Don't ever forget that you were once a new nurse!! - page 2
please, don't ever treat a new nurse like the nurse that was supposed to be orienting me treated me on my first day yesterday. i just started my first job since graduation, and all the clinical... Read More
Nov 1, '07Occupation: What????!!! Specialty: Jack of all trades, and still learning ; Joined: Dec '03; Posts: 1,376; Likes: 584Is there a way you can pre-empt her by setting up a 'mediation' session between you, her and your senior? Thus she has to raise her 'concerns' and you can raise yours. Then she can suggest ways to solve them. That way you have a record of you trying to be a good nurse, and you have put her on the spot by making her set goals, in front of her manager.
Nov 2, '07Occupation: neuro/ortho Specialty: physician office, ortho/neuro ; Joined: Dec '06; Posts: 44; Likes: 9I totally agree with you. I understand that being a preceptor is difficult and time consuming. However, remember that there is a nurse shortage going on. Research has shown that as many as 50% of new nurses leave their first job with the majority citing lack of orientation and bad preceptorship. The nursing shortage is not going to get any better if experienced nurses don't take accountabilty for helping new graduates/nurses out. Why is it that some nurses still rely on the sink or swim method of training?
Nov 8, '07Occupation: ID RN Specialty: 4 year(s) of experience in Developmental Disabilities ; From: US ; Joined: Aug '05; Posts: 36; Likes: 7There is a girl at my work who totally reminds me of this nurse! She is SO MEAN to new people...and anyone she deems "lower" than her, kisses management's booty, has gotten written up for "attitude problems." I have dealt with lots of people in my life and find it best just to avoid her.
Why do people have to act like that?! My philosophy is...if you don't like someone at work, be professional and polite and go home...you don't have to treat someone like dirt! As new grads we are already stressed out enough already, these people just make it worse!
Nov 10, '07Occupation: Clinical Nurse Specialty: 6 year(s) of experience in Operating Room Nursing ; From: AU ; Joined: Oct '07; Posts: 1,390; Likes: 2,128missdeevah-I think that you need to document and date all these incidents with her. If things get worse and you wind up in the managers office it's handy to have some sort of record.
I think you may need to speak with her first before going to management. You might want to ask her if she has any issues at all she wants to speak with you about. I did some conflict management stuff at work and they advised when you confront someone never say 'you do this, or you do that'. Your meant to say that I feel that theres a problem here, can we talk about it?
Nov 10, '07Joined: Oct '07; Posts: 225; Likes: 434Quote from RainDreamerI don't know why they would assign you to someone that was "just getting back from suspension". Did you confront her about it? Or just going based on what your friend is saying?
I'm not trying to defend what she did, the way she acted wasn't professional and no one should have to put up with it. But it sounds like this hospital isn't very organized in how they assign preceptors (because of the fact that she didn't know you were a new grad ..... and for the fact that they assigned you someone that supposedly was just suspended).
One thing to remember, not all people like precepting new people. And they shouldn't be forced to. Again, I'm not condoning her behavior .... she could have at least tried acting friendly and helpful. But if these people are just given an orientee and they don't want one, then it's not going to be a good experience for either person.
So now the thing to do is to go directly to the manager/educator, tell them you don't ever want to be paired with this particular nurse again (don't have to go into specifics, just that it's not working out, your learning styles aren't working together, etc) and would like to be with someone else so you can get the most out of the few days you have left.
Another thing, if by the end of your orientation time you feel like you need an extra day or two, ask for it. If it's truly a good place to work, then they'll work something out with you.
Good luck to you!
Why not go into specifics? At least just state the facts? Why the coy "not working out" stuff? Can we NEVER be up front with management?
I really want to know, not just being a wisea**
Jun 1, '08Joined: May '08; Posts: 33; Likes: 7Quote from missdeevahcompletely agree with you. nobody should be treated that way and to act that way in preceptor role is beyond words. no, that nurse should have not been assigned to anyone at all. that nurse herself should have been monitored for a while for her behavior. a preceptor should be someone pleasant, professional, and willing to teach the routine, policies and others. i am always willing to help a new face on the unit, whether it is a student, new grad, new hire or a nursed pulled to that unit for a shift. i remember my orientation phase and i feel like as i was not oriented the way i should have been.well, i'm not so sure what she was or was not told. i do know that she was aware that she was supposed to orient me. even if i was not a new grad, there was no reason for her to treat me like she did. no one should be treated like that, eve if you don't like them, at least show some common courtesy. but, like my friend pointed out to me...why did they even assign me to be oriented by someone who was just getting back from suspension r/t her attitude?
Jun 2, '08Occupation: Labor and Delivery RN Specialty: LDRP ; Joined: May '02; Posts: 1,595; Likes: 201I'm sorry you are getting pooped on!!
Not only will I never forget being a student or new nurse, I am already actively helping the students and new nurses I encounter in my job.
Let's try to make the nursing field a more positive place to work!
Jun 2, '08Joined: Apr '07; Posts: 1,032; Likes: 2,208I had one sort of like that when first started on our floor. As time went on, I realized she was taking students so she could lighten her own load for day. It went like this: you the student did everything while she sat at the nursing station and joked all day long. If you came to her with a question, you'd also get the "sneer," or the look like "why are you bothering me?"
I literally had staff nurses whispering to me behind her back while I was on the floor to get another preceptor. And within a month, I did. My own orientation has had to be extended her by a week or so because the first month was such a waste.
Lo and behold, though, management keeps handing off new grads to this nurse. I have no idea why. Everyone willl mention with this quizzical look like "why is this lady so rude? She won't answer any of my questions ...all I want to do is learn, etc, etc. "
But I figure if the hospital wants to charge me such an exhorbitant amount for my orientation if I leave, they'd better darn well give me a decent preceptor. I demanded the best ones and I complain now if I get someone that rubs me the wrong way. I'm sorry -- but I'm being "charged" for this orientation in a way. I have to pay it back if it's bad and I'll also pay for it in terms of being incompetent if it's inadequate.
I have no idea why mangement keeps putting new nurses with oddball preceptors. Makes no sense. Even THEY know this woman does this to every new grad ...but they keep doing it!