Florida IPN

Elisant · Apr 15, 2020

This is a nightmare. So, it looks like I could be paying $200-250 a month to be in the program on top of the high fine I have to pay within three years to the doh?

Elisant · Apr 15, 2020

Also... let’s say I complete the recommended treatment program... then they create the contract for me to sign and that is when I see what restrictions they place on me? How long after I complete the treatment does the contract get created and I am able to get back to work?

catsmeow1972, BSN, RN · Apr 15, 2020

3 minutes ago, Elisant said:
Also... let’s say I complete the recommended treatment program... then they create the contract for me to sign and that is when I see what restrictions they place on me? How long after I complete the treatment does the contract get created and I am able to get back to work?

That I am not sure. I suppose it depends on how fast they are moving. I think wherever you go for the treatment has to submit their ‘recommendations’ (like don’t expect it to be for anything other than a contract, I mean really?)

I found they are much quicker at dropping the hammer on someone when a perceived wrong is done and they get to threaten/yell/otherwise be nasty then when you need an answer to a question or something reasonable done. Whenever you get into this, everything will need to be done through a website called Affinity, from checking in to corresponding with them to submitting reports. I would suggest keeping a copy of EVERY bit of correspondence, screen shot every pee test result, go to LabCorp for testing (you’ll also avoid additional ‘collection fees’ too), follow up every phone call to your case manager with an email reviewing what you discussed. Know every word of your contract and that participant manual and do not be afraid to cite it if necessary. They tend to play fast and loose with their end while you are expected to toe the line precisely. Advocate for yourself, because they will not.

rn1965, ADN · Apr 15, 2020

1 hour ago, Elisant said:
I heard we have to pay for weekly meetings? How much is that? Also do they put overtime restrictions on your license and for how long?

I am in TX and IF there were a nurse support group near me and I was required, then, yes, I would be charged.

As far as OT goes, it is a restriction for me the entire contract. That is assuming I can even find a job. My OT is generous, I can have 16 hours OT per 2 weeks pay period.

wvnurse2020 · Apr 15, 2020

6 hours ago, catsmeow1972 said:
About a year before I was done, we all got notified that you may notice an increase in testing as it is a valuable tool in your recovery.” Whatever the heck that meant. I believe that it translated to their profits were down and they needed some means of screwing people for more money. What happened is that instead of the standard twice a month $55 pee tests (which is what it was assuming no dilutes, missed check ins or other things that could garner their attention) about every 3rd month you got an additional 3rd selection of blood testing that I think was PETH to the tune of $109. Basically, for no reason they added across the board PETH testing, even for people who were not there for drugs or alcohol. Curious that they added a test that has very questionable reliability and who’s results are not supposed to be used in isolation for discipline....and yet, they do.....

109 for one test?! That's ridiculous. Ours hasn't started that yet thankfully.

cmbal1054 · Apr 18, 2020

catsmeow1972, question. what state are you in. I've never heard of Labpro. I HAVE to use "First Source" here in michigan. the program only gave me two places to go to provide my drug tests and there is a $25 collectors fee each time and then the lab itself charges my debit card their fee. I see I will need a second job just to pay for lab and group meetings. damn.. I heard this was a very expensive program. but, as they keep reminding me, "its for the safety of the public". such crap. one comment on here stated her group was 500$ an hour and the Dr. was an ***. wth? how is this really suppose to help anyone. I wish I didn't need to work or didn't need the income and insurance from a nursing position. I have been rather enjoying riding this intake process out doing mindless, simple, yet rewarding in its own way, work. AND, I have absolutely never been thanked more or treated with more respect working as a housekeeper in a run down motel and a receptionist/do everything to keep the hair dressers free to cut at a hair salon, ever. I need a money tree

catsmeow1972, BSN, RN · Apr 19, 2020

The thread is Florida IPN....that’s should be a dead giveaway on the state...just sayin’.
LabCorp is one of the big pee testing companies. Y’know ‘outpatient lab on every corner’. Kinda like Quest affairs. Prominent down here in the sunny Florida-duh. The monitoring is out sourced to a 3rd party company that is registered as a for-profit entity in the state. They have some kind of contract with LabCorp in that you supposedly don’t have to make appointments and are not charged additional collection fees over and above the usual $55 that a pee test costs. I think they charge for blood though. You have to keep money on an account with Affinity. That’s kind of like Recovery Trek, which I think is used in other states. In my time, I simply deposited money at the time I was snagged for a test. I certainly was not going to let them keep money or my credit card info on file. I didn’t trust anyone connected with any of this garbage any further than I could kick them.

Hope that all answers your questions without too much snark. I just can’t help having an attitude about this, y’know.

cmbal1054 · May 11, 2020

thank you catsmeow1972. urine is 60 plus pay a 25$ collectors fee at the time of the collection. ya, I too got a prepaid card for this purpose. man, I have not seen one positive comment in regards to program . so far I see cookie cutter contracts and lots of $$ going out the wallet. ha, if there was any to start. has anyone ever heard of or know of anyone that was getting a "scholarship" to cover HPRP expenses in order to maintain a contract?

wvnurse2020 · May 11, 2020

22 minutes ago, cmbal1054 said:
thank you catsmeow1972. urine is 60 plus pay a 25$ collectors fee at the time of the collection. ya, I too got a prepaid card for this purpose. man, I have not seen one positive comment in regards to program . so far I see cookie cutter contracts and lots of $$ going out the wallet. ha, if there was any to start. has anyone ever heard of or know of anyone that was getting a "Scholarship" to cover HPRP expenses in order to maintain a contract?

you haven't had any of the 100 dollar tests like hair or blood though? that's what becomes unaffordable ontop of the regular costs

catsmeow1972, BSN, RN · May 13, 2020

Heh, Scholarship, that’s a pipe dream. I don’t mean to chuckle, but it’s a very sad reality that there are people drummed out of these things and their previous ‘confidential’ sins made public for no other reason than they had to drop out of the program because they could not afford the associated testing costs or the supposedly necessary treatment. I have an acquaintance that spent considerable time forcibly unemployed because she could not marshal the costs for yet another ‘evaluation’ by their ‘approved evaluators.’
There seems to be a massive disconnect between ‘we are going to suck you dry for money for testing and groups and treatment (that may or may not even be necessary)’ while at the same time strip you of the ability to earn money to pay for all of that. They don’t seem to get that. Or they do and don’t care. I’m voting for the latter.

jerryo4277 · May 20, 2020

Do not even speak to these people without a lawyer. The Florida IPN is a joke. It’s a legal money making scheme and completely worthless. They won’t leave u alone until they take everything you have while dangling the carrot of your license in front of you.