What do you think is better for new nurses? Is it better to do 5 8 hr shifts or 3 12 hr shifts? Is it easier to learn on nights or days?
I kind of want to do 5 8 hour shifts that way I am going everyday vs 3 days and then going a few days without plus I don't think it would be as exhausting. I personally like days but I would imagine nights might be easier for a new grad. What are your thoughts?
Sep 5, '12
Im really curious about this too. I am a nurse tech and I work Sat/Sun 645p-7a and it's exhausting by the time I am done with it. Anytime I've worked 4 days in a row....super exhausting. It seems like nights are more relaxed(and weekends too) b/c the docs aren't around as much(depends what floor you work) so days may be good time to get used to dealing with the docs, listening to the docs discuss the condition, etc.
Sep 5, '12
I personally don't like 5 8 hr shifts. I don't like getting up early every morning 5 days in a row. Plus if you need to get personal stuff done during the week you have to take PTO. However, the upside is we get holidays off. Honestly though, I would rather work 3 12's. I enjoy having extra days off. But everyone is different. I know that nurse's with children like the 5 days because it works out better for their schedule and they have off on weekends with their children.
Sep 5, '12
I think it depends on the persons pleasure. I would prefer to have 3 12's on midnights. If I come in at 11 I can put the kids in bed and go to work. Then by the time I get off they will still be sleep. When I come home, I can wake them up for school. They will never even know I'm gone:-)
Sep 5, '12
I would much rather work 3 12s. And those 5 8s are not necessarily Monday to Friday, so the weekends off argument isn't always (or even usually) valid. Plus you may not get a 7-3 shift. Lots of new nurses are put on 3-11. For me that would be the worst shift of all.
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Sep 5, '12
3-11 is such a garbage shift. Honestly if your gonna F up my day by making me come in at 3 you might as well make it 11a and get the punishment over in 3 days so I can actually have 4 useful full days to myself.
Sep 5, '12
I started out as a new grad doing 2 8s and 2 12s, night shift. I hated it...partly because my body doesn't do well on nightshift, and partly because of the environment. I don't know that it's 'easier' on nights (and that is coming from someone who has worked both, and is currently working both). People 'sundown' on nights, people crash on nights, and there is not as much backup. You can make the argument that you'll get really good at figuring out what's worth calling the doc for and what isn't, and you will, but whether night shift is for you is your call alone to make. Personally, I would not do 5 8-hour nights unless my life depended on it, but that's just me. Right now I am weekend option and rotate between a weekend of nights and a weekend of days. That seems to be working pretty well.
One thing I would recommend is, whatever shift you decide upon, make sure you orient to the other shift as well. That way you know what 'the other side' has to deal with. That way you know why someone didn't call about a minor issue at 0300, or why someone's discharge education didn't get completed because day shift got slammed with admits.
Sep 6, '12
i love 12 hour shift. ;D too bad in the institution where i am working they changed it to 8hour shift. No more 2-3 consecutive day off for us
Sep 6, '12
You're probably best to work 12's, if you have the option. Eight hour shifts result in less time off to recover and have a life.
Sep 6, '12
I will quit before I work 8s ever again. I like having more time off than I do time at work.
Sep 6, '12
I think just about everyone will have different opinions. I like my 3 12 hr shifts on nights. I used to work 8 hr days which I HATED because out of 9 days i would only have 1 day off b/c we had to work every other weekend. It was awful. I was more tired then than the 12 hrs I work now.
Sep 6, '12
As far as learning as a new nurse, I would vote for days. They are more heavily staffed. Both nurses and CNAs. There is more ancillary staff. On any given day the above makes more time for learning. While I don't like working with MDs, new nurses would get to see them, and gauge their personalities better than over the phone at night.
My facility tends to orient the new nurses on the shifts they will be working, which means mostly nights. We almost never have the extra staff to truly give the attention a new nurse deserves. Some nights it's simply a matter of grabbing the new nurse and saying "follow me" with no orientation possible.
Orientation/learning, I'd vote for day shift.
Working? Three twelve hr night shifts a week. YaY!
Sep 6, '12
I think 3 12's on nights is easier to learn than on the busy day shift. I have so many friends who have told me that they felt overwhelmed and run ragged working 5 days a week in the beginning. You are usually behind and working over your shift in the beginning anyway. I think that it is best to get a break to unwind and do something besides work for more than a few hours a week.
Sep 5, '12Occupation: L&D RN Specialty: 2 year(s) of experience in L&D ; From: US ; Joined: Mar '12; Posts: 962; Likes: 605Im really curious about this too. I am a nurse tech and I work Sat/Sun 645p-7a and it's exhausting by the time I am done with it. Anytime I've worked 4 days in a row....super exhausting. It seems like nights are more relaxed(and weekends too) b/c the docs aren't around as much(depends what floor you work) so days may be good time to get used to dealing with the docs, listening to the docs discuss the condition, etc.
Sep 5, '12Occupation: RN Specialty: 4 year(s) of experience in oncology, med/surg, ortho ; From: US ; Joined: Aug '09; Posts: 78; Likes: 25I personally don't like 5 8 hr shifts. I don't like getting up early every morning 5 days in a row. Plus if you need to get personal stuff done during the week you have to take PTO. However, the upside is we get holidays off. Honestly though, I would rather work 3 12's. I enjoy having extra days off. But everyone is different. I know that nurse's with children like the 5 days because it works out better for their schedule and they have off on weekends with their children.
Sep 5, '12Occupation: care manager Specialty: cna ; From: US ; Joined: Apr '10; Posts: 29; Likes: 13I think it depends on the persons pleasure. I would prefer to have 3 12's on midnights. If I come in at 11 I can put the kids in bed and go to work. Then by the time I get off they will still be sleep. When I come home, I can wake them up for school. They will never even know I'm gone:-)
Sep 5, '12Occupation: RN/Paramedic Specialty: ER/ICU ; From: US ; Joined: Jul '12; Posts: 102; Likes: 31I would much rather work 3 12s. And those 5 8s are not necessarily Monday to Friday, so the weekends off argument isn't always (or even usually) valid. Plus you may not get a 7-3 shift. Lots of new nurses are put on 3-11. For me that would be the worst shift of all.
Sep 5, '12Specialty: 7 year(s) of experience in High Acuity / Emergency / Trauma ; From: US ; Joined: Jul '09; Posts: 119; Likes: 1383-11 is such a garbage shift. Honestly if your gonna F up my day by making me come in at 3 you might as well make it 11a and get the punishment over in 3 days so I can actually have 4 useful full days to myself.
Sep 5, '12Joined: Nov '06; Posts: 20,715; Likes: 23,954I started out as a new grad doing 2 8s and 2 12s, night shift. I hated it...partly because my body doesn't do well on nightshift, and partly because of the environment. I don't know that it's 'easier' on nights (and that is coming from someone who has worked both, and is currently working both). People 'sundown' on nights, people crash on nights, and there is not as much backup. You can make the argument that you'll get really good at figuring out what's worth calling the doc for and what isn't, and you will, but whether night shift is for you is your call alone to make. Personally, I would not do 5 8-hour nights unless my life depended on it, but that's just me. Right now I am weekend option and rotate between a weekend of nights and a weekend of days. That seems to be working pretty well.
Sep 6, '12Joined: Sep '12; Posts: 10i love 12 hour shift. ;D too bad in the institution where i am working they changed it to 8hour shift. No more 2-3 consecutive day off for us
Sep 6, '12Specialty: geriatrics ; From: US ; Joined: Jul '10; Posts: 5,489; Likes: 11,538You're probably best to work 12's, if you have the option. Eight hour shifts result in less time off to recover and have a life.
Sep 6, '12Joined: Dec '08; Posts: 3,574; Likes: 10,076I will quit before I work 8s ever again. I like having more time off than I do time at work.
Sep 6, '12Occupation: RN Specialty: 8 year(s) of experience ; From: US ; Joined: Nov '10; Posts: 414; Likes: 571I think just about everyone will have different opinions. I like my 3 12 hr shifts on nights. I used to work 8 hr days which I HATED because out of 9 days i would only have 1 day off b/c we had to work every other weekend. It was awful. I was more tired then than the 12 hrs I work now.
Sep 6, '12Occupation: RN Specialty: 16 year(s) of experience in LTC Rehab Med/Surg ; From: US ; Joined: Dec '09; Posts: 2,903; Likes: 9,240As far as learning as a new nurse, I would vote for days. They are more heavily staffed. Both nurses and CNAs. There is more ancillary staff. On any given day the above makes more time for learning. While I don't like working with MDs, new nurses would get to see them, and gauge their personalities better than over the phone at night.
Sep 6, '12Occupation: RN Pediatrics Specialty: Cardiac Care ; From: US ; Joined: Feb '08; Posts: 1,190; Likes: 517I think 3 12's on nights is easier to learn than on the busy day shift. I have so many friends who have told me that they felt overwhelmed and run ragged working 5 days a week in the beginning. You are usually behind and working over your shift in the beginning anyway. I think that it is best to get a break to unwind and do something besides work for more than a few hours a week.
