do, and they should, so long as they don't--even mentally--let their workplaces give them an excuse to snub other nurses.

Among the non-hospital nurses, another dust-up occurs between those who provide patient care and those who don't. Do you work with residents, visit people in their homes, give kids their ADHD meds and inhalers? Okay, you're a notch or two down from the hospital folks, but at least you're still a hands-on nurse.

What if you're a case manager, an insurance reviewer, or an IT person? Sorry, you don't seem very nursey at all.

Advanced practice nurses might as well be animals of a different species, along with those involved in upper management or teaching.

And so it goes.

Why do we treat each other this way? How can we blame the public for having a distorted image of nursing when some of us capitalize on this very misinformation--"Why yes, thank you, I am a real nurse because I work in a flashy specialty that would shine on prime time TV--leaving others to feel they have to present their credentials, point out their roots, or argue the importance of their jobs.

Can we admit that some of our colleagues do jobs that lack panache but matter greatly to their patients, clients and residents. Can we acknowledge as our peers those who keep renewing their licenses even though they now operate at a remove from the bedside--the teachers, the managers, the researchers, the volunteers?

Maybe it's time we give the rest of the world a demonstration in how to respect nurses by insisting that every one of us who has passed the test and kept the license current is just as nursey as the rest.

Specializes in Community Health Nurse.

I agree with all of you. I started out as a CNA in 1992 (fresh out of high school). Worked Med/Surg, GeroPsych, Home Health, Float Pool, Onc/Neph, HIV Unit. Then as an LPN in 1996. Worked Med/Surg, Home Health where I was promoted to Clinical Support Coordinator. Then into the doctor's office. Where I worked family practice, then Occupational Health, Then for an interventional cardiologist. It was with the cardiologist that I noticed the big difference. You are right. Everyone treats all cardiology staff like the best greatest thing! I remember an RN coming to work in our office for one of the docs. She said she had finally reached the upper eschelon. We all just laughed. I remembered just how odd that was. When it came down to it - we were just doing what everyone else did- just focusing on a specific body part. I loved all of the jobs I have had and have learned so much from all of them.

I am now an new RN (2009) and I have worked doing med/surg and then community health- a position that went into the community and did various health screening clinics and CPR classes for the public and factories. Now I am a school nurse. It was basically for the hours. I love school nursing and I am still amazed every day about how much nursing skill and critical thinking is used in this job!!! Also- we are left on our own with no back up. We have to make the decisions on our own. ITs almost like a community clinic. I love it. I love the staff and the students.

Nursing is so diverse and so exciting. I think it is so wonderful that we are given so many opportunities and choices. I think its just like how God says that we are all one. Some may be the foot or the hand or the heart.... but we are all one. That works for Nursing as well. Without each specific job- the public is left short changed. The patient is left without complete care. We are all essential and needed and equal. I think we should be lifting each others strengths up instead of tearing each other down. I am sure none of us wants to start talking about weakness' because we all have them. Sometimes we are called to one area of the profession and not another. Its just as simple as that. We are all awesome and shouldn't let anyone tell us any different!!

Just wanted to say we are all on the same team here. I understand why titles get all puffy in the chest, because they worked hard for their degrees/license. That said, I have known CNAs that were better at nursing than some RNs when it came to assessment and advocacy. I have seen nurses save doctors' rear ends in many cases. The difference between these caregivers would have been lack of degree/license, not intelligence or skill. I have tried for years to enter the RN programs in my area and have been told that they only have 50 seats available and hundreds of applicants. So I applied to an LPN program that had over 900 applicants and 40 seats. I was accepted, graduated and licensed. Other caregivers may have their own reasons for not acquiring degrees and licenses. Nursing is in the individual and we are just human beings taking care of human beings. Why can't we cross those barriers to band together and deliver the best care possible? As medical professionals, we care for people in every stage of their lives from birth to death and it is all honorable and all great. Who could say which role is more important? Not I.

Specializes in Psych.

This post made me chuckle. I have been a psych nurse for the past 12 years, low on the nursiness scale. And to make matters worse I am now back in school for healthcare IT and hopefully eventually informatics. WOW..way off of the nursiness scale. I don't give a hoot, I earned my credentials and I did/am doing what I enjoy. Who gives a hoot what other more "nursey" nurses, or the general public for that matter, think?! I do not. I used to love psych. And when I didn't anymore, I chose to go back to school for something else I love. What could be better than doing what you enjoy, despite others' opinions? I have respect for all of us here that have earned our credentials, wherever you work.

I want all of you to know that we are equal as people. Only mentioning licensing and licensing restrictions because they are a fact. We all have gifts. I often see that we don't recognize don't respect each other and we don't act as if we all have gifts. Correct that titles and education may not make you a better nurse. I know lots of nurses way up in the hierarchy that act as if their **** don't stink. I have also seen equally credentialed way up in the hierarchy nurses who are wonderful and remember that it's not about us. It is about the patient.

I also believe we are treated the way we allow others to treat us. Have respect for yourself, show your professionalism and you will be treated better. It may take a while but it will happen. As a nurse I acted professional never allowed people to disrespect me as a person.

I also see nurses looking like slobs. I know the wrapping doesn't make the package, but when I see nurses in dirty scrubs going into work, dirty and stringy hair falling onto patients, long finger nails, bracelets, multiple rings, dirty shoes, etc., I have to wonder if we as nurses have brought some of the disrespect upon ourselves by not looking as professionals. Also we need the patient knows we are nurses. If you are the one caring for a patient, or family, or anyone, let them know what your role will be.

Enough already, I have been an RN for 40 years this year and maybe I have many old ideas. So be it.

Thanks for reading this long post.

Bravo to this article....LPN, RN, NP, when it all said and done, we are all nurses.

We have the freedom to practice in any area of nursing, whether it is at the bedside, clinics, home care etc., and there should be no discrimination, or any reason to devalue our peers.

I like this article. Nurses are like angels. During my gastric band surgery nurses a L.A. bariatrics cared like my mother. Hats of to all the nurses in this world.

Specializes in EMS, ED, Trauma, CEN, CPEN, TCRN.

I am the UberNurse! I live in scrubs 24 hours a day! Heck, 36 hours a day! I was born in scrubs! Fear me! I can put a 14g in a preemie, with my eyes closed and both hands in large gloves!!

Sorry, I am overcaffeinated. :)

Seriously, I have the utmost respect for my counterparts outside of the ER ... they do a job that I probably couldn't. Psych? LTC? L&-freakin-D, are you kidding me? I'd be in trouble. That is why there are so many wonderful nurses out there -- we all have our niches and skill sets, and all are important!!

(And I don't even get to wear scrubs anymore ... I wear my Army uniform in my ER. LOL :D)

Can remember being in a LTC quality assurance meeting years ago. There were several members of upper management along with 3 MD's. The topic turned to how to improve the image of the LTC nurses as the Drs voiced concerned that the local hospital nurses didn't take the LTC nurses seriously or really seem to have much respect for us. The Drs subtly implied that we were doing something wrong

I politely told the one Dr. that when he went back to the hospital later that afternoon he needed to take a specific parking garage elevator down and he would find the answer to that question in the elevator. He gave me a weird look and asked what that could have to do with anything. As I explained I had been to the hospital earlier in the day and had been in that elevator. In very large letters, written on the elevator wall was "Cardiac Nurses suck - ICU nurses rule".

It will be a great day when we all learn to appreciate the other.

right. because everyone thinks a doctor at a LTC is on the same level as a ortho surgeon at a major trauma center.............. ( just thinking about how they seemed to imply that the LTC nurses were doing something wrong). interesting.

Specializes in ED, Education.

Your statement "we are our own worst enemies" says it all! I work in the the ED as a prn staff nurse and see how floor nurses are treated by ed nurses, and inturn how ed nurses are treated by ICU. There is definitely a pecking order. My full time job is prehospital education, and I was a paramedic before I became a nurse; therefore, I had experienced some of the turf wars between nurses and paramedics. I can understand the "wars" between different entities (I do not think they are productive for safe patient care); however, the war between nurses cannot be won and every nurse suffers the consequences.

I think the greatest thing about nursing is the variety of roles there are out there for nurses! We need all of them (us)!

Specializes in L&D.

Good job, I really liked this and glad it's out here for everyone to read & think about. :redpinkhe

Thank you so much for all of the positive responses. I really hoped that most nurses felt this way.