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Explaining the Unexplainable

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The article was written by an ER Nurse.
 

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If only the public would listen to those of us who are walking the long hospital hallways, donning PPE, and providing care for COVID patients. Why won’t they? I can’t answer that. If only the health care professions could all apply the concepts of evidence-based practice to the COVID vaccine as we do in our day-to-day professional lives.

Why can’t we do this? I can’t answer that.

 

How do we explain the unexplainable? Are there words for the things we’ve experienced?

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SmilingBluEyes

Specializes in Specializes in L/D, newborn, GYN, LTC, Dialysis. Has 24 years experience.

The article answers that question. It comes down to politics and making a name for oneself.

On 9/22/2021 at 5:16 PM, SmilingBluEyes said:

The article answers that question. It comes down to politics and making a name for oneself.

And those that make fun of them and beat them down. I have had a few ask me are you one of the nurses on Twitter and facebook making fun of folks not getting the vaccine, not wanting to take the shot? I tell them no, I am not here to yell at you, talk down to you, be ugly to you, it is your decision. I actually don't tell people to get the shot, just in case, they are one of the few that die from the shot, so I stay impartial.  It is just a fact that a few do die from the shot, as they do from all vaccines, I just don't want to deal with the fallout of family afterwards were that to happen. 

First do no harm, and shouting down those that don't want to get the shot, be snidely to them on facebook and Twitter and behind their backs, sometimes to their faces, making fun of them that is doing harm, you can paint that picture any way you want, that is the basic truth. 

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I solemnly pledge myself before God and in the presence of this assembly to pass my life in purity and to practice my profession faithfully.
I shall abstain from whatever is deleterious and mischievous, and shall not take or knowingly administer any harmful drug.
I shall do all in my power to maintain and elevate the standard of my profession and will hold in confidence all personal matters committed to my keeping and all family affairs coming to my knowledge in the practice of my calling.
I shall be loyal to my work and devoted towards the welfare of those committed to my care.” 

Florence Nightingale Pledge

 

I submit that talking bad about patients, making fun of them, putting down other nurses regardless of whether they are right or wrong does not elevate the standard of this profession. And for all those that will whine well neither does telling people to not take the vaccine. I am not talking about them, I am talking about you. Are we kids now? well he did or she did so  there.. really??

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SmilingBluEyes

Specializes in Specializes in L/D, newborn, GYN, LTC, Dialysis. Has 24 years experience.

I don't make fun of those not getting vaccinated. I get angry. But I do not let it show in my work or with coworkers who refuse to vaccinate. It undermines our patients' confidence in us to bicker about vaccination in the workplace.

macawake, MSN

Has 13 years experience.

OP linked to a heartfelt article written by an ER nurse who has witnessed the devastating effects of the pandemic firsthand. My heart goes out to that nurse and all other healthcare professionals across the globe who’ve spent this past year and a half caring for millions of patients.

Could we perhaps make this one thread free of complaints and moans from those who feel hurt that not every healthcare professional is applauding some people’s choice to not get vaccinated? For most of those working the frontlines that choice is likely very hard to get behind since they see the effect that decision has, every shift they work. 

SmilingBluEyes

Specializes in Specializes in L/D, newborn, GYN, LTC, Dialysis. Has 24 years experience.

I will not get behind anyone choosing not to vax who does not have medical contraindications (as documented by a provider) or a letter from their spiritual leader explaining why vaccines are not permissible. It's a selfish choice to refrain as the whole community depends on it.

jive turkey

Specializes in A variety. Has 9 years experience.

2 hours ago, SmilingBluEyes said:

I will not get behind anyone choosing not to vax who does not have medical contraindications (as documented by a provider) or a letter from their spiritual leader explaining why vaccines are not permissible. It's a selfish choice to refrain as the whole community depends on it.

If we are going to use the selfish accusation then it goes both ways.  

People don't want the vaccine for fear of harm to self.  "Selfish"

People want everyone to take a vaccine regardless if they want to or not for fear the virus will harm them if everyone isn't vaccinated. 

"Selfish"

In both instances, people want a certain course of action for their own benefit. Selfish. 

SmilingBluEyes

Specializes in Specializes in L/D, newborn, GYN, LTC, Dialysis. Has 24 years experience.

Doing things for the greater good is hardly selfish.

toomuchbaloney

Has 43 years experience.

1 hour ago, jive turkey said:

 

In both instances, people want a certain course of action for their own benefit. Selfish

That's a characterization that conveniently ignores the patriotic and altruistic elements which inspire people to vaccinate when their country is struggling with a terrible pandemic.  That reality should make everyone wonder why? What is motivating this level of destructive rhetoric around this very important issue of vaccination? Your pattern of commenting provides clues. 

 

jive turkey

Specializes in A variety. Has 9 years experience.

3 hours ago, SmilingBluEyes said:

Doing things for the greater good is hardly selfish.

There are those who object to blanket mandates for the greater good.  They realize the threat of surrendering total control of what goes in to their body. Sure right now it's mandates and using people's jobs and gift cards as leverage. Don't underestimate what lengths the wealthy and powerful will go to in order to control people. 

Also, the spread of this disease is not exclusive to the unvaccinated so we have to chill will calling people selfish already.  I'm sure it was convenient while it lasted but doesn't fly

toomuchbaloney

Has 43 years experience.

17 hours ago, jive turkey said:

There are those who object to blanket mandates for the greater good.  They realize the threat of surrendering total control of what goes in to their body. Sure right now it's mandates and using people's jobs and gift cards as leverage. Don't underestimate what lengths the wealthy and powerful will go to in order to control people. 

Also, the spread of this disease is not exclusive to the unvaccinated so we have to chill will calling people selfish already.  I'm sure it was convenient while it lasted but doesn't fly

Now we are into the wider world of conspiracy theory paranoia...

Nah...we don't have to chill on correctly identifying the selfish element involved in choosing to remain unvaccinated in the middle of a pandemic.  Since it's been explained (with citations) that vaccinated but infected individuals are less likely to spread disease it only remains to decide if you just don't understand or if you are intending to mislead readers of these threads.  

I believe that you are intending to create concern and confusion around the issue of vaccination.  I suspect you are engaged in that behavior in other digital environments as well.