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Im aware Im not alone with failing the crne 3 times, but Im just looking for others out there as well! Just to see what has happened for them and where life ended up taking them. I failed the last two attempts by 1%. I recieved a letter about a committee having a meeting and will send me a letter ..not sure about what or if it will be anything positive :no: I emailed a letter only because my family was begging me not to give up.. i think i may have submitted it a bit late but i sent one anyways. I had nothing happen to me that would have affected my studying so I wrote them an honest email about how hard and dedicated i was to my studying, how i took a course in toronto, used a variety of texts and took other courses to help me, how i was on the deans honor roll, etc etc.

But anyways, just looking for others out there like me.. its devasting absolutely, but i have to believe there is something bigger and better out there for me. AND everything happens for a reason.

Hmm ....I've had some friends mention you are able to write the nclex, but I thought you have to have your canadians RN license to write/ practice in the states as well? Im not too sure I even want to work in the states, yikes.. if all else fails, I think maybe I'll write the RPN exam and see how that goes. :unsure:

I love how people who can't pass CRNE think they will some how magically pass CPNRE!

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Excuse me @Fiona59 ... are you trying to insult me? Just because I failed the crne doesnt make me an idiot. The exam does NOT define my intelligence. What makes you think you're better than me? If I wanted too I could pass the RPN exam, so sorry you woke up on the wrong side of the bed. I thought this place was for help and support, guess not.

Thanks sooo much for everything :)

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CNO posted if you have not applied for assessment before Sept 18, 2014 you will need to take the NCLEX regardless if you previously passed the US NCLEX. If you applied to CNO before Sep 18, 2014 a passing score on the NCLEX attempted between 1982-2014 will fulfill the exam requirement. They will not permit/accept more than 3 attempts of any combination of licensing exams (CRNE & NCLEX) or you will need to return to school for further education. So if you failed the CRNE twice then attempt the US NCLEX and fail you have hit the maximum 3 attempt licensing exam limit and need to contact CNO for further instruction.

There are not unlimited attempts to pass the NCLEX

Here is the link:

http://www.cno.org/become-a-nurse/entry-to-practice-examinations/2015-nclex-exam/nclex-rn-writing-the-exam/

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Excuse me @Fiona59 ... are you trying to insult me? Just because I failed the crne doesnt make me an idiot. The exam does NOT define my intelligence. What makes you think you're better than me? If I wanted too I could pass the RPN exam, so sorry you woke up on the wrong side of the bed. I thought this place was for help and support, guess not.

Thanks sooo much for everything :)

This has been posted many times before, you cannot sit for the CPNRE in Ontario unless you attended and completed an RPN program. Failing the CNRE x 3 does not make someone eligible to write the CPNRE (in Ontario, I don't know about other provinces).

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Excuse me @Fiona59 ... are you trying to insult me? Just because I failed the crne doesnt make me an idiot. The exam does NOT define my intelligence. What makes you think you're better than me? If I wanted too I could pass the RPN exam, so sorry you woke up on the wrong side of the bed. I thought this place was for help and support, guess not.

Thanks sooo much for everything :)

Actually the exam does define your NURSING intelligence. My hospital has had IENs fail CRNE x3 and then go onto fail CPNRE x3. You don't know what you don't know until it slaps you in the face.

I actually passed my exam first writing and am employed as a nurse, so perhaps I do know a tad more than you.

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From the many different forums that I've been to, there seems to be quite a few comments that tend to offend other members. As a result, many members who are offended become defensive and appear to be insulted (as noted above). When studying and doing over a thousand questions for the CRNE, this was actually a scenario used for psychosocial questions. I remember a rationale that specifically says "direct" comments can lead to people feeling insulted, offended, and defensive.

Secondly, less experienced nurses who notice that these direct comments are not helpful and non-therapeutic voice their concerns and reasons, yet members who post such direct comments continue their ways. It also seems that such direct members are usually from the more experienced nurses. This is yet another scenario used in CRNE type questions, where a student nurse tells her preceptor that she is doing something wrong, but the preceptor continues without reflecting on what the student nurse said.

Interestingly enough I was able to use these threads to help me understand and remember concepts that the rationales were explaining when doing psychosocial questions.

Although none of these comments were ever directed towards me, as a third person reading them I do in fact find them quite offensive, and I'm sure I am not the only one.

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This has been posted many times before, you cannot sit for the CPNRE in Ontario unless you attended and completed an RPN program. Failing the CNRE x 3 does not make someone eligible to write the CPNRE (in Ontario, I don't know about other provinces).

This is incorrect information, in Ontario the base education for RPN and RNs is similar and there are several BScN educated nurses who are RPNs. Per the CNO guideline RN RPN practice, the client nurse and the environment; "RNs and RPNs study from the same body of nursing knowledge" Have you seen any statements on the CNO website that supports your claim? I know nurses who are BScN educated and are working as RPNS, so I am curious where your information comes from.

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This is incorrect information, in Ontario the base education for RPN and RNs is similar and there are several BScN educated nurses who are RPNs. Per the CNO guideline RN RPN practice, the client nurse and the environment; "RNs and RPNs study from the same body of nursing knowledge" Have you seen any statements on the CNO website that supports your claim? I know nurses who are BScN educated and are working as RPNS, so I am curious where your information comes from.

There are similarities, but there IS a difference between RPN and BScN trained RNs. It is two full years of education.

Yes there are many BScN trained nurses who are also RPNs because they completed their practical nursing diploma, then bridged to their BScN. Not because they completed their BScN and sat for the CPNRE. The CNO website states in order to write the CPNRE you must graduate from an approved practical nursing program. There is a list available as well!

I am an RPN in the process of completing my BScN at which point I am free to hold both licenses if I wish to pay the fees for both every year.

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xokw: what you are stating used to be true. Unfortunately, the rules started to bend in 2008/09 when there was a huge influx of IENs. Many were found to be insufficiently prepared for CRNE. Their degrees simply didn't meet Canadian requirements and CNO and CLPNA started bending the rules to allow them to remain to work in Canada. It caused and still does cause a huge amount of bad feelings amongst locally educated LPNs.

This rule bending also saw PN registration fees rise to cover the cost of staffing the provincial colleges to review the overseas applicants.

It's a very grey area and it's one that was raised at several provincial colleges AGMs but was quickly talked down by the governing bodies.

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xokw: what you are stating used to be true. Unfortunately, the rules started to bend in 2008/09 when there was a huge influx of IENs. Many were found to be insufficiently prepared for CRNE. Their degrees simply didn't meet Canadian requirements and CNO and CLPNA started bending the rules to allow them to remain to work in Canada. It caused and still does cause a huge amount of bad feelings amongst locally educated LPNs.

This rule bending also saw PN registration fees rise to cover the cost of staffing the provincial colleges to review the overseas applicants.

It's a very grey area and it's one that was raised at several provincial colleges AGMs but was quickly talked down by the governing bodies.

IENs are a totally different story than what I am talking about. I have met RNs from other countries who are working as RPNs here. I know nothing about that process.

If a graduate of a Canadian BScN program fails the CNRE 3x, they are not eligible to sit for the CPNRE as a consolidation prize. I just confirmed this by calling the CNO and speaking with a representative.

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Consolation* hehe

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How come?

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