I aM floored. I just received notice from GA Board of Nursing that they denied the endorsement of my MN RN license because I did not meet clinical practice requirements . When I called the board, they transferred me to a their Legal Nurse Consultant who stated that effective July 1, 2008 GA would no longer endorse RN license from Excelsior College students with no previous RN experience. She suggested that I go to my licensed state and work for a while then try again, but she could not give me a time frame.
Has anyone else experienced this. I thought we should at least have gotten some sort of notice/warning before this type of rule be adopted by the board. I am going to file a motion for reconsideration using an Attorney. Before I entered Excelsiors program I called GA Board to verify acceptance. I had been accepted to a traditional LPN to RN bridge program; I could have been almost finished their too. I am so sad right now. I have been crying for two days. I think I will need to see my doctor for Zoloft.
I have been an LPN for over 13 years doing Med/Surg for at least 10. I work on a hospital unit right now. THIS IS SO UNFAIR!!!:banghead:
RN34TX - I realize that the states and universities are a separate issue however they kind of get rolled together for me when it comes to CRNA schools. With my wife's position I would need to apply to programs close to home. In speaking with these programs, especially UT - Chattanooga, where clinicals are held in multiple states I would have a problem if one of the states did not recognize degree. So at first I had the problem of not being able to apply to GA programs because of GA wouldn't except excelsior. Now I would have to worry about the surrounding states (TN, AL, SC, etc...) deciding to jump on this anti-Excelsior bandwagon. If that happens then I have problems with not being able to complete clinical time because the state of the clinical site won't recognize my license.
On a side note, one of my fellow medics just completed his CPNE over at Grady last week. It was quite humbling listening to his story. It is almost enough to scare you away hearing about the process. Although he failed two stations the first day he went on to ace the rest of it. The two he got snagged on were such minor almost subjective things but they don't give an inch on that evaluation.
Good luck to all and again thanks for the feedback.
I see on your profile it shows you being a paramedic for 10 years and a RN for 2 months. How are you able to practice in CA? Did you do all the schooling before they changed the rules or did you find a backdoor into that state?
I was wondering about that too. Is there a loophole (sorry can't think of a better word) as I have many medic friends who would love nothing more than to do Regents--all of which are here in California. I became an RN before the BON started discriminating against Regents/Excelsior graduates.
I see on your profile it shows you being a paramedic for 10 years and a RN for 2 months. How are you able to practice in CA? Did you do all the schooling before they changed the rules or did you find a backdoor into that state?
Hi Friends, I began my education with Excelsior College(EC) in August 2003, the cut off date for being "grandfathered" into California was 12/03. Being "grandfathered" meant that as long as you were enrolled in EC prior to the 12/03 concurrently enrolled in EC without any lapses in enrollment that you would be licensed in California. There were no clinical hours attached to that. I know of no loopholes or short cuts, because believe me the ingenuity of your Paramedic friends would have figured it out. The only thing I can think of is get licensed out of state in Arizona, Colorado, Oregon, or Nevada work a couple of years and then hope California will recognize the out of state Licensure. Or get Licensed out of State and work for the Veterans Hospital there are many through California. I did not expedite getting my RN from EC it took me 5 years to complete the program. I chose to completely pursue my Paramedic career, I loved being a Paramedic, and hope to pick up per diem eventually. I hope that answers your ??. Good luck to all of you!
Specializes in Critical Care, Emergency, Education, Informatics.
Thanks for all the great feedback.
RN34TX - I realize that the states and universities are a separate issue however they kind of get rolled together for me when it comes to CRNA schools. With my wife's position I would need to apply to programs close to home. In speaking with these programs, especially UT - Chattanooga, where clinicals are held in multiple states I would have a problem if one of the states did not recognize degree. So at first I had the problem of not being able to apply to GA programs because of GA wouldn't except excelsior. Now I would have to worry about the surrounding states (TN, AL, SC, etc...) deciding to jump on this anti-Excelsior bandwagon. If that happens then I have problems with not being able to complete clinical time because the state of the clinical site won't recognize my license.
On a side note, one of my fellow medics just completed his CPNE over at Grady last week. It was quite humbling listening to his story. It is almost enough to scare you away hearing about the process. Although he failed two stations the first day he went on to ace the rest of it. The two he got snagged on were such minor almost subjective things but they don't give an inch on that evaluation.
Good luck to all and again thanks for the feedback.
First keep in mind that the BANS aren't total bans. At least here in GA if your a working nurse you can get a licenese here. And you'd have to be a working nurse to even be considered for CRNA school. So all the sates aroudn Chattanooga will give you a license. You may have to jump through hoops.
Isn't California, Virginia, and now I believe Texas total bans? I was under the impression that unless you got in before the deadlines in these states that even as a working nurse you could not get your license in these states with an Excelsior degree. I am pretty sure this was going to be the case for Georgia before we had the legislation pushed through. I know I need to be a working nurse for CRNA school. As I said before I really want to be an ICU nurse due to some excellent experiences I have had in the ICU during paramedic school. The CRNA position is just a future goal that I would like to work towards, again due to excellent experiences I have had working with the CRNA's during my time as a Paramedic.
I may be mistaken but this was my understanding of how all the legislation against Excelsior worked. If I am incorrect I am sorry but that is why I am here in this forum to learn.
Specializes in Critical Care, Emergency, Education, Informatics.
First thing to remember is never take anything you get here on a public forum as law. Always go to the source and find the current facts. CA has a time line, and I'm not sure what it is. TX is work in progress, I already have a TX license. I's funny about Ca because I was one of the CA RNs from the 70's that challenged the boards based on military training.
You have to do your own homework. People here all have an agenda, some pro, some against. Go right to the source and get the facts before you make any decision.
Thanks for the reply. With Georgia trust me I have been neck deep in the legislation from the get go. Since this directly affected my career path I went over every line with a fine tooth comb. With the other states I was just going by what I had read. I have always had a tough time believing that if someone had an ASN from Excelsior, a BSN from another institution and an advanced degree from yet another you could be denied practice rights as an NP or CRNA in California. I get that it is all based on your initial rn program but it just doesn't seem logical in my own head that someone could practice for years and years as an rn and have another state treat them like all that practice never happened. Guess I am just used to the National Registry for paramedics. It allows you to move state to state with very little issues.
I have completed 2 years of nursing program, but i did not graduated due to not passing one course on the last semester of the program. Does anyone know any LPN school in Georgia that can transfer some of my nursing credits. I tried Deklb Tech, but they did not give me any credits for my nursing courses. Please someone help me with this. Since I am in Georgia, I can't attend Excelsior since it is not recognized by GBON. I would appreciate any help or info.
letter from ec for those who didn't know or are keeping up.
april 29, 2009
today, governor perdue signed into law hb 475 which was passed earlier this month by both houses of the georgia general assembly. this bill contains a series of detailed provisions that complicate - but do not eliminate - the licensing process for our students who, upon graduation, wish to practice as rns in georgia.
also, there is one significant bright spot to report. for the first time, the opportunity for licensure by examination is now open to excelsior graduates who were a licensed vocational nurse (lvn) prior to enrollment in our associate degree nursing program and who meet certain other requirements. previously, licensure by endorsement was the only option available in georgia to all of excelsior's graduates.
although the terms of hb 475 became law upon signing by the governor, the board of nursing still needs to develop rules and procedures to put the details into effect, a process that could take months to complete. we have been told by the board that until it issues these rules and procedures, the current process is still in effect.
based upon our reading of the bill as signed into law, we have prepared a chart that summarizes the licensing requirements for our graduates who intend to practice as an rn in georgia. we have provided a copy of this chart to the board for its review and once it informs us that we are accurate in our understanding of the terms, we will publish this as a guide to our students and graduates.
in the meantime, the following are highlights of the new licensing requirements as we understand them, all of which are subject to modification once the board issues the rules and procedures necessary to implement the legislation.
if you were enrolled in our associate degree in nursing program prior to july 1, 2008 and earn your degree by june 30, 2011, you may be eligible to take the nclex-rn examination and be licensed as an rn in georgia under the following conditions:
if you were an lpn prior to enrollment with "at least one year of clinical experience in a health care facility as a licensed practical nurse", you will be eligible to take the nclex-rn and be eligible for licensure.
if you were not an lpn upon enrollment, or were an lpn but did not have "at least one year of clinical experience in a health care facility as a licensed practical nurse." you will be eligible to take the nclex-rn and be eligible for licensure. however, if the board of nursing, in its sole discretion, determines that your nursing education lacked certain elements, it may issue you a six-month temporary permit to practice as an rn while you complete a post-graduation precepted experience of a type and length as determined by the board. upon successful completion of this precepted experience, you may be eligible for full licensure.
again, we have been told by the board that until it issues these rules and procedures, the current process is still in effect.
letter from ec for those who didn't know or are keeping up.
april 29, 2009
today, governor perdue signed into law hb 475 which was passed earlier this month by both houses of the georgia general assembly. this bill contains a series of detailed provisions that complicate - but do not eliminate - the licensing process for our students who, upon graduation, wish to practice as rns in georgia.
also, there is one significant bright spot to report. for the first time, the opportunity for licensure by examination is now open to excelsior graduates who were a licensed vocational nurse (lvn) prior to enrollment in our associate degree nursing program and who meet certain other requirements. previously, licensure by endorsement was the only option available in georgia to all of excelsior's graduates.
although the terms of hb 475 became law upon signing by the governor, the board of nursing still needs to develop rules and procedures to put the details into effect, a process that could take months to complete. we have been told by the board that until it issues these rules and procedures, the current process is still in effect.
based upon our reading of the bill as signed into law, we have prepared a chart that summarizes the licensing requirements for our graduates who intend to practice as an rn in georgia. we have provided a copy of this chart to the board for its review and once it informs us that we are accurate in our understanding of the terms, we will publish this as a guide to our students and graduates.
in the meantime, the following are highlights of the new licensing requirements as we understand them, all of which are subject to modification once the board issues the rules and procedures necessary to implement the legislation.
if you were enrolled in our associate degree in nursing program prior to july 1, 2008 and earn your degree by june 30, 2011, you may be eligible to take the nclex-rn examination and be licensed as an rn in georgia under the following conditions:
if you were an lpn prior to enrollment with "at least one year of clinical experience in a health care facility as a licensed practical nurse", you will be eligible to take the nclex-rn and be eligible for licensure.
if you were not an lpn upon enrollment, or were an lpn but did not have "at least one year of clinical experience in a health care facility as a licensed practical nurse." you will be eligible to take the nclex-rn and be eligible for licensure. however, if the board of nursing, in its sole discretion, determines that your nursing education lacked certain elements, it may issue you a six-month temporary permit to practice as an rn while you complete a post-graduation precepted experience of a type and length as determined by the board. upon successful completion of this precepted experience, you may be eligible for full licensure.
again, we have been told by the board that until it issues these rules and procedures, the current process is still in effect.
what if you haven't enrolled to excelsior by july 1,2008?
. When I called the board, they transferred me to a their Legal Nurse Consultant who stated that effective July 1, 2008 GA would no longer endorse RN license from Excelsior College students with no previous RN experience. She suggested that I go to my licensed state and work for a while then try again, but she could not give me a time frame.
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Is the board meeting this week?