Failed Nursing 4 by .8 of a point

[Cherway95]

Hello I am asking around to see how is it possible to win an appeal when it really has nothing to do with policy is there a chance? My dean said I didn't make the grade point blank very cut and dry. But see I have committed everyday to this pushed my kids aside and worked o very hard. Not that people don't I no I am not alone. But I found myself taking the final and I was on number 50 and I marked 49 on the scantron I never checked prior questions because time. I have a diagnosis of anxiety and ADD but I didn't request accomidations because I wanted to see if I could do without now I kick myself because if I had enough time I could have caught a error and passed. I felt so confident after the finaland I don't feel that way easily so this makes sense to me. The school had us pay for boards get unform and pin all before knowing if we passed I have been crushed. Is appealing this a joke?

[jamesonx]

They don't let us see the final afterwards

according to my pharmacology professor, we are supposed to see our finals or tests by law. but idk if that is true? I'm gonna just trust her on that one haha

but i always found that those who don't allow us to see our test and how it was graded to be very unfair. should seem like a student should be able to see it.

[Cherway95]

We were aloud to see the exams except the final. They should me my scan tron only I was told because they shred them but I don't really no. I don't expect to win this but something that means so much I can't let it go easily

[SHGR, MSN, RN, CNS]

Does your program have a system for a grade appeal process? That would have the professor look through your tests and work for the extra point you would need to pass.

And lesson learned for anyone reading this, get the accommodations you need/deserve. You don't always have to use them; you can opt not to- but if you have a dx, see your campus ADA person and get the paperwork done. It will be worth it.

I'm sorry this happened to you, OP. It's hard.

[Cherway95]

Yes it is hard. I'm having a difficult time with this really. I have been working towards my rn for 14 years between life having kids renewing science classes getting my Lpn. They never look for points to help you they don't care. If thry gave me a chance to redo the final and I failed then ok but there is no more chances. I'm still waiting for an appeal date and I no I won't win but if I drive them crazy send them home with a headache I done well. I no you can't do for one and not do for others but I believe each situation is different. Then I was told you shldnt be cutting it so close to the grade either would you want your family or yourself treated by a nurse who just barely

cut grade ? Idk I wonder if it's a sign since everything with school I have to work so so hard for it doesn't come easy for me and I still fail. Sorry I'm having a pity party for myself when you see your pin your outfit have to cancel hair appointment and tell family that's flying in the news it's all so heartbreaking all the sacrifice away from my children was suppose to pay off and I didn't succeed í ½í¸ª

[Cherway95]

This is what I found in the handbook

Grade Appeal is when there is belief that there has been an error in the calculation or reportingof a final grade, or a question or concern about a final grade. The student should first contact theinstructor. Should it be necessary to carry the inquiry further, follow the conflictresolution/appeal process found in the college catalog.

Educational institutions have the responsibility for evaluating students by standards and agrading system which is publicized and known to instructors and students. The responsibility fordetermining the final grade of each student rests with the faculty member who has responsibilityfor teaching the course in which the student is responsible for demonstrating the learning whichresults in a final grade. A student who feels that the final grade he/she received in the class isunfair is entitled to an appeal.

Any student pursuing a grade appeal must follow the procedure outlined below. Students areresponsible for taking action within the procedural timeline. Grade appeals not following thisprocedure are not eligible for review.

Step One: The student must discuss his/her concerns with the instructor.

Step Two: If no agreement can be reached, the student may appeal to the Chair of the

department.

Step Three: If no agreement can be reached, then the student may appeal to theAcademic Appeals Committee, which will make a recommendation to the Senior VicePresident for Academic and Student Affairs.

Step Four: The Student may appeal directly to the Senior Vice President of Academicand Student Affairs after the Academic Appeals Committee has made itsrecommendations.

[Cherway95]

Can I ask you a question , I just received a email from the chair of the appeals commitee he is reviewing my

informstion and emailing me the paperwork for appeal process. It won't be until the fall which leaves me sitting here wondering do I start another program or wait and just review. He said it's the commitee responsibility to make sure syllabus has been followed and the integrity policy followed. So I don't no what to think or feel about this

[windsurfer8, BSN, RN]

Here is the deal...what if you make a "mistake" when administering medications? If your anxiety and ADD cause you to make mistakes then should your patient suffer as well? I am not judging you I am repeating what you stated. As far as "pushing your kids aside" that is a personal decision and does not mean you should automatically pass the class. Look around your classroom..everyone has outside stressors going on and yet they are expected to perform. You must understand WHY they have standards that must be met.

[NanikRN]

Here is the deal...what if you make a "mistake" when administering medications? If your anxiety and ADD cause you to make mistakes then should your patient suffer as well? I am not judging you I am repeating what you stated. As far as "pushing your kids aside" that is a personal decision and does not mean you should automatically pass the class. Look around your classroom..everyone has outside stressors going on and yet they are expected to perform. You must understand WHY they have standards that must be met.

Actually, you are judging. You are taking the words OP said and putting your own slant on it.

requiring accomadations doesn't mean her ADD and anxiety is making her make mistakes. It means it is interferring with her test taking abilities. Notice this is about the written test, not her clinical performance.

And I believe she is already a practicing LVN. I'm not too worried about her standards

Good luck to you, OP. In my experience nursing school have little flexability but I wish you well with your appeal

[Cherway95]

Thank you for speaking on my behalf. Yes I'm an Lpn.

[bgxyrnf, MSN, RN]

what if you make a "mistake" when administering medications?

What if you do?

I have... and anybody who claims not to have either (a) has forgotten, (b) doesn't realize it, © hasn't worked for long or in a busy department or at a frenetic pace, or (d) isn't being honest about it.

Errors happen. Do they happen at a higher rate among people with diagnosed anxiety or attention deficit disorders? I don't know... and unless you can point to a peer-reviewed article, neither do you.

If your anxiety and ADD cause you to make mistakes then should your patient suffer as well?

All kinds of things contribute to errors and very few things "cause" errors. Rather, errors are generally the product of a confluence of atypical conditions and events.

On could argue that a person with ADD might be less likely to commit errors because quite often they have compensatory behaviors. And the truth is, medication administration doesn't require the kind of sustained focus with which ADD persons sometimes struggle.

[Cherway95]

I have never been on any medications for ADD until the RN program. I didn't plan to stay on it after graduation. It just helps me focus on reading long chapters and studying.

Regardless since the board looks at the syllabus being followed and integrity I'm pretty sure there won't be any consideration on my issue. But I'm willing to fight hard like I did in school to let them no I'm not going to just so easily let it go It truely meant so much to me and I no I'm no different then others. But I have seen people in clinicals not care about there patients it's all about the paycheck and for me it's not. I don't deserve money until I gain more exsperience and I'm willing to work for it while giving the best care I can to any of my patients. I happen to be the only one to fail nursing 4 and I sit and wonder why did it happen to me. It's all irrelevant feelings caring empathetic working hard doing the job with your heart and being an overall good kind caring person gets me nowhere not a chance because well it's not all so much on policy and procedure. I appreciate all the advice good and bad forever learning

[windsurfer8, BSN, RN]

SO you are ok with her being allowed to pass because she claims she has ADD. So with that then why have any standards? Patients just have to be ok with nurses who are not capable of passing nursing school? How about MDs? Why not have doctors who actually can't pass medical school, but hey they are depressed so they just let them pass. You are essentially saying standards are pointless because she is a "practicing LVN". Oh well hey..just make her an RN since it makes no difference between LVN and RN. Make call LVNs and CNAs automatic RNs even if they can't pass the classes because they are already working in a hospital and because NanikRN "isn't worried" about it. Tell that to the lawyer and see how that goes after the med error.