The way that this Covid vaccine works is quite different from the flu shot. The Covid vax. is not a (dead) bacteria or virus being injected into your body. (With Pfizer & Moderna) RNA (called messenger RNA) that's been coded in a lab goes into your arm. The RNA has instructions, or a code, that gets deposited on the cell. The ribosomes of the cell make a spike protein. It looks similar to the spike protein on the surface of the actual Corona virus. Then your body is supposed to make antibodies (antigens) that goes after the spike protein and neutralize it.
The problem is that this has not been tested in any long-term studies, so, this is more of an experiment. We don't know whether or not the DNA gets permanently changed (possibly bad). We're talking about something that's not supposed to be in your body (made in a lab) that can bind to the surface of your cells and possibly may not be able to be reversed.
Also, since the drug is still being evaluated for long term adverse effects, pregnancy, etc., the FDA would not license the drug, but instead, put out as EUA... Emergency Use Authorization.
Physiciansforlife.org that's not conspiracy . Bill Gates' father was the head of Planned Parenthood at one point in his life. That did happen. I don't make this up.
Bill Gate's father was never "the head" of Planned Parenthood, he was on the board of various local charities in Seattle, WA, including those that provided charitable healthcare services to women such as planned parenthood.
You are making this up, because you are an absolutely horrible person.
Look I don't find amusement in making this crap up. Look at the video at 3 minutes and 50 seconds Bill Gates says so himself in an interview that his dad was the head of Planned Parenthood.
Look I don't find amusement in making this crap up. Look at the video at 3 minutes and 50 seconds Bill Gates says so himself in an interview that his dad was the head of Planned Parenthood.
His dad worked on the local boards of a number of charities, including planned parenthood.
Look I don't find amusement in making this crap up. Look at the video at 3 minutes and 50 seconds Bill Gates says so himself in an interview that his dad was the head of Planned Parenthood.
The bigger issue is that what you're implying, is that the purpose of the Covid-19 vaccine is to kill people, which without some level of evidence should be called what it is; reckless endangerment of public health with the intent to cause avoidable deaths.
According to your credentials you "Specializes in Critical Care. Has 20 years experience." Do you still work in ICU? Have friends who work in ICU? Share from what you know and have learned about COVID-19. I read everything I get about COVID and the vaccine from news casts, news notifications I get on my phone, from Medplus, AACN Critical Care emails, ANA free webinars, CDC website, RN friends' posts about their experiences working in the hospital (one worked on a COVID unit), anti-vax posts from other friends, and from talking to friends, coworkers, clients and their families about their experiences and thoughts pertaining to the pandemic. I would recommend you to do as much research on both sides of the debate about the vaccine with a critical thinking and scientific approach but you will have your own personal experiences and beliefs that will be an influence. If you personally believe that vaccines has caused the increase of autism and other medical conditions seen in children and young adults then likely you may lean away from the vaccine. I would also suggest maybe talking to a colleague who has gotten the vaccine or is a strong supporter of the vaccine to find out why they are so strongly for the vaccine and talk to a colleague who is against vaccines to find out why they are against vaccines. Once you gather a bunch of information and understanding from both sides then you will likely feel more competent and knowledgeable about the vaccine options for COVID. You may not be a supporter of the vaccine and that's okay.
HAHAHAHA! You have NO idea. I am not going to get into a pissing contest about who I know or what I do or who I talk to or what I read. That's an insulting bunch of malarkey. I will NEVER EVER get into a debate about what one "personal believes" about this vaccine. I don't care. I go with scientific evidence.
Methinks you need to get off your high horse and think critically about science. Period.
Done with this thread. Reminds me why I went away from this site for a decade. Now I remember. Wish this thread would get shut down.
HAHAHAHA! You have NO idea. I am not going to get into a pissing contest about who I know or what I do or who I talk to or what I read. That's an insulting bunch of malarkey. I will NEVER EVER get into a debate about what one "personal believes" about this vaccine. I don't care. I go with scientific evidence.
Methinks you need to get off your high horse and think critically about science. Period.
Done with this thread. Reminds me why I went away from this site for a decade. Now I remember. Wish this thread would get shut down.
You are free to not participate in this discussion. But wishing this thread would get shut down is not the answer. Don't cancel our speech.
Once you gather a bunch of information and understanding from both sides then you will likely feel more competent and knowledgeable about the vaccine options for COVID.
And again, how DARE you question my competency! Who are you to do that?
The bigger issue is that what you're implying, is that the purpose of the Covid-19 vaccine is to kill people, which without some level of evidence should be called what it is; reckless endangerment of public health with the intent to cause avoidable deaths.
Why do you always change the subject? Was his father the head of PP? Yes or no?
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And again, how DARE you question my competency! Who are you to do that?
Is this the part where you take your ball and go home?
Is this the part where you take your ball and go home?
Like I posted earlier, one cannot change the way another thinks. All we can do is change the way we react to it. If that translates into taking my ball and going home so be it,
And this is not about free speech. This is about telling the truth based on scientific evidence. The question was, does the covid-19 vaccine mess with our DNA. NO it does not. That the conversation got so incredibly convoluted is just dumb.
Why do you always change the subject? Was his father the head of PP? Yes or no?
Is this the part where you take your ball and go home?
No, he was never the "head of PP", someone who serves on the board of a local PP board is a long way removed from being the "head of PP".
But again, I get your hesitance your hesitance to actually state what you are trying to imply by suggesting that false claim, so what is the point you're trying to make again?
No, he was never the "head of PP", someone who serves on the board of a local PP board is a long way removed from being the "head of PP".
This is a direct quote from his son, Bill Gates.
Responding to a question by Moyers on how he came to fund “reproductive issues” Gates answered, “When I was growing up, my parents were always involved in various volunteer things. My dad was head of Planned Parenthood. And it was very controversial to be involved with that. And so it’s fascinating. At the dinner table my parents are very good at sharing the things that they were doing. And almost treating us like adults, talking about that.”
Is his son making this up? He must be because you clearly know more than him in this regard.
so it is a pissing contest to you too. Disgusting. PP has nothing to do with anything in this discussion. There are people like you who will bring it in though to serve your own agenda and as a nurse, it disgusts me.
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Bill Gate's father was never "the head" of Planned Parenthood, he was on the board of various local charities in Seattle, WA, including those that provided charitable healthcare services to women such as planned parenthood.
You are making this up, because you are an absolutely horrible person.