Female nurses earn less than male nurses

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pay: the gender gap

a woman's work is never done. though you might not know it to look at her paycheck.

according to u.s. census bureau statistics, women make on average 25 percent less than men. this is, however, a marked improvement over 1970, when women made 41 percent less.

it varies by race

the pay gap differs by race, with the earnings of white women being just 72 percent of those of white men; black women making 82 percent as much as their male counterparts; and hispanic women earning 83 percent of what hispanic men earn. the rutgers school of management relations says this is primarily because white men still earn the most among all groups of workers.

it's wider among professionals

regardless of educational level, men out-earn women. for example, in 2000, college educated women earned just $5,000 more a year than male high school graduates.

while education has a major positive effect on the earnings of both sexes, it is particularly strong for men. interestingly, the wage gap is largest among the most highly educated groups.

a researcher exploring the pay and promotion gap among statisticians attributed this to women not wanting to put themselves forward as candidates for competition. she found that while most women did not apply for higher jobs because they believed they needed more time and preparation, ironically, those who did apply actually had more success than their male counterparts.

while causes of the gender pay gap are complex and include work/family choices, data on women's dramatically lower recognition in domains where their talents and achievements are equal to men's imply there is a tendency to undervalue a woman's work and contributions.

occupation matters

the gap appears in all occupations, however it is largest in the category of medicine and health management, where women earn just 63 percent of what men do. even in predominantly female medical fields like nursing (9 out of 10 rns are women), female nurses still earn just 88 of what male nurses make.jobs with the smallest gender pay gaps include legal assistants, where women earn 96 percent of what men do, as well as male-dominated occupations like engineering, where women earn 89 percent as much as men, and police and detective work, where women earn 83 percent as much as men.

according to labor department figures, women who choose non-traditional careers such as dentists (just 20 percent are women) or airline pilots or navigators (less than 4 percent are female), can expect to have lifetime earnings that are 150 percent higher than those of women who choose traditional careers.

pay vs. satisfaction

despite the pay gap, according to several studies, women are actually more satisfied at work!

careerbuilder.com's recent "pulse of the worker" survey found that despite receiving lower raises, fewer bonuses, and having lower expectations for being promoted, women were more likely than men to report that, overall, they are happy with their jobs.

who said a woman is never satisfied?

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women's issues in the workplace

the wage gap for working women is 74 cents to a man's dollar earned. the facts continue to show women are not earning all they could. some of the figures related to this gap include recent women college graduates earn nearly 16 percent less than men. the average woman loses approximately $420,000 over a lifetime due to unequal pay practices, resulting in fewer savings for retirement.

in 1996, the median weekly earnings for all men was $557, compared to $418 for all women, $362 for african american women, and $316 for hispanic women. poverty rates are higher at every age for women who live alone or with non-relatives than for their male counterparts. women of color face discrimination in earnings based on both race and gender, african american women earned 65.1 percent, while hispanic women earn only 56.6 percent of white men's wages on average.

in 1995, the u.s. bureau of labor statistics reported that male nurses were paid three percent more, or $1,144 more per year than female nurses. male secretaries, stenographers and typists earned 12 percent more, an annual $2,392 more than female secretaries.

the more educated a woman, the wider the wage gap. women with a high school diploma earn $9,000 less a year than their white male colleagues, and college educated african american women earn $2,558 less than white male high school graduates.finally about 60 percent of the improvement in the wage gap during the last 15 years can be attributed to the decline in men's real earnings.

source: bpw/usa's 101 facts on the status of working women

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Specializes in Med-Surg, Trauma, Ortho, Neuro, Cardiac.
In my many years of nursing I have worked with a few good male nurses, ones I would share a shift with anytime, anyplace, anyhow. But, in general, I have worked with male nurses who just did not do their work, used the flirty, smiling, brown-nosing attitude to get ahead, and then when the job was too much for them tried to con some poor female into "giving me a hand with this."

I heard ,just this weekend ,that one guy in particular had finally been called on the carpet by an older, experienced, drill sargent-type nurse, from what I hear she refuses to let him back in her department, will come in and cover herself, but he is never to come back. Seems like he just did not get around to giving that second unit of blood, HGB was only 7.1, so no rush, let the good old day shift RN,female ofcourse, do it. When I worked with this guy and NONE of the 06:00am meds or fingersticks were done and I complained, I was told he was managing other problems, even when I showed a pattern, so I am glad someone with clout got his butt.P.S. the other problems were computer games with the ER male nurse.

I usually admire what you have to say, but I have to say I this one bothers me. I can pick plenty of females that do not do their work and pass things on the to next shift and are downright dangerous, that flirt whenever a doc comes in, on and on.

I'm not saying your experiences aren't valid. But we all have stories to tell about lazy nurses. What does his being male have to do with it?

Male vs female nurses. I've dealt with this issue for 20 years in health care nursing. What I've come up with is that really, we are all nurses. All with different traits and characteristics. If a nurse makes a mistake it is not because she's a female or a male, they are equal "a nurse". The personality of nurses and how they get along with the patients and their fellow workers is the key here. Confident, well educated nurses seem to move up the ladder in any organisation, and I've seen some females with these traits do a very good job. I have to admit though that it is the males that get noticed and are more scrutinised at their decisions, more under the microscope. I have many friends who are female co-workers and share good working relations with them, but we don't hang out after working hours. I believe that this is the biggest difference between nursing and other professions.

Having a balance of male and female staff staff is the key to a healthy workplace. Men and women have different styles and can compliment and bring more diversity to the profession. You can not give generalities to "this is what male nurses are like" I've seen variations of both. Many of our regional mangers are females who got there because of the "tough" managing styles they represent. I wondered if the same managing styles were displayed by "male" managers whether it would be seen as being too agressive. Right now in the region I work in, we have no male managers in nursing. Boy, I should be ticked right off! Nah. The nursing profession is what you make of it. There will always be the negative, bitter ones who will try to bring you down, for whatever reason. I don't think, however that it is any different in other workforces.

Specializes in Specializes in L/D, newborn, GYN, LTC, Dialysis.

I've worked with a lot of lazy good for nothing nurses both male and female. But I haven't seen any advantage to being male in my nursing career. I've also worked primarily at a hospital with a female CEO and females in all the positions of "power" in the nursing department.

But that's my story and we all have different stories and experiences to tell. I've found the articles interesting and a bit disappointing. One would think we've moved beyond that.

AMEN AND AMEN, can we NOT move beyond it already? Give me a unionized facility anytime. I Have worked in both non-union and union, and our wages are NOT secret and MEN do not have a leg-up on women where I work. It's more fair, althought imperfect. At least we all start on even ground. Like I have said before, give me a qualified nurse, gender, sexual preference, race, religious background DO NOT MATTER.

Specializes in med surg, tele, ortho, preop, recovery.

Not saying its right but I think the fact that men make more than women comes from the antiquated view that men are the "breadwinners" therefore should make a decent amount more than women.

Unfortunately, this isn't the case anymore. More and more women are heads of families for various reasons and are responsible for everything financially and its harder to do it on minimal income. They should be able to make the same amount as men since women are filling the same roles that were traditionally held by men.

Specializes in Rodeo Nursing (Neuro).

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My experience is too limited to say whether male nurses advance faster. Not relevent to me, since all I want to be is a med-surg bedside nurse. As for pay, I still think you'd have to account for OT, perdiem, on-call, etc. to make a meaningful comparison.

I've been told repeatedly that being male helped me get into nursing school, but it ain't so--admissions are based on a completely objective scale, and the highest scores get in. Doesn't even ask about gender. But there's no point arguing with the ones who say it. I'll get my job based on the simple fact that my supervisors like my work ethic and I'll have an RN license. I suppose it could become relevent if I go somewhere else, but it looks to me like most places are taking any nurse they can get.

I have mixed feelings on the union thing. I'm union, now, and all it has really done is keep lazy people on the job so I can do their work. Our non-union nurses get more raises and better benefits. But managers change, and a union can be good protection if you get one who just doesn't like your hairstyle.

It seems like I stepped on a few toes sharing my experience with a male counterpart recently. As I stated, I have worked with a few good male nurses. Unfortunately my experience with male nurses, while not really limited, has been less than outstanding. To those of you on this BB who are male, and do your jobs and care about your patients, I offer an apology. To the ones who don't, enough said.

By the way, you people missed some real good lines about marrying cousins, being on welfare, and holler trash.

Specializes in Specializes in L/D, newborn, GYN, LTC, Dialysis.

I think generalizations have no place on any thread, here is no exception.

Specializes in Med-Surg, Trauma, Ortho, Neuro, Cardiac.
It seems like I stepped on a few toes sharing my experience with a male counterpart recently. As I stated, I have worked with a few good male nurses. Unfortunately my experience with male nurses, while not really limited, has been less than outstanding. To those of you on this BB who are male, and do your jobs and care about your patients, I offer an apology. To the ones who don't, enough said.

By the way, you people missed some real good lines about marrying cousins, being on welfare, and holler trash.

If that's your experience, then that's your experience.

Now that I think about, my job is stressful, I spend most of my time verifying secretaries orders, doing 24 hour chart checks, helping out on the unit, being short-staffed, having to put up with a lot of crap from co-workers, the manager, and the supervisors. Unfortunately my experience with females nurses, now that I think about, as been less than outstanding.

Not saying its right but I think the fact that men make more than women comes from the antiquated view that men are the "breadwinners" therefore should make a decent amount more than women.

Unfortunately, this isn't the case anymore. More and more women are heads of families for various reasons and are responsible for everything financially and its harder to do it on minimal income. They should be able to make the same amount as men since women are filling the same roles that were traditionally held by men.

Can't remember the last time I had an oppurtunity to marry a working woman and raise the family.

Specializes in Specializes in L/D, newborn, GYN, LTC, Dialysis.
Can't remember the last time I had an oppurtunity to marry a working woman and raise the family.

meaning what exactly?

The same company that advanced the male over me had mandatory inservices twice a year on what to do if anyone approached you regarding unions. It was like a four letter word and we were not to even think about it. Corrective action would be taken if it were known we were talking about it and I'm sure there would be a way to terminate the person. Salaries were also off limits and very secret. They just weren't discussed, period! It was like a criminal act if you were known to tell your salary or discuss someone else's. It took me thirteen years but I finally had enough and left that company. I was lost for a long time, actually still am but I couldn't stand the mistreatment any longer. Now I don't know where I belong so I'm going back to school to be a NP but of course if I go up against a male for the same job I'm sure he'll be picked and offered more salary. Sorry to sound so bitter, just been burned too many times!:angryfire

Sorry for your experience. Hope the new career path brings you much more happiness.

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