Doing away with LPNs

frodo · Mar 16, 2005

The staff told me that at our hospital, they tried to do this about 7 years ago. It didn't work, now all they can get are LPN's. The Rn;s are all going to the larger city 50 miles away, who pay a lot more.

spidermonkey · Mar 16, 2005

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graycious · Mar 16, 2005

I have been an Lpn for 16 years I honestly love nursing at times and over these times it goes in like 5 year spurts of wanting to phase out lpns by the way I live in New York it is not gonna happen

You wanna know why first of all it take the average nurse about 5 years to burn out and after they have exhausted all the foreign nurses they talk this utter rubbish

again the old adage nurses eat their young continues to persist

It is not gonna happen

thanks

nickola · Mar 17, 2005

I've worked in 7 hospitals in my career, in 6 different states, and I have never worked w/LPNs, since the first year out of school back in the early 80's. Part of this may be b/c I have worked specialized areas, but in all honesty, I didn't know there were any LPN programs left in the country and I had no idea hospitals still hired LPNs. We would love to have them, as well as CNAs but for some reason admin. seems to think they're saving $$$ to have an all-RN staff- w/all the jobs they have us doing (including housekeeping when short-staffed) we have begged for any kind of ancillary help, but it's not happening! :deadhorse

iamjustmeuc · Mar 17, 2005

Hello, I am in Texas and recently graduated from LVN school in December. I applied for several jobs and had three offers in about two weeks. I chose to work at our County hospital and am working in Neurology. Our school graduated 77 students, and only 25 have found positions. I am very fortunate, becuase our county hospital is not your average hospital. It is a teaching hospital and takes it very seriously. There are many LVN positions here, but why they are not filled, I don't know. They do state that applications are down. We have a new nursing practice act which is wonderful here in Texas. LVNs will always be members of our team.

LPNer · Mar 18, 2005

I've worked in 7 hospitals in my career, in 6 different states, and I have never worked w/LPNs, since the first year out of school back in the early 80's. Part of this may be b/c I have worked specialized areas, but in all honesty, I didn't know there were any LPN programs left in the country and I had no idea hospitals still hired LPNs. We would love to have them, as well as CNAs but for some reason admin. seems to think they're saving $$$ to have an all-RN staff- w/all the jobs they have us doing (including housekeeping when short-staffed) we have begged for any kind of ancillary help, but it's not happening! :deadhorse

LPNs are nurses with a different scope of practice than the RNs. We are NOT ancillary help! Just as there are things Docs do that RNs can not do, there are things RNs can do that LPNs can not. LOL, that does not make us ancillary HELP.

Good grief, and you even mentioned you had never worked with LPNs. How could you say something like that not even knowing what you are talking aboue.

I found your statement terribly insulting!

nefretery · Mar 18, 2005

in one of the wealthiest counties in the whole USA the largest hospital laid off all the LPN's (some with more than 20 years at that facillity)

they all ahd jobs the same day , manny with more pay. this same facility only has one RT for 400 bed after 7 pm (admin hopes their mom isn't there at night I guess)

face it the business of healthcare will come around and LPN's will be in the acute care arena again because we are cheaper. Be patient , professional and do the job better than the next person and you will always find good work.

how about the salary for LPN , here in NJ the shortage of good nurses had brought avg salary to $21-$28 / hr is this trend nationwide?

keito · Mar 23, 2005

Hello all,

I have a two questions.

Question #1 I am reading all about LPN verses LVN, but dont really uderstand what the difference is, and if NYS allows them.

Question #2 I have been an EMT for many years (over 10) in NYS, and am looking too maybe taking one of the above mentioned classes, one that may allow me to use my current education time, and give credit for life experiences. I have heard of LPN programs in NYC that are stripped down bare bones, classes that get you ready to take the state exam.

If any one can help me, that would be great,

Thanks

UnewmeB4 · Mar 23, 2005

I am with a hospital in Idaho right now which has LPNs and RNs working together in pods. They just called a meeting saying they are going to try and do away with LPNs hospital wide because there charting is not being covered by the RNs and there is too much grey area in there scope of practice. I think this is a huge mistake and the hosptial is going to lose a lot of great nurses. Has anyone experienced this or have feelings on it?

I am an RN, who reassured the LPNS in our hospital that "They will never get rid of you. You are cheaper to have around that we are!" I was wrong. The hospital gave them the option of working in Resp or IV team, or doing lab draws. The hospital trained them, and that is what they are doing. For me, it was extremely disappointing, as we had a great crew on the floor I worked on It was like losing a right arm.

The local Catholic hospital is making them the "wound care nurses", not allowing them to pass meds, and cutting the pay of those who were being paid quite well while there was a shortage of RNS. I am thinking it also has to do with working to achieve Magnet status?

txspadequeenRN, BSN, RN · Mar 23, 2005

Are you working at JPS in Ft Worth?

Hello, I am in Texas and recently graduated from LVN school in December. I applied for several jobs and had three offers in about two weeks. I chose to work at our County hospital and am working in Neurology. Our school graduated 77 students, and only 25 have found positions. I am very fortunate, becuase our county hospital is not your average hospital. It is a teaching hospital and takes it very seriously. There are many LVN positions here, but why they are not filled, I don't know. They do state that applications are down. We have a new nursing practice act which is wonderful here in Texas. LVNs will always be members of our team.

AdobeRN · Mar 23, 2005

Hello, I am in Texas and recently graduated from LVN school in December. I applied for several jobs and had three offers in about two weeks. I chose to work at our County hospital and am working in Neurology. Our school graduated 77 students, and only 25 have found positions. I am very fortunate, becuase our county hospital is not your average hospital. It is a teaching hospital and takes it very seriously. There are many LVN positions here, but why they are not filled, I don't know. They do state that applications are down. We have a new nursing practice act which is wonderful here in Texas. LVNs will always be members of our team.

Where do you work? I live in the north texas area and currently in LVN school scheduled to graduate mid July. We attended a career fair yesterday and I came away from it very discouraged. Many of the hospitals at the fair did not hire LVN's or if they did you had to be in a bridge program for them to consider you for employment.