Published Jul 23, 2007
Hoss
181 Posts
(It is interesting to note the comment about 400 Nursing Schools have 630,000 students enrolled in the Philippines....are we in danger of ruining the quality and good reputation of Filipino nursing education?)
10,000 Pinoy nurses sought US jobs in the last six months
INQUIRER.net
Last updated 01:45pm (Mla time) 07/20/2007
Almost 10,000 Filipino nurses sought employment in the United States from January to June this year, the Trade Union Congress of the Philippines (TUCP) revealed Thursday.
TUCP spokesperson Alex Aguilar said a total of 9,944 Philippine-educated nurses sought jobs in America by taking for the first time the NCLEX administered by the US National Council of State Boards of Nursing Inc. (NCSBN) in the half year to June 30.
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suzanne4, RN
26,410 Posts
630,000 currently in nursing school there. And where do they all plan to work? I hope it is not the US.............
And this also now has something to do with the changes in clinical training in PI. Many more students than patients.
fruity
275 Posts
A lot of parents tell their children in the PI to take up nursing.... the only reason for this is they tell their kids that the course is "in-demand".... And so these innocent students took up nursing not knowing that after they graduate, there are so much more to it than the whole course itself.... If these students knew what they'll be heading for...I doubt they'd still choose nursing. don't get me wrong, i love my profession. But even if you love the profession so much.... This "love for nursing" in the PI will not put food on the table.
And that is truly not the case. Many are now second coursers that are only going into nursing to get a fast green card for the US. And they are not all going to get what they wanted. Second coursers are not finding it as easy to find positions here. And many emplloyers suspect that they will bolt as soon as they get their green card, and they are correct.
When you suddenly see judges, attorneys, CPAs, engineers going into nursing, as well as dentists and physicians; you cannnot tell me that they all plan to stay as nurses and really wanted to do nursing in the first place. Coming over to the US on a tourist visa with the idea of taking cuts in front of everyone else is also going to be much harder for them to do. It is called dual intent and grounds for getting denied. And that is going to happen now. Many are getting quite upset with what has been happening when they have done things the correct way, and proper way.
Again, what was done last year is done and past. Any that are now wishing to come over and attempt to go thru AOS via the tourist visa; the US has been under a retrogression for almost a year. And why they think that they are special and do not have to wait worries me about what they will be like when they start to work as well. Not a good thing at all either.
rkm
76 Posts
(It is interesting to note the comment about 400 Nursing Schools have 630,000 students enrolled in the Philippines....are we in danger of ruining the quality and good reputation of Filipino nursing education?)10,000 Pinoy nurses sought US jobs in the last six months INQUIRER.net Last updated 01:45pm (Mla time) 07/20/2007 Almost 10,000 Filipino nurses sought employment in the United States from January to June this year, the Trade Union Congress of the Philippines (TUCP) revealed Thursday. TUCP spokesperson Alex Aguilar said a total of 9,944 Philippine-educated nurses sought jobs in America by taking for the first time the NCLEX administered by the US National Council of State Boards of Nursing Inc. (NCSBN) in the half year to June 30.continue story at: http://globalnation.inquirer.net/news/news/view_article.php?article_id=77785
This situation is truly becoming ridiculously horrible. And it's true, plenty of non-medical and non-nursing second courser graduates are only after the greencard and would ditch their jobs given the chance when they finally land in the USA (that's a very big IF).
yetski
28 Posts
630,000 currently in nursing school there. And where do they all plan to work? I hope it is not the US.............And this also now has something to do with the changes in clinical training in PI. Many more students than patients.
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In my honest opinion, the 630,000 will not go to the US all at the same time. Many factors will come into play: whether or not they will graduate, whether or not they will be able to take the local board exams, whether or not they will submit applications for work abroad, etc.
In addition, I have noticed that the different fees and expenses are a bit prohibitive, if not expensive. Thus, even though I wish the best for all of us applying for work abroad, I try to be realistic. Only most, if not all, of the 630,000 might be able to work abroad. Just my .02 cents.
YAJRN
124 Posts
I also thought about it. It's very impossible for all of that kind of number may be able to go to states. Some might no longer pursue because of burnt out, others won't be able to pass even English tests, some may wanted to be a plain wifey, some oblige to stay here for good because of economic boom, some can't even afford to pay NCLEX exams, some might be very afraid to gamble to take the exams, some might go to other places, and etc. SO IT IS NOT ALARMING AT ALL IF THAT KIND OF NUMBERS ARE GOING TO BE EXACTLY NURSES IN FIGURES. I THINK NOT ALL.
Please think or ponder even more, do more readings before posting alarming threads. Yes it is a fact because it is from a credible source but please read and analyze well. Facts also contain errors!
RNGrad2006
450 Posts
Does anyone in the Philippines know what the attrition rate is for nursing school there. I am just curious after reading the posts in this thread. I attended school in the US and our school has a high standard (ADN) and the nurses who actually graduated did very well as new grads and are highly sought after, but the attrition rate is horrible with more than 50% of the original class not making it through the program. Many want to go into nursing but not everyone is cut out for it. It is both a demanding and rewarding career.
And notice if you read it closely, that is just the number that have taken the NCLEX exam in the past six months. Taking the NCLEX exam and applying for a job and getting a job offer are very different things.
The number out of that 10,000 that actually passed the NCLEX exam the first time is definitely not that amount; and then add in the ones that actually have petitions in processing, and it goes down further.
And the number that will actually work as nurses, there are many included in those numbers that only wish for an instant green card and have no desire to be an RN in the first place. They need not come to the US. They will be looking over their shoulders for ever and ever.
My concerns center around the simple fact that 400 schools claim to teach "Nursing" when it is obvious that only 50 or so colleges achieve a 50% or better NLE passing rate! That indicates to me that 350 colleges /schools are churning out poorly educated and poorly equipped graduates who CANNOT pass basic licensure exams upon graduation.
The QUALITY of nursing education is falling dramatically in the quest for quantity over qualified and prepared graduates. It is obvious that at 50,000php / semester tuition for 3rd and 4th and now 5th year students, that MONEY is a huge factor in opening up these schools. New students do not screen the colleges they attend carefully enough to see if their hard earned money is getting them a quality education.
I applaud the consistent high performance of UP Manila, St. Thomas, SLU, Univ of Cordilleras, Cebu Drs. and other top 20 colleges
who year after year graduate competent and career minded nurses who can pass the NLE and NCLEX on the first sitting. As for those others, and shamefully many are no better than diploma mills, then I say shame on those schools for taking the money and fleecing the young students out of a hard earned education.
DO NOT BE SURPRISED if the USA and other countries start examining the passing rate performance of schools to determine where they will find their nurses!! I suspect that WHERE you went to college will soon be as important as exam scores are.
I hope so, at least
HOSS
Thank you to the above poster for understanding what I have been stating here for sometime. It is impossible to learn the proper skills when you have 15 to 18 students per one patient. I do not care what anyone says, if you do not have the experience while you are in school, you have not learned the basic skills that you are expected to have.
And I am starting to hope that they add in a skills test, like they are doing for physicians. With the proper training, I can get almost anyone thru the NCLEX exam. And that does not mean that they are a nurse. That exam does not check skills and that is what is so important.
dave787
583 Posts
i would suggest that the US states board of nursing WOULD REQUIRE to all international nurses like philippines tp passed the local board exam as a pre requisite in taking up the NCLEX US RN exam.