I know there are already a couple of posts for this school, but reading through the threads I didn't get all the information that I was looking for and considering that they are pretty old threads I made a new one because I didn't think anyone would look at those anymore. I've already completed all my prereqs at a community college, but I don't want to wait around forever to get into the community college rn program.
Anyways, I wanted to find out for those who are already in the program or have the info. What kind of studying should I do for their entrance exam? What kind of stuff comes in the tests. I also would like to know the cost or estimated cost of the school. And how do they go about choosing the students for the program? What exactly is the application process?
I've already called the school, but the lady that answered the phone wasn't able to give me much info except for that info sessions are in August and the program starts up again in January.
And if you are already in the program, I would like to know how to do you find the teachers to be?? Would you say that this is a good academic choice??
Please help me as I live really far away from this school and I am moving out there just for the program. It is a little difficult for me to just drive over to visit the school. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
My response was a constructive statement to a prospective student of Everest. I'm only relating what was told to me after I sat in for the sales pitch. I also wanted to get my nursing degree as quickly as possible and was willing to pay for it. Luckily I learned that several Cal State schools and a private grad school I was interested in wouldn't touch the degree with a ten foot pole before I was into it for the $30,000. That my friend, is constructive and if it inspires someone to dig deeper into their future goals and demand the full scoop from Everest regarding accreditation (WASC vs ACICS) and consult with admissions counselors from advanced programs, then they will have made an informed decision to deter their own enrollment from the program. I'm not that powerful.
There are and have been other schools which will take Everest's ADN for their higher degree programs the same as an ADN from a jc. And yes, even some Cal States. Is it harder to transfer without WASC accreditation? Yeah, of course, tech schools are not regionally accredited. Does that means it's impossible? NO it does not.
If someone isn't able to get their BSN/MSN after their Everest ADN it will be because they chose not to, not because the opportunity isn't available. One must do their own research on what type of nursing they wish to enter and what schooling will be required for it. If their Everest degree isn't going to work towards that then, no they shouldn't attend Everest it would have been pointless. But if they are looking to obtain their RN license, BSN or MSN Everest will work for them.
Well there, you just reiterated what I wrote in your second paragraph. Best of luck to you. I look forward to seeing what comes next for you if you should choose to continue your education.
Thank you for your response. I have been studying everyday, math I don't think will be an issue for me as well, I'm just nervous about the grammar and vocabulary portion. Also I cant remember after reading through 50 some pages of this thread, does the anatomy and physiology score count towards admission?
I have looked into my many ELMSN programs and 2nd BSN program but they are just so competitive and I still have 2 uncompleted prereq classes to take which take me a year to complete than I would have to wait a whole year to apply. I just want to be a nurse already!
I have looked into my many ELMSN programs and 2nd BSN program but they are just so competitive and I still have 2 uncompleted prereq classes to take which take me a year to complete than I would have to wait a whole year to apply. I just want to be a nurse already!
I didn't get a notification you'd responded, sorry, I wasn't ignoring you. I *really* hope your haste to complete "any" nursing program doesn't result in a limited future for building on your degree or worse, having to repeat portions of it in order to build on it. My friend is at West Coast University, which is accredited similarly to Everest, and already knows after she spends $150K on her BSN she will have to repeat most of it to get the MSN she wants. Steep price in time and money to be a nurse "now".
I didn't get a notification you'd responded, sorry, I wasn't ignoring you. I *really* hope your haste to complete "any" nursing program doesn't result in a limited future for building on your degree or worse, having to repeat portions of it in order to build on it. My friend is at West Coast University, which is accredited similarly to Everest, and already knows after she spends $150K on her BSN she will have to repeat most of it to get the MSN she wants. Steep price in time and money to be a nurse "now".
Apgar... what you must understand is that most people who go to these vocational private schools are not looking to get a BSN or MSN or a PhD... all they want to do is go through the program so they can start working as RNs.. Even with people who go through the public schools (cypress, cerritos, santa ana) many are not even looking to further their education because most can find jobs in hospitals where they can make a lot of money. A perfect example is my sister.. She went through the cypress program a few years back, straight A student and graduated cum-laude out of her class... When she applied for a job at Kaiser, they didn't even ask her what school she graduated from. Just her NCLEX results.. Now (after only 2 years) she makes over a 150k a year at kaiser and I asked her if it was necessarry for me to further my education after an ADN and she said, if I did I would have to go all the way to the top (MSN or PhD) just to match what she would be making now (nurse Anaesthesists start at 120k at her work). After that I realized if I wanted to get a MSN or PhD, I should've just became a doctor. A nurse is one of the few jobs out there where one can make a lot of money with very little degree requirements. Now Apgar.. the way you seem to talk down to students choosing these so-called "diploma mill" means, your probably attending a public school or a UC school. Either way, I suggest that you shouldn't go out and criticize other students who want to take a more faster approach to becoming a nurse. If you have anymore doubts about these "diploma mills," my co-worker's wife is an Everest Alumni and she makes over 250k a year working in labor and delivery.
Apgar... what you must understand is that most people who go to these vocational private schools are not looking to get a BSN or MSN or a PhD... all they want to do is go through the program so they can start working as RNs...
Having read through quite a few of these threads and participated in them as a prospective student of Evergreen and West Coast at one time, I see there is occasionally someone who wants a higher degree and should know the potential limitation based on a degree earned at an ACICS institution versus a WASC institution.
Now Apgar.. the way you seem to talk down to students choosing these so-called "diploma mill" means, your probably attending a public school or a UC school.
Providing information based on my experiences with info sessions at both Evergreen and West Coast and having investigated the UC/CSU transfer options = talking down?
Either way, I suggest that you shouldn't go out and criticize other students who want to take a more faster approach to becoming a nurse.
Information does not equal criticism.
If you have anymore doubts about these "diploma mills," my co-worker's wife is an Everest Alumni and she makes over 250k a year working in labor and delivery.
There is no doubt someone who graduates from the "diploma mill" (as you refer to them) will be eligible to sit for NCLEX, get a license, and get a job.
Having read through quite a few of these threads and participated in them as a prospective student of Evergreen and West Coast at one time, I see there is occasionally someone who wants a higher degree and should know the potential limitation based on a degree earned at an ACICS institution versus a WASC institution.
OCASSIONALLY is not often is it? I too have heard many students talking about furthering their education in my prereqs classes... sad to say none of them decided to go throught with it. My sister was an aspiring NP and decided there is no point since its just nursing. There are many who start with aspirations as those but all too often they do not follow through with it because Nursing was meants to be just a degree program and not a separate instution as some other medical professions (pharmacy, doctors...)
Providing information based on my experiences with info sessions at both Evergreen and West Coast and having investigated the UC/CSU transfer options = talking down?
Opinion is not information. Especially if you start talking about your personal experience. :lol2:Information is purely-based fact. -_- YES and you are talking down on them especially with your tone.... BTW UC/CSU transfer options are incredibly stupid since they require you to have a bachelor degree in something you don't even need (BS in Health Science just to get into a nursing program in CSU fullerton >_>)
Information does not equal criticism.
It DOES when you start comparing them to your friends experiences. They way you refer to your friend makes the reader think you are critisising them for choosing that route
There is no doubt someone who graduates from the "diploma mill" (as you refer to them) will be eligible to sit for NCLEX, get a license, and get a job.
ai yah there is no doubt they can ::sigh:: appearantly they can cause they have the certificate for it..... All you have to do is provide information about the accredited program you have taken, Picture ID and proof that you have completed necessary pre-reqs to be able to take NCLEX ::sigh:: :)
-BTW the reason I said diploma mill because I know you would say it eventually (by how you keep ranting about admission costs) ::sigh::
150k? 250k? with only an RN?! What are the titles of these positions?!!
My sister makes 150k working for kaiser in Anaheim in the OR and she's been out of college since '07. Then my co-workers wife works for a hospital in long beach (forgot which one, will tell u tomorrow when I work) in Labor and delivery for 20+ years( reason she makes so much is because she's on-call). Both have ADNs and both refused to get a bachelors because they make more money than their supervisors who are on salary. Now remember, reason they make so much is that they have at least 2 days overtime every week and after 60th hour it becomes triple pay.
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There are and have been other schools which will take Everest's ADN for their higher degree programs the same as an ADN from a jc. And yes, even some Cal States. Is it harder to transfer without WASC accreditation? Yeah, of course, tech schools are not regionally accredited. Does that means it's impossible? NO it does not.
If someone isn't able to get their BSN/MSN after their Everest ADN it will be because they chose not to, not because the opportunity isn't available. One must do their own research on what type of nursing they wish to enter and what schooling will be required for it. If their Everest degree isn't going to work towards that then, no they shouldn't attend Everest it would have been pointless. But if they are looking to obtain their RN license, BSN or MSN Everest will work for them.