any FILIPINO members here?

nrswnabee · Jan 27, 2006

Hi nrswnabee! It's nice to see you again :) I just wanted to let you know that don't worry about opportunities for adn vs bsn. There are tons of open jobs that you can literally decline or choose offers. As long as you pass the NCLEX, jobs will be swarming! You will have the same chances as BSNs do. Because of the shortage hospitals/employers will not decline as long as you've showed great potential. I worked mostly in critical care and I've seen both ADNs and BSNs in the setting. The BSN is there just in case yo u wanted to get your masters or further your education. You can always get that later (some choose to do it online, i haven't quite accepted how that works, but it's easy i guess is my point...). I do understand, too, that you will have TONS of paying up to do after grad, but know that with your job security and the pay rates we get, you'll get by. Loans are going to be there no matter what, it's like buying a house-- it's an investment. Plus, there are hospitals that can pay back some percentage of your loan-- you just have to keep your eyes open for these opportunities. I suggest looking around now before you graduate so you can have those choices.
I agree that it might've been cheaper for you to attend a school in Pinas, but I guess if you count how much leg work and effort you'll exert to get your visa and all other tests after-- i think they just cancel each other out. cost vs comfort, i guess...
PS: though i really wouldn't mind going to school in Pinas-- Life here in the US is very busy and fast paced hehe. I guess given the opportunity to go back and just enjoy life with family and friends while getting inexpensive education, I'd take it :)

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hey, iseeu_rn, thanks for the encouragement...i'm thrilled to hear from you, too...

i know what you're saying...i don't intend to go back home to snag a BSN because i'm already here. hehehe, halata na obvious....=) but more than that, the option of studying nursing in the phils. isn't really for me because of some personal reasons. if maybe things aren' t exactly as they are now for me and my family, i could have easily chosen to study in the phils.....sa tutoo, lang....talaga!!!!! it's so freakin' expensive to study here i wanna strangle myself for not listening to my aunt to take nursing as my first degree.

as to the financial assistance, i wish i can open my eyes wider....i've asked about scholarships in school (i don't have any gpa problems, ahem,...salamat sa elem, hi-school and college schooling foundation sa pilipinas!!!) but i was told i don't qualify yet because of residency, non-citizen, etc. however, i'm keeping my fingers crossed because i could meet the residency requirement by spring...about student loans, i'm scared stiff just thinking about it especially so that i'm not doing any decent-paying job now. (f1 students have limited, limited work opportunities!) all i can afford now is the kind from "non-profit" bodies like....my relatives!!! good thing they are all wonderfully understanding (they are of a rare species nowadays). i only needed to give them my word as my collateral...

we can argue that ADN and BSN have similar opportunities but why was it called one and the other if they are really just the same? i'm not as young as you are, iseeu_rn, and i know that if i don't get any BSN later, i may get stuck with doing more of the physical work of nursing than maybe administrative or something less strenous...anyhow, i've resolved to take ADN first then worry about BSN later after i've paid off my debts (up to my eyeballs!). it's hard (what's not...in life???) but i'm keeping my focus. when i graduate and pass the nclex, i hope to brush aside all these. look out, world...

jenspec · Jan 28, 2006

im a nurse here in michigan.

IseeU_rn · Jan 29, 2006

nursewannabe- it's just the amount of years you've taken to finish nursing, that's the only difference. It's just the "karangalan" and added classes of the bachelor status that's different. Nursing-wise they both end up the same = nurses, even the pay is the same. You just have more prospects of advancement when you do the bachelors. I know you know all these, but I just want to reassure you that all is well. At the rate we're going with the shortage, you won't have problems paying them back. :) Much luck and stay strong :)

nrswnabee · Jan 29, 2006

nursewannabe- it's just the amount of years you've taken to finish nursing, that's the only difference. It's just the "karangalan" and added classes of the bachelor status that's different. Nursing-wise they both end up the same = nurses, even the pay is the same. You just have more prospects of advancement when you do the bachelors. I know you know all these, but I just want to reassure you that all is well. At the rate we're going with the shortage, you won't have problems paying them back. :) Much luck and stay strong :)

---you're right. tsaka na yang "dangal"...i feel your love, thanks!

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nursecpa · Feb 2, 2006

Can anybody please share his/her experience re applying for NY licensure? I'm a new nurse and my next step is to take the NCLEX without going thru CGFNS certification. The NY route is recommended by people here over other states. I'm thinking of Illinois but nothing is final yet. How long has it taken you to have your papers verified by CG and evaluated by NY BON and were there problems along the way?

Thanks for sharing

djv · Feb 4, 2006

Never work there but have being in the Phillippines.

eznal · Feb 4, 2006

Uh huh! I really do not totally agree that Filipino doctors are forced to take up nursing after getting their medical license just to provide for their family. In the first place, I think they had a very wrong motive in taking up medicine. What they wanted is really to earn big fat MONEY and get rich. So finally, they realized that doctors, especially newly graduate can not be rich overnight, just what they thought before, so they turned their back from their oath and went to nursing because they can see that there is a lot of opportunity for nurses to be rich especially abroad.
What happens when they practice nursing? They thought that they are the boss because they know everything! They question every order of the doctors. I knew that as nurses, we are our client's advocate and have the right to question doctors to protect our clients/patients. But doctors turned nurses sometimes do it arrogantly. Ooops sorry, these are all based from my personal observations (I am not saying that this applies to everyone - doctors turned nurses).

hi everyone. Im a newbie here. Just want to say im so happy i found this website. hello also to suzanne, i think she's the most helpful in the posts iv read so far.

Just cant help but react to this post...my dear, im a doctor here in the Phil, graduated in UST. I am a specialist now, and have served the country for more than 10yrs as a doctor. The exodus of doctors to other countries after taking up nursing is not because as you've said, we HAD THE WRONG MOTIVE FOR TAKING UP MEDICINE- TO EARN FAT MONEY. It's because we realized we also have to secure our children's future. Sad as it may seem, nurses and doctors, and other health professionals in our country, for that matter, are underpaid, over-worked, and we dont even have hazard pay. We expose ourselves to a lot of risks, and what we get are innuendos from people like you who judge us. Do you realize that most doctors here will not be able to send their children to medical schools, unlike our parents who did? I am just blessed I have a husband who can provide well, and that is the reason I was able to enjoy my career, and put into practice what I have learned from UST, while he takes care of the finances. Imagine if I am the breadwinner! I love this country and my profession, but I took up nursing as well; call it SELF-SACRIFICE- that my children will have a better life. That is a mother's unconditional love. In the process, I have learned to love nursing as well, appreciated their work, and truly I can say I am more tolerant, even to the ones who are still training.

For the record- though I know you've mentioned that this does not apply to everyone- we dont pretend to know everything. NO ONE HAS A MONOPOLY OF KNOWLEDGE, because life is a continuous learning process.

Be easy on your judgement, my dear. You might even get to respect us more, once you get to know us. We are such nice people, really.

To the other Filipino nurses posting here, kumusta po, and let's be proud to be Filipinos. I really hope to get to know you, guys!

nrswnabee · Feb 4, 2006

hi everyone. Im a newbie here. Just want to say im so happy i found this website. hello also to suzanne, i think she's the most helpful in the posts iv read so far.
Just cant help but react to this post...my dear, im a doctor here in the Phil, graduated in UST. I am a specialist now, and have served the country for more than 10yrs as a doctor. The exodus of doctors to other countries after taking up nursing is not because as you've said, we HAD THE WRONG MOTIVE FOR TAKING UP MEDICINE- TO EARN FAT MONEY. It's because we realized we also have to secure our children's future. Sad as it may seem, nurses and doctors, and other health professionals in our country, for that matter, are underpaid, over-worked, and we dont even have hazard pay. We expose ourselves to a lot of risks, and what we get are innuendos from people like you who judge us. Do you realize that most doctors here will not be able to send their children to medical schools, unlike our parents who did? I am just blessed I have a husband who can provide well, and that is the reason I was able to enjoy my career, and put into practice what I have learned from UST, while he takes care of the finances. Imagine if I am the breadwinner! I love this country and my profession, but I took up nursing as well; call it SELF-SACRIFICE- that my children will have a better life. That is a mother's unconditional love. In the process, I have learned to love nursing as well, appreciated their work, and truly I can say I am more tolerant, even to the ones who are still training.
For the record- though I know you've mentioned that this does not apply to everyone- we dont pretend to know everything. NO ONE HAS A MONOPOLY OF KNOWLEDGE, because life is a continuous learning process.
Be easy on your judgement, my dear. You might even get to respect us more, once you get to know us. We are such nice people, really.
To the other Filipino nurses posting here, kumusta po, and let's be proud to be Filipinos. I really hope to get to know you, guys!

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if you aren't one yet, i think you're gonna make a wonderful nurse! keep posting....

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eznal · Feb 5, 2006

You're very kind, thank you very much. I do intend to do good in this new profession I chose, in fact I am loving it to the fullest. Nice to learn about Therapeutic Communication, which most MD's take for granted...

Nursing is like a breath of fresh air. I think it is more caring than the training in Medicine.

Thanks again.

paula77720 · Feb 5, 2006

hey,

there are endless opportunites for nursing in the US, so stop the bickering and support each other. I graduated from an exclusive school in Manila ten years ago and nursing was the farthest thing in my mind then. But being here in the states, I have weighed my option and decided that nursing tops the list. My friends back home would have laughed ten years ago had i chosen nursing as a career, but now that Im an RN, i have no regrets. I like the profession, with its ups and down. You just have to find your niche and be happy.

zelle · Feb 6, 2006

hello everyone

i'm a pre-nursing student (i guess that's what you call someone who's still undecided) LOL i'm in here to learn everything i can about nursing and the work opportunities for someone like me. I'm 28 right now, have my own business yet thinking about taking nursing. I just want to live abroad. LOL

Am I in the right forum? I just need to connect with people to see if it will be right for me to take nursing or to just stay here in Pinas and improve my business.

I took up AB IS from Ateneo, graduated 98. Its not a pre-med course so when i showed my transcript to one of the schools here in our province they said it'll take me 4 years to complete the course!!! Anyway, hope to get to know all you gals & guys in here. Stay safe all.

nrswnabee · Feb 6, 2006

hello everyone
i'm a pre-nursing student (i guess that's what you call someone who's still undecided) LOL i'm in here to learn everything i can about nursing and the work opportunities for someone like me. I'm 28 right now, have my own business yet thinking about taking nursing. I just want to live abroad. LOL
Am I in the right forum? I just need to connect with people to see if it will be right for me to take nursing or to just stay here in Pinas and improve my business.
I took up AB IS from Ateneo, graduated 98. Its not a pre-med course so when i showed my transcript to one of the schools here in our province they said it'll take me 4 years to complete the course!!! Anyway, hope to get to know all you gals & guys in here. Stay safe all.

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i'd say this is the perfect site. you can learn about the good, the bad the ugly about nursing, things you need to consider about studying nursing, immigration concerns, practicing nursing in the u.s. the information will be at your fingertips but the decision remains yours to make....God bless.