Elderly Couple die from using oven as source of heat

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Hi everyone,

Please read the below article. It is such a needless shame and everyone should be outraged.

We have had an early fall here in the Northeast so remind your patients and family members that live in apartments that leaving their natural gas oven is not a safe way to heat their apartment.

Also, is it just me or is the attitude of the housing authority a bit laissez faire? What exactly do they expect people on limited incomes and especially elderly people who are prone to cold and chills to do?

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Pittsburgh Post Gazette

Elderly McKeesport couple die after using oven for heat

Wednesday, October 08, 2003

By Mike Bucsko, Post-Gazette Staff Writer

To cope with the unseasonably chilly nights the past couple of weeks, Carolyn Weber and many of her neighbors in a McKeesport elderly high-rise opened the doors of their ovens and turned them on because the building's heating system was not operational.

James and Edna Saylor were no different.

But the couple's use of the stove to heat their fifth-floor apartment in the Steel View Manor high-rise had fatal consequences.

The Saylors -- he was 79 and she 74 -- who had lived in the 88-unit building since 2001, were found dead shortly after noon yesterday. An autopsy is scheduled today to determine the exact causes of death.

Police offered a preliminarily conclusion yesterday that the couple had died when their apartment filled with natural gas after the pilot light of their oven went out.

The bodies were found after their son alerted the McKeesport Housing Authority yesterday that he had tried unsuccessfully to reach his parents by telephone for the past few days.

Beatrice Larkins, who lives in the apartment next door to the Saylors, said she did not smell any gas until housing authority workers arrived and opened the door to 5A, the couple's apartment.

On Monday, residents of the sixth floor reported a gas odor to the building's maintenance workers. The source of the odor was not detected, said Allegheny County police Detective Scott Scherer.

The Saylors apparently died sometime in the middle of the day Saturday, Scherer said. The morning newspaper was inside the couple's apartment, but the day's mail was still outside, he said.

Inside the apartment, police found the oven door open, the heat set to 350 degrees and the pilot light out. The overnight temperature Friday was in the mid-40s.

The Saylors were among dozens of residents in the high-rise who resorted to an alternative source of heat because the authority had not yet gotten the building's new boilers on line.

The lack of heat has been a source of irritation to many residents recently.

"I told them [last week] that I'm not paying my rent until I get some heat in the building," said Gloria Bauerschmidt, who has lived in the high-rise for two years. "I paid it anyway and I'm still cold."

Bauerschmidt, Weber and other residents complained that the boiler project, which began in May, has taken too long and the residents' needs have been disregarded by the authority management.

"They could have gotten those little [space] heaters for us or something," Weber said.

Officially, the authority was not planning to turn on the heat in the high-rise until Oct. 20, a date which, under normal weather conditions, should have been sufficient for the residents, said John Kooser Jr., the housing authority's executive director.

Installation of the new boilers is part of a $650,000 contract to replace boilers in Steel View Manor and Eisbir Manor, Kooser said. The boilers in Steel View Manor were examined yesterday by a state inspector and are ready to be fired up, he said.

Housing authority officials are well aware that residents resort to using their ovens for heat when they are cold, though the use of ovens for that purpose is unauthorized under tenant regulations, Kooser said.

"We've known about it forever, and it's illegal for families to use the stove for heat," Kooser said. "But it doesn't make any difference ... the poor souls are gone."

Kooser said the Saylors' deaths should serve as an example to others who are considering the use of their ovens for heat.

"It's not the cold or the lack of heat or anything else that killed this family," he said. "It was the terrible mistake to use the oven to heat their apartment."

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Originally posted by purplemania

I think it is very inconsiderate of the weather not to wait till Oct. 20th when the housing authority expected to have heat available. (NOT)

What a tragedy. If I owned that bldg. would I be liable for neglect????

Probably only if you were a nurse....

(Sorry; I'm feeling very "trod upon" today.)

This happened about 10 miles from my house, max. What a horrible thing! It has been quite cold here, quite early.

I read about and felt very bad when it happened during the cold snap. I am sure the family will sue. My question to the family member that sue is "where were you when these people were sitting in their apartment and freezing?" On the other hand it was the height of neglect for the managers of those buildings to go home and turn on their own heat knowing that hundreds of people who were their responsibility had no heat. There were many alternative ways to deal with this situation and it does not appear that anyone did a darn thing.

Perhaps the children did not realize their parents were without heat since it is probably included in the rent which means you should be able to turn your heat on anytime.

If utilities are included they should be available 24/7 even if it is 100'

This is neglect and awful.

I had this same argument with my landlord once and I went to the LandLord and Tenents Act and they forced the landlord to turn my heat on in August. I didn't realize my furnace wasn't turned onn until then as I moved in in July

What an awful thing for the elderly to have to go through

We had an ice storm in 1997/98. It knocked out power all over the place in Ontario and Quebec. Many people died from carbon monoxide, and gas poisoning ,from using ovens used in an enclosed space, with no ventilation. :o Very sad.

Z

Specializes in Geriatrics, Pediatrics, Home Health.

Quote"It's not the cold or the lack of heat or anything else that killed this family," he said. "It was the terrible mistake to use the oven to heat their apartment." end Quote

From the article. he claims it wasn't the cold or lack of heat, then turns around and says it was a mistake to HEAT their apartment using the oven!!?? HUH?

My mother and father use their kitchen stove to heat their house. They also use kerosene heaters and electric/propane heaters for their bathroom. Their house is old and drafty so I don't worry about carbon monoxide poisoning. They also used a wood burning stove for years.

I smell a lawsuit against these people and I hope the tenants win. That can be considered abuse/neglect...especially if it happens to a child. [Parents heating the house w/ oven, portable heaters etc.]

This kinda crap makes me SO ANGRY I can't see straight! Do the landlords think that ADULTS don't know when they are cold??? I can maybe understand not knowing they were hot but come on...there is NO excuse for this. NONE!!!!

I live in the area where this happened and Knew the family. It is such a shame! How many of our elderly need to die until these landlords are charged??

I saw a report on T.V. on the local news station this weekend. They interviewed the son of the couple. He said that he didn't blame anyone in particular but that he was definately considering suing the landlord/county. I think he meant that he blamed a breakdown in the system. ie. complaints not being heard, the furnace not being operational in time, etc. He was very calm and a good speaker and spoke well of his parents. I felt really bad for him.

I also saw an interview with the supervisor that was quoted in the paper. He remarked the same thing but I could tell through him being choked up and trying to hold back tears he knows that he is at fault, he just doesn't want to admit it, whether because he is guilty or affraid he'll get sued, etc.

At least that was my take on it.

If I were the son I would be OWNING that building. Then I would install a HVAC system with heating AND a/c available year round. It has gotten cold here (low 30's) a few times this fall but I have not had to use the heater yet. However, at least if I do need it, I know it's there and won't need to resort to using the oven. Nobody should ever have to resort to that (well, unless it's an old house and that IS the heating system). It's bad enough when you hear about people dying because of other causes but when someone dies just because they were trying to stay warm because SOMEBODY didn't get the heating system fixed it's even worse. Just makes your heart sink reading about it. :o

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