I aM floored. I just received notice from GA Board of Nursing that they denied the endorsement of my MN RN license because I did not meet clinical practice requirements . When I called the board, they transferred me to a their Legal Nurse Consultant who stated that effective July 1, 2008 GA would no longer endorse RN license from Excelsior College students with no previous RN experience. She suggested that I go to my licensed state and work for a while then try again, but she could not give me a time frame.
Has anyone else experienced this. I thought we should at least have gotten some sort of notice/warning before this type of rule be adopted by the board. I am going to file a motion for reconsideration using an Attorney. Before I entered Excelsiors program I called GA Board to verify acceptance. I had been accepted to a traditional LPN to RN bridge program; I could have been almost finished their too. I am so sad right now. I have been crying for two days. I think I will need to see my doctor for Zoloft.
I have been an LPN for over 13 years doing Med/Surg for at least 10. I work on a hospital unit right now. THIS IS SO UNFAIR!!!:banghead:
I think CA knew they would avoid current students organizing and protesting actively against their decision, by grandfathering them in, and by giving ample notice regarding the change. The GABON was not so smart. Of course, CA has a lot of very vocal nurse-activists, so their BON was probably more prepared to address this than GA.
The way CA did it was slick -- they let everyone who had enrolled by that date in 12/2003 finish, no matter if they had just enrolled and would spend 7 years in the program, which means there are potentially going to be EC new grads who can be licensed in Cali until 2010. Virginia did it a bit differently ... May 2008 was when they decided that 12/31/2009 would be the deadline to be completely done. (Good grief, I came *thisclose* to hurling when I was reading the new rule, after I'd passed CPNE, trying to figure out if it applied to me ... ack.) I know EC is trying to negotiate something similar to the California decision, in which EC students could take as long as they needed to finish.
I guess the act of diminishing enrollment in a state probably leads to less of an outcry; cutting students off at the knees surely does not!
when Representative Sharon Cooper, the author of the House Bill 1041, was interviewed, as we excelsior students know, she was all wrong about EC. It seem she is very under educated and very much ill informed about Excelsior college school of nursing, requirements for being admitted. Sharon Cooper seems to think 17 year olds straight out of high school, can go through our program. SO WRONG.! this leads me to believe the she has done no research what so ever, before she decided to introduce this bill, or should I say use this bill to exclude EC student from getting licensure in GA. Directly after she made this false accusation, the Vice President of EC spoke, and refuted her statement with the facts. Sharon Cooper then, went on to say, she still would not reconsider, because of patient safety, again I don't believe she has any facts to back this accusation up, that EC grads or more of safety risk then other ADN grads from traditional nursing schools. I am infuriated at the fact that, this exclusion she has imposed on EC students and grads, is based on pure Falsities. WE NEED TO MARCH AT THE GA CAPITAL BUILDING! WE NEED TO STAGE A PROTEST! Pickets and all. Please lets unite and come together, its magic in numbers. The more the better. Lets let them know we will not endure these false accusations and we not not keep being insulted, by being called DANGEROUS NURSES!!!! OH NO THIS CAN'T GO!!! OH NO THIS CAN'T GO!!! OH NO THIS CANT GO!!!
My fellow EC students, New grads, and Alumni, I am reaching out to you for your help. Lest make this a reality! Lets stage a peaceful protest. It's not about Excelsior, its about us, its about our futures, its about our children's futures. Hell, its about the sick, who will ultimately suffer, because of lack of nurses, and its about the nurse, who will suffer from being over worked!!!!!!!! OH NO THIS CAN'T GO!!! OH NO THIS CANT GO!!!!
If we get the recommend 400 hrs of clinical will this made a difference, or is this all by design. Because Did YOU KNOW there is currently a bill awaiting approval from Congress that Georgia and other states have requested additional work Visa's to be approved so nurses can be brought from other countries to work in our state, Congressional bill-HR5924.
I mean really I would hope this is not some kind of plot.
Zoey right now there is nothing in place to allow us to get the "required" clinical time and without it being school sanctioned I don't see how GABON will ever let that fly.
Zoey right now there is nothing in place to allow us to get the "required" clinical time and without it being school sanctioned I don't see how GABON will ever let that fly.
These are some of the other state requirements, for clinical's, as far as Excelsior students and grads go:
Colorado
Colorado ASN Graduates sitting for boards: Anyone registered before January 1, 2006 will be grandfathered in with no changes to them as long as they keep their registration with Excelsior active by paying the applicable maintenance fee each year. Those who complete an Associate Degree and are not LPNs will need 750 additional clinical hours. Those who complete an Associate Degree and are LPNs will need 350 additional clinical hours. The state of CO is currently working on a plan to make those additional clinical hours available. (9/2005)
Kentucky
This board is requiring that all graduates of all nursing schools do a 120 hour preceptorship upon completion of the nursing program.
Oklahoma
For initial licensure, students are required to pass two 30-hour precepted experiences in Psych and OB administered by Excelsior College before graduation.
Vermont
Vermont Residents and Excelsior College: You will need to take your state boards outside the state of Vermont and work 480 clinical hours (roughly 12 weeks) before you can transfer your RN licensure into the state of Vermont. (11/2006)
Washington
Only LPNs with 200 hour precepted experience set up through a Washington Nursing Commission approved facility may apply for examination. Graduates who were originally LPNs may endorse in with minimum 200 hours RN experience. All non-LPN graduates with RN experience may be denied endorsement and will have to appeal any denial.
Yes, just like excelsior employs nurse's , instructors or what have you, to precept and or grade us during the cpne, they are going to have to provide us with some assistance in this matter. Also EC works closely with tne Georgia Nurses Association, located right in atlanta. The GNA, heads the SOUTHERN PERFORMANCE ASSESSMENT CENTER, SPAC offers each of these examinations for EC, to qualified students, utilizing a pool of qualified Nursing Faculty as Clinical Associates and Clinical Examiners. Clinical test sites include Southern Regional Medical Center, Gwinnett Medical Center, Grady Memorial Hospital, and Memorial Health University Medical Center in Savannah. So, i'm sure if EC and the GNA are really fighting this battle for us, and with us, something can be worked out. I have personally spoke with EC on this matter, and they told me they were working on negotiations, the counselor said she could not give the details of the negotiations at that time. Like has been stated over and over again, there are currently 1100 ec students here in GA, EC should not want to lose that money. I don't have a problem with them charging an extra fee for these clinical, I know some will, But if you really want this we have to do what needs to be done, and so does EC!
Zoe, I am ready to protest this whole thing, I was hoping there will be enough folks in Macon next month so we can picket or do whatever it takes for these boneheads to hear our voice!!!
Zoe, I am ready to protest this whole thing, I was hoping there will be enough folks in Macon next month so we can picket or do whatever it takes for these boneheads to hear our voice!!!
I am going to call EC and the GNA in the morning, I want to hear what they have to say about a protest.
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Why is that a requirement for everyone in KY? Is there a reason it was implemented?
Probably because new grads were getting screwed on their preceptorships, after entering the workforce. This requirement assures that all new grads get at least 120 hrs of training, before they're thrown to the wolves. Having seen this happen to new grads all the time, that's just my professional guess-timation, though.
What we need to do is find someone to run against Mrs. Cooper in the next Election. If all the EC students and all the EC grads votes against her then she might just need to find a new job. Kind of like us right now. She is on a power trip and maybe needs some more clinical experience herself.
. When I called the board, they transferred me to a their Legal Nurse Consultant who stated that effective July 1, 2008 GA would no longer endorse RN license from Excelsior College students with no previous RN experience. She suggested that I go to my licensed state and work for a while then try again, but she could not give me a time frame.
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The way CA did it was slick -- they let everyone who had enrolled by that date in 12/2003 finish, no matter if they had just enrolled and would spend 7 years in the program, which means there are potentially going to be EC new grads who can be licensed in Cali until 2010. Virginia did it a bit differently ... May 2008 was when they decided that 12/31/2009 would be the deadline to be completely done. (Good grief, I came *thisclose* to hurling when I was reading the new rule, after I'd passed CPNE, trying to figure out if it applied to me ... ack.) I know EC is trying to negotiate something similar to the California decision, in which EC students could take as long as they needed to finish.
I guess the act of diminishing enrollment in a state probably leads to less of an outcry; cutting students off at the knees surely does not!