I know there are already a couple of posts for this school, but reading through the threads I didn't get all the information that I was looking for and considering that they are pretty old threads I made a new one because I didn't think anyone would look at those anymore. I've already completed all my prereqs at a community college, but I don't want to wait around forever to get into the community college rn program.
Anyways, I wanted to find out for those who are already in the program or have the info. What kind of studying should I do for their entrance exam? What kind of stuff comes in the tests. I also would like to know the cost or estimated cost of the school. And how do they go about choosing the students for the program? What exactly is the application process?
I've already called the school, but the lady that answered the phone wasn't able to give me much info except for that info sessions are in August and the program starts up again in January.
And if you are already in the program, I would like to know how to do you find the teachers to be?? Would you say that this is a good academic choice??
Please help me as I live really far away from this school and I am moving out there just for the program. It is a little difficult for me to just drive over to visit the school. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Yes, to KDM, most of the students going with these for-profit campuses and courses, don't realized the HUGH financial inpact on their lives later on. They are just so glad and happy to get accepted, the financial aid people are touting the easy financing and the schools themselves boast about the high paying salaries and the big demand for nurses and still doing it today. Notice all these Yahoo and MSN articles about what degrees and what the hottest jobs are, one is usually the nursing profession, but notice also on the side of these articles, guess who's sponsoring them? I call it misleading marketing.
I can tell you as a matter of fact, many of these financial aid employees are or once selling used cars, my cousin was one a couple of years ago, but could not take the guilt feeling once he got people to sign up. They can jack up the interest rate in some loans and so they make more in commissions, he did quit working for these places, even with the easy money to made.
But the reality is that after graduation the student is saddled with a very large debt load. They feel that once they get started in their first or second year, they can't quit now and just add on more loans, of which the financial aid will gladly find for you at a price. The one friend who is still looking for a nursing job after one year, has a loan repayment of $726 a month. Of her 6 other friends, they have loan payments ranging from $674 to $1,283 for the next 10 to 15 years. Realize that those coming off the CSU and UC schools are nowhere near these much higher loan balance amounts and at better interest rates.
Some were thinking of declaring bankruptcy, but any of these student loans are not able to be discharged by the court system. They plan to wipe out their credit cards debts just so they can make the student loan payments, and even under the new repayment plan based on your income is still a heavy hit every month. What makes it all the worse, their friends who did not take the for-profit courses are working now, some still not in the nursing side but at least, they have their smaller loan payments and much more managable.
Some were counting on getting a nursing profession loan forgiveness, but that's real wishful thinking and better off playing the lottery. It is possible in some cases, but need to find a job first and that does offer these programs.
That's why we were giving out advice to the others who wanted to get into nursing, but was wait-listed, wanted to jump into this very hot job market and took the easy way out. Knowing what they know now, do you think they would do it over again? We warned them and no one put a gun to their head or put fire under their feet to sign those loan papers. We also blame the marketing of these for-profit places and they should quit painting the rosy pictures. I bet their graduate hiring rates is very low compared to the other colleges. Yes, some may get hired in from the for-profit, thru connections, but thoswe are even fewer and far in between.
The instructors of course don't want to lose their extra money they make for retirement fun or keep the family's finances in check. I don't blame them so much, it's the for-profit owners and managment team that keeps this going. The for-profits are flooding the market place without any concerns of the real working world, but their TV ads and on-line and print media budget must be hugh to keep it from collapsing.
Well, off my soapbox and hope I've adviced others to really know what you're getting yourself into and draw your own conclusions. Best wishes to all!!
Yes, to KDM, most of the students going with these for-profit campuses and courses, don't realized the HUGH financial inpact on their lives later on. They are just so glad and happy to get accepted, the financial aid people are touting the easy financing and the schools themselves boast about the high paying salaries and the big demand for nurses and still doing it today. Notice all these Yahoo and MSN articles about what degrees and what the hottest jobs are, one is usually the nursing profession, but notice also on the side of these articles, guess who's sponsoring them? I call it misleading marketing.
I can tell you as a matter of fact, many of these financial aid employees are or once selling used cars, my cousin was one a couple of years ago, but could not take the guilt feeling once he got people to sign up. They can jack up the interest rate in some loans and so they make more in commissions, he did quit working for these places, even with the easy money to made.
But the reality is that after graduation the student is saddled with a very large debt load. They feel that once they get started in their first or second year, they can't quit now and just add on more loans, of which the financial aid will gladly find for you at a price. The one friend who is still looking for a nursing job after one year, has a loan repayment of $726 a month. Of her 6 other friends, they have loan payments ranging from $674 to $1,283 for the next 10 to 15 years. Realize that those coming off the CSU and UC schools are nowhere near these much higher loan balance amounts and at better interest rates.
Some were thinking of declaring bankruptcy, but any of these student loans are not able to be discharged by the court system. They plan to wipe out their credit cards debts just so they can make the student loan payments, and even under the new repayment plan based on your income is still a heavy hit every month. What makes it all the worse, their friends who did not take the for-profit courses are working now, some still not in the nursing side but at least, they have their smaller loan payments and much more managable.
Some were counting on getting a nursing profession loan forgiveness, but that's real wishful thinking and better off playing the lottery. It is possible in some cases, but need to find a job first and that does offer these programs.
That's why we were giving out advice to the others who wanted to get into nursing, but was wait-listed, wanted to jump into this very hot job market and took the easy way out. Knowing what they know now, do you think they would do it over again? We warned them and no one put a gun to their head or put fire under their feet to sign those loan papers. We also blame the marketing of these for-profit places and they should quit painting the rosy pictures. I bet their graduate hiring rates is very low compared to the other colleges. Yes, some may get hired in from the for-profit, thru connections, but thoswe are even fewer and far in between.
The instructors of course don't want to lose their extra money they make for retirement fun or keep the family's finances in check. I don't blame them so much, it's the for-profit owners and managment team that keeps this going. The for-profits are flooding the market place without any concerns of the real working world, but their TV ads and on-line and print media budget must be hugh to keep it from collapsing.
Well, off my soapbox and hope I've adviced others to really know what you're getting yourself into and draw your own conclusions. Best wishes to all!!
Thank you BennyRNCA!! I'm going to stay away from those for-profit school and just continue going to my community college and from there go to a University for my BSN. It will take a while but in the long run I won't have a huge debt and I'll have my BSN
There's a chance that if Everest falls into the same situation as Excelsior (see below), they will be many nursing students stuck holding the bag ($10,000's of loans) and only the financial aid sales people and management are going to take it easy in paradise.
Excelsior College School of Nursing graduates are widely recognized and welcomed by Boards of Nursing throughout most of the United States. However, due to the unique model of non-traditional nursing degree programs, and because RN licensure rules vary from state to state, some states have additional requirements for licensure of Excelsior College associate degree in nursing graduates. These additional stipulations are based on state-specific Nurse Practice Act requirements and rules or regulations pertaining to the practice of professional nursing in the different states.
California: Direct licensure: All graduates enrolled on or before December 5, 2003 may apply for RN licensure.
February 24, 2011
Yikes for folks who graduated after those dates, still up in the air.
Excelsior now MUST disclose their problem with those that gets degrees from the states that will not or may not accept their degrees and it goes back to your prior training and schooling, right up to the present. If Everest gets their accreditation audited, like what happened to Excelsior, good luck in getting your transcripts to be used for license purposes.
Yet Excelsior still touts their nursing program. 14 states (CA is one) have some restrictions now and will require a lot more HOURS to get licensed, whcih means you can't apply as an RN yet. So how is a new grad student with $100's in loan repayments to start paying after 6 months after they get their degree and have hundreds of hours of more nursing related things still to go? It's a vicious cycle. Some flatly said, "sorry, you're out of luck" in their state.
None of the above is breaking news, rather it's all public postings of other people's experiences.
Well the majority of the rip-off reports are simply about people who are graduating cannot find jobs. Although you go to that school you can't solely rely on the institution itself to help you find jobs. It is up to you to find your own career. (there are hundreds of people fresh off 100k+ business schools who are now working in mail rooms of businesses. Furthermore, everest does have work ****** programs where they *********. Can't give out too much information about that..
About the accreditation.. Everest (while it replaced Bryman college) is a relatively new school so they're still working on getting regionally accredited (they're first RN class just graduated last spring). Furthermore regionally accredited just means the validity of transfer of units to a regIonally accredited school. So if ur just After the ADN then it won't matter. The only thing that matters for a state board NCLEX exam is national accreditation. So u will actually be allowed to sit
Now for the last article.. All the article is speculation. Speculation about a school that has a fairly new program. There always be speculation about a school failing if they are always trying to improve they're institution.
One thing about the credit hours you still have to take after graduating from everest is that has never happened to anyone without showing the validity of their story... Nursing board will always let you sit for NCLEX exam as long as you have Completed the necessary credit course from a nationally accredited school. Furthermore, most hospital you will apply for wont even ask for a nursing degree... I know for sure Kaiser and Long Beach Medical never had..
This school is mostly for nurses who are looking for a hassle-free gateway to an ADN who arent straight A students (I know I'm not) and/or military veterans... If people don't like it, I'll be more happy for them to wait 2-5 years in a regionally accredited school. That's up to them
Specializes in school nursing, home health,geriactrics, Tele,ICU.
hi i was wondering how long is the lvn to rn program? i did attend a seesion for information back in aug but all my paper work got lost, i know program is about 57, 000. thanks.
Specializes in school nursing, home health,geriactrics, Tele,ICU.
hi i was wondering how long is the lvn to rn program? i did attend a seesion for information back in aug but all my paper work got lost, i know program is about 57, 000. thanks, i just can not remember how long if you have lvn, i know they said my cost would be much less because i have majority of pre reqs and general ed done
It's half of that.. The only problem is; u can only do the bridge program if a person drops out. They don't reserve seats for lvn-rn bridge unless you start all over again.
I don't see the logic of paying for one of the most expen$ive tuition in the state and applicants bombing on their test. Not surprised, that's the game with some of these for-profit mills.
I don't see the logic of paying for one of the most expen$ive tuition in the state and applicants bombing on their test. Not surprised, that's the game with some of these for-profit mills.
69% pass rate for the NCLEX? Ugh. I took my hesi exam there back on September 14 and finally received a phone call today to schedule my interview with them. Wondering what the long wait was for and now to see the pass rate is very discouraging. Debating if I should even continue with this process or just wait to hear back from the two ADN programs from the community colleges I also applied to. Everest is my backup to the other two programs that each have over 91% pass rates for NCLEX.
Anyone else applying to this school as a last resort/backup like me?
I don't see the logic of paying for one of the most expen$ive tuition in the state and applicants bombing on their test. Not surprised, that's the game with some of these for-profit mills.
A few things here:
First off, the NCLEX pass rate includes ALL students signed up for the test. Everest automatically signs you up for your NCLEX when you graduate, whether or not you actually sit for the NCLEX. I can tell you that 13 students did NOT sit for their NCLEX but were signed up and their zeros were factored in. Out of the rest who took it over 85% passed their boards. Everest is the same as every other nursing school in that you can not graduate unless you can pass your Hesi exits. It is NOT an easy program. The nursing instructors and coursework are very, very tough.
Second, I have never had any hospital employee tell me anything negative about our RN program, in fact, many non RN employees want info on the program!
And some hope for everyone, I have received a very good paying job in a very well known, prominent hospital because of the experience I have received thus far in my nursing program, and I'm only half way through. And they like the fact that I want to stay there once I get my RN degree.
In the end the education is only what you make of it no matter where you go. For me it was a choice between finishing my RN in 7 years a lot cheaper or 2 years with 30 grand in debt (got a good amount of f.a). Doing the math Everest made more sense for me personally, and I was lucky enough to get in.
It is a lot of money. It is not cheap. But its a decision that you just have to weigh the pros and cons on. Good luck to all of us future nurses on here :)
BennyRNCA
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Yes, to KDM, most of the students going with these for-profit campuses and courses, don't realized the HUGH financial inpact on their lives later on. They are just so glad and happy to get accepted, the financial aid people are touting the easy financing and the schools themselves boast about the high paying salaries and the big demand for nurses and still doing it today. Notice all these Yahoo and MSN articles about what degrees and what the hottest jobs are, one is usually the nursing profession, but notice also on the side of these articles, guess who's sponsoring them? I call it misleading marketing.
I can tell you as a matter of fact, many of these financial aid employees are or once selling used cars, my cousin was one a couple of years ago, but could not take the guilt feeling once he got people to sign up. They can jack up the interest rate in some loans and so they make more in commissions, he did quit working for these places, even with the easy money to made.
But the reality is that after graduation the student is saddled with a very large debt load. They feel that once they get started in their first or second year, they can't quit now and just add on more loans, of which the financial aid will gladly find for you at a price. The one friend who is still looking for a nursing job after one year, has a loan repayment of $726 a month. Of her 6 other friends, they have loan payments ranging from $674 to $1,283 for the next 10 to 15 years. Realize that those coming off the CSU and UC schools are nowhere near these much higher loan balance amounts and at better interest rates.
Some were thinking of declaring bankruptcy, but any of these student loans are not able to be discharged by the court system. They plan to wipe out their credit cards debts just so they can make the student loan payments, and even under the new repayment plan based on your income is still a heavy hit every month. What makes it all the worse, their friends who did not take the for-profit courses are working now, some still not in the nursing side but at least, they have their smaller loan payments and much more managable.
Some were counting on getting a nursing profession loan forgiveness, but that's real wishful thinking and better off playing the lottery. It is possible in some cases, but need to find a job first and that does offer these programs.
That's why we were giving out advice to the others who wanted to get into nursing, but was wait-listed, wanted to jump into this very hot job market and took the easy way out. Knowing what they know now, do you think they would do it over again? We warned them and no one put a gun to their head or put fire under their feet to sign those loan papers. We also blame the marketing of these for-profit places and they should quit painting the rosy pictures. I bet their graduate hiring rates is very low compared to the other colleges. Yes, some may get hired in from the for-profit, thru connections, but thoswe are even fewer and far in between.
The instructors of course don't want to lose their extra money they make for retirement fun or keep the family's finances in check. I don't blame them so much, it's the for-profit owners and managment team that keeps this going. The for-profits are flooding the market place without any concerns of the real working world, but their TV ads and on-line and print media budget must be hugh to keep it from collapsing.
Well, off my soapbox and hope I've adviced others to really know what you're getting yourself into and draw your own conclusions. Best wishes to all!!