Published Oct 23, 2007
bagladyrn, RN
2,286 Posts
There is a thread going on on the OB forum right now concerning the safety of administering epidurals through a tatoo. Apparently some anesthesia providers won't do them if it is necessary to go through an inked area.
I was wondering what you all know about this and what your experience has been.
Thanks!
MikeyJ, RN
1,124 Posts
My brother is a tattoo artist and he tells his female clients that same thing, but I know of family and friends who had lower back tattoo's who were able to get epidurals. I have always wondered the same thing though...
deepz
612 Posts
http://www.snopes.com/medical/drugs/tattoo.asp
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PRESLA
129 Posts
]Were I have worked depends on MD younger ones will place an epidural where a tat is but the older ones won't go near them. I also worked 3rd and the older MD's got pissed if called in the middle of the night for an epidural so they would us anything for an excuse not to place one. :trout:
Lisa
Summitk2
145 Posts
]...depends on MD...
Yes, and it probably depends on the NURSE ANESTHETIST too. Did you notice what forum you're posting in?
]CRNA's at the hospital I had worked at would have had a DUCK if they had to place an epidural in a labor pt. They got pissed off if they had to get up out of bed for a c-section during the night.
crnabrian
30 Posts
Certainly the patient can have an epidural or spinal, as long as it is not a fresh tattoo. Barring other contraindications, of course.
JoeCRNA
17 Posts
As a matter of practice, I do not place epidurals through tattoo ink.
The verdict remains out and although the risk is probably small, why take a chance...especially with an elective procedure.
However, there is typically an interspace that is not inked or there is clear skin close enough to an interspace that it can be stretched over the interspace and the needle and catheter subsequently placed through clear skin.
I have placed many catheters right between the antennae of a butterfly or through the centers of many a letter.
MIM_RN
31 Posts
When I was in labor with my first child, my anesthesia provider refused to administer an epidural because I had a tattoo in this region. He finally did so, after lots of discussion. (I honestly think he was ticked off because he had to wake up from his nap to administer it.) When having my second child, a different provider did not hesitate to administer it.
CRNA2007
657 Posts
What I was taught was if the tattoo was older than 6 months it was fine, but I was also told that they have new acrylic dyes for tattoos, and that you are not suppose to give an epidural or spinal through them.
Some advice for a new CRNA, being a licensed advanced practitioner "I was taught..." is not a good enough rationale for anything. The standard of care, the evidence shows, etc. are rationales. We are not minions to our teachers (whether they be MDA, CRNA, or whoever), we are well trained, independently licensed, well read, mindful professionals, who act on behalf of our patients best interests.
rph3664
1,714 Posts
I live in an area with a lot of D.O.s Don't forget them either.