Published Sep 20, 2014
GymGirl8
7 Posts
Im aware Im not alone with failing the crne 3 times, but Im just looking for others out there as well! Just to see what has happened for them and where life ended up taking them. I failed the last two attempts by 1%. I recieved a letter about a committee having a meeting and will send me a letter ..not sure about what or if it will be anything positive I emailed a letter only because my family was begging me not to give up.. i think i may have submitted it a bit late but i sent one anyways. I had nothing happen to me that would have affected my studying so I wrote them an honest email about how hard and dedicated i was to my studying, how i took a course in toronto, used a variety of texts and took other courses to help me, how i was on the deans honor roll, etc etc.
But anyways, just looking for others out there like me.. its devasting absolutely, but i have to believe there is something bigger and better out there for me. AND everything happens for a reason.
pnpmycallin2017
146 Posts
Well dear I am a 2x crne failure and there is much more out there for you. As you know CRNE is no longer the exam entry to practice in Canada go and take the nclex and try to enforce it over as exam entry to practice.
JustBeachyNurse, LPN
13,957 Posts
Why when you can take the NCLEX in Canada in a few months?
@just be achy the problem is she has failed CRNE 3X in Canada its 3 strikes and your out, so the college is unwilling to offer anymore entry to practice exam attempts. However i believe the loophole lies in obtaining your nclex license in the USA in which you can then endorse your "passed nclex result" as entry into practice in Canada since the entry to practice exam will officially be nclex in jan. 2015.
Fiona59
8,343 Posts
It may not work though. From what we have heard NCLEX is harder than the CRNE and I'm sure the provincial colleges keep records of who failed multiple times. And don't forget that wonderful clause that often requires licensure in the place of education prior to issuing a provincial practice permit.
But if you failed to meet the entry to practice requirements (failed CRNE) then passing the US NCLEX will be of no value unless you wish to work in the US. I'm certain the provincial colleges of nursing have thought of this "loophole" and likely developing protocol such as requiring further Canadian nursing education. The NCLEX pass result is not a simple endorsement. It's a result acceptance in lieu of CRNE or Canadian NCLEX if you meet all other requirements for provincial nursing license. I seriously doubt the provinces will be lax on the 3 failed attempts and return to school just like they won't relax the English language standard requirements.
I'm going to guess that Just be achy is an autocorrect as I don't believe there is a member with that username.
NotReady4PrimeTime, RN
5 Articles; 7,358 Posts
The people in the registry sections of the Colleges of Nursing are definitely not stupid enough to automatically accept an applicant's NCLEX-US pass without cross-referencing. Unless a person is willing to commit fraud - like change their name, their date of birth, the year they completed nursing school and falsify all of their other documentation they're going to be in the system already as a 3-strikes individual. Maybe 30 years ago when everything was done via snail mail and only on paper that tactic might have worked, but in the electronic age, not so much.
In regards to the OP she is a Canadian graduate so she has met all the requirements except for the exam component. If this is the only thing missing she can write the nclex ASAP and use it as exam entry to practice assuming she is still within the safe practice timeline of 3 years. Now in regards to the colleges being aware of multiple attempt at writing the exam, they sure are onto it and further changes will be made in Jan 2015.
As it stands currently with CNO a candidate that wants to use NCLEX as entry to practice can do so with unlimited amount of attempts as of now Oct. 2014. But in Jan. 2015 there may likely be further changes to this rule. I am not making any of this up, I called CNO myself and verified this information as I have also been unsuccessful on CRNE x2. So it is also in my best interest to be informed on these changes with CNO.
The CNO stated that through October 2014 Canadian candidates have unlimited attempts at the NCLEX? Interesting.
Hmm ....I've had some friends mention you are able to write the nclex, but I thought you have to have your canadians RN license to write/ practice in the states as well? Im not too sure I even want to work in the states, yikes.. if all else fails, I think maybe I'll write the RPN exam and see how that goes.
Let me see if I have this straight. Someone educated as a nurse in a Canadian institution of learning cannot pass the Canadian entry-to-practice exam (although much of what is taught today in nursing schools is to the exam and not to functional nursing) after three attempts, but will be allowed infinite tries at the NCLEX in the US, which would then allow him or her to become registered in Canada by way of a loophole. I don't think so. First off, applying to write the NCLEX-RN in the US is part of becoming registered in a state or territory, in the same way that in Canada a person applies for registration with one of the Colleges of Nursing and the CRNE (NCLEX after this last exam) is one of the requirements. One does not simply show up one day and say, "I'm here to write the exam." Second, to write the NCLEX in the US - let's use New York as an example since it borders Ontario - a person educated in Canada would have to be assessed by CGFNS and wait until the education has been approved before applying to write. The key here is that a person is not applying to write the exam, they are applying for registration as a nurse in that state. PearsonVUE will not approve an application without authorization to test (ATT) from a state board of nursing. While New York doesn't have a limit on the number of attempts a person may make at passing the exam, each attempt costs both time and money. This route to bypass the provincial regulations isn't reasonable or logical.
I am not here to defend decisions people make when trying to get license in Canada or USA. But if we are talking about being "logical" then lets say you attend nursing school for 4 years rack up 50k in student dept, the inconvenience of being licensed in a state like New York is minor setback considering going back to school for another 4 years to train in another field. Just my two cents!
Also on a side note let me tell you that some states will:
1.) Accept your Canadian BScN
2.) Will also allow you to be eligible to take nclex even through you have not passed the Canadian exam
3.) will issue you a license without a SSN
So at the end of the day when options like this are available it may not be as unreasonable as you think.