Elizabeth Warren says doctors, nurses don't treat black women same way as other women

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Is it bash medical professions month and I just didn't realize it?

Don't get me wrong I do believe that prejudice exists but according to Ms. Warren, the only concievable reason for the increased materials deaths in African American women is due to doctors and nurses being prejudice. This is absolutely ludicrous.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/politics/elizabeth-warren-doctors-nurses-black-women.amp

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5 hours ago, NurseBlaq said:

Girl bye! You literally dismissed the whole premise of people being discriminated against then tried to replace it with your own perception of being discriminated against. And you being nonBlack or Native is evident by the fact that's who you chose to dismiss. Move around with that nonsense.

Better yet, let me mute you and move on.

Girl it's not worth it. This conversation has gotten personal. We don't need to use our personal experience to prove the research is correct. It's embedded in our countries history and current events. Some people will never understand which is why the problem of disparities in Healthcare continues to exist. In fact why racism against minorities in general continue to exist.

All we can do is put the information... The statistics and research out there. No one can dispute that AA women and children have higher mortality rates. No one can dispute the perceptions of minorities. Some people are actually listening and applying it to practice. Measuring outcomes are the only way we can see change.

I'd like to add that most people here have accepted the research. Hopefully that's representative of our nursing population.

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1 hour ago, nursingpower said:

Girl it's not worth it. This conversation has gotten personal. We don't need to use our personal experience to prove the research is correct. It's embedded in our countries history and current events. Some people will never understand which is why the problem of disparities in Healthcare continues to exist. In fact why racism against minorities in general continue to exist.

All we can do is put the information... The statistics and research out there. No one can dispute that AA women and children have higher mortality rates. No one can dispute the perceptions of minorities. Some people are actually listening and applying it to practice. Measuring outcomes are the only way we can see change.

I'd like to add that most people here have accepted the research. Hopefully that's representative of our nursing population.

Indeed. All truth.

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What’s a materials death?

I am a white deputy prosecuting attorney. I am intentionally aware of how my profession continues to promote & protect white supremacy. I do my level best to ensure I'm not compounding the harm the criminal justice system does to Black people and people of color. I can only do that if I acknowledge that systemic racism and implicit bias exist and my actions may be influenced by them.

I'm shocked at how quick people are to insist that they are never racist and they treat all of their patients the same. That's the thing with implicit bias: you're not consciously aware you're acting on it. Insisting you're not a racist prevents you from being anti-racist.

Nurses are the toughest & most pro-active people I've encountered in the medical profession. Perhaps instead of getting all butt-hurt about someone stating that people in your profession treat Black women differently - something borne out by research - you should address the bias. The problem isn't the messenger here, it's your inability to heed the message.

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On 2/9/2020 at 8:40 PM, Kooky Korky said:

I think it's biased to say that everyone has biases.

I believe biases are just human nature. The difference is that when the bias stems from white supremacy it kills Black people & POC. I'm in a profession that has done incredible harm to Black people, and I cannot hope to lessen that harm unless I acknowledge that I've been indoctrinated into white supremacy.

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On 4/26/2019 at 6:56 PM, Kallie3006 said:

Is it bash medical professions month and I just didn't realize it?

Don't get me wrong I do believe that prejudice exists but according to Ms. Warren, the only concievable reason for the increased materials deaths in African American women is due to doctors and nurses being prejudice. This is absolutely ludicrous.

https://www.Google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/politics/elizabeth-warren-doctors-nurses-black-women.amp


I don’t see this as bashing. She’s stating a fact. Check out this Article: https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2019/05/10/722143121/why-racial-gaps-in-maternal-mortality-persist

It does a good job outlining how bias plays into the care a person receives. I’ve seen this in practice and heard stories about it from patients’ families. This isn’t something to get defensive about. Consider it and how you interact with patients. We could improve the profession by being open to this. If this makes you uncomfortable, maybe you should ask yourself why?

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Specializes in Supervisor.

From the article: "“That doctors and nurses don't hear African American women's medical issues the same way that they hear the same things from white women.”

Apparently Elizabeth would like awaken the hell fire and brimstone that resides deep within the nursing profession.

I don't care if you're black, white, brown, etc.

I don't care if you're a drug addict or sober lunatic.

I don't care if you're male or female.

No matter your life or socioeconomic circumstances. I don't care.

You get my meds, my care, and my utmost attention equally.

Not because I'm legally obligated to but that's the right thing to do.

This blanket statement is pure ignorance...

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Then you are an amazing outlier. Everyone has bias and there’s documented disparities in care in healthcare- doesn’t mean it’s malicious. Acknowledging it though can help move the needle.

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