Does the CES from CGFNS require local board?

[JaniceLM]

On the CGFNS requires for CES it indicates that they will evaluate your licensure from your origin country where you got your education. Does this mean that if you don't have license local boards in philippines that they won't do a CES for me?

If CES is required for every state to obtain licensure by exam then how can I be a nurse in the states without having local board exam here first?

[jeffyjay]

what explanation can i give them...can i say i just did not take the local board on purpose or can i say i want to work in the u.s and not in the philippines that's why i did not take the local board.?

[RNHawaii34]

what explanation can i give them...can i say i just did not take the local board on purpose or can i say i want to work in the u.s and not in the philippines that's why i did not take the local board.?

yes you can. they will not hold it against you. many had done it before.

[john83, BSN, RN]

I think vermont BON doesnt require a local license from a home country like the Philippines, if you dont have one just explain it to a letter to them.

They do not, however, if you are a foreign nurse grad, I think you'll need to have some experience, I'm not sure how many hours are needed and when it's going to be needed etc...Just check the VT BON website or contact them directly for more info.

[suzanne4, RN]

Just to clear up a couple of things that have been posted and are incorrect.:

1. Licensure in the local country is not needed, if the NLE is not taken, then a letter why you did not take it.

2. Licensure is required only if taking the CGFNS exam, for NCLEX only, it is not required.

3. There are only a handful of states that require the CGFNS exam and you cannot endorse without having it.

4. You are not required to have experience as a foreign nurse to get a job in the US. There is no license requirement in any state that requires that.

5. Letter stating that you do not plan to work in your home country usually will suffice, and that you will be working in the US only.

Please take the time to read the specifics for each state, and do not read anything into it that is not there.

6. NY does not require the local exam for licensure. The CVS does not require the local license.

7. US government does not require a local license, only a completed set of transcripts.

[RNHawaii34]

they do not, however, if you are a foreign nurse grad, i think you'll need to have some experience, i'm not sure how many hours are needed and when it's going to be needed etc...just check the vt bon website or contact them directly for more info.

if you are a foreign graduate nurse, you don't need a work experience from the philippines. even if you have 10-20 years experience from the philippines, you are still consider as a new grad. this has been told and discussed here before. and so i am one of those who do not have a work experience in the philippines and got hired as a new grad.

[john83, BSN, RN]

if you are a foreign graduate nurse, you don't need a work experience from the philippines. even if you have 10-20 years experience from the philippines, you are still consider as a new grad. this has been told and discussed here before. and so i am one of those who do not have a work experience in the philippines and got hired as a new grad.

the person asked about vt application for a foreign grad, please check out page 3 of 5 of the vt foreign nurse application form which can be found at:

http://www.vtprofessionals.org/opr1/nurses/

specifically:

http://vtprofessionals.org/opr1/nurses/forms/foreignnurseapp.pdf

it supports my claim on the work requirement, specifically for foreign grads who wish to apply to vt bon.

[RNHawaii34]

the person asked about vt application for a foreign grad, please check out page 3 of 5 of the vt foreign nurse application form which can be found at:

http://www.vtprofessionals.org/opr1/nurses/

specifically:

http://vtprofessionals.org/opr1/nurses/forms/foreignnurseapp.pdf

it supports my claim on the work requirement, specifically for foreign grads who wish to apply to vt bon.

you can have many years of work experience in the philippines if you want, but it doesn't mean you will be exempted from orientation in the facilities you wish to work, even in vermont. there are many many foreign grads who didn't have any work experience at all, but still able to get licensed in the state of vermont. keep in mind that nursing practice in the u.s. is not the same in the philippines. you are still considered as a new grad when you get here. we have so many things here that we do, that nurses back home are not allowed to do.

[john83, BSN, RN]

you can have many years of work experience in the philippines if you want, but it doesn't mean you will be exempted from orientation in the facilities you wish to work, even in vermont. there are many many foreign grads who didn't have any work experience at all, but still able to get licensed in the state of vermont. keep in mind that nursing practice in the u.s. is not the same in the philippines. you are still considered as a new grad when you get here. we have so many things here that we do, that nurses back home are not allowed to do.

the question at hand was about vt bon application and nothing else. i am merely highlighting the particular work requirement of the vt bon for foreign applicants. if the applicant wishes to ignore it, then it's his/her choice.

[suzanne4, RN]

The question at hand was about VT BON application and nothing else. I am merely highlighting the particular work requirement of the VT BON for foreign applicants. If the applicant wishes to ignore it, then it's his/her choice.

And there are hundreds here that did not even take the NLE exam, and have a VT license. And without the NLE, they cannot get local experience. The same way that you write a letter that you have not taken the NLE, covers the others.

[john83, BSN, RN]

And there are hundreds here that did not even take the NLE exam, and have a VT license. And without the NLE, they cannot get local experience. The same way that you write a letter that you have not taken the NLE, covers the others.

Thanks ma'am Suzanne for the clarification. That is applied for those who have not taken the NLE at all(because they do not want to practice in the RP). How about for those who are licensed Philippine nurses(passed the NLE) or those who have taken it but didn't pass? Will this work requirement for foreign grads now apply?

[suzanne4, RN]

Each state can set any requirements that they want and they can change them whenever they want.

Experience in PI is not nothing like working in the US, even if you have five years of experience there. We do things very differently in the US.

It is the agencies that are telling you that all require two years of experience and that is not so. There are new grads that are getting jobs all of the time. But then now you also have to add in the decrease in the clinical skills that are coming out your country. Too many students per patient, and you do not get a chance to learn the skills that you need.

But this has already been discussed in other threads.

Lets get back to the origianl topic of this thread.

[kanebo]

Each state can set any requirements that they want and they can change them whenever they want.

Experience in PI is not nothing like working in the US, even if you have five years of experience there. We do things very differently in the US.

It is the agencies that are telling you that all require two years of experience and that is not so. There are new grads that are getting jobs all of the time. But then now you also have to add in the decrease in the clinical skills that are coming out your country. Too many students per patient, and you do not get a chance to learn the skills that you need.

But this has already been discussed in other threads.

Lets get back to the origianl topic of this thread.

As requested let us go back to the original topic of this thread...I am having problem with my CES application because they will not start reviewing my credentials not until I submit the License Validation Form. I emailed them and explained that there is no License Validation Form to submit because in the first place I have never taken any Licensure Exam in the past therefore there is no license to validate as indicated in my application form. But this is their repy to me:

Please note that to date, CGFNS has only received a portion of the

documents needed to review your application for the CGFNS Credential

Evaluation Service. We are unable to review your application documents and

prepare your CES Report until we receive the information listed below.

Please be advised that receipt of the documents listed below does NOT

mean that CGFNS has received all of the materials necessasry to prepare

your CES Report; it means only that a credentials review will occur.

The documents still outstanding are as follows:

LICENSE VALIDATION FORM

In order to begin preparing your CES Report, we need to receive the

above-listed completion materials . Be advised that upon receipt and

review of the necessary documentation by CGFNS, preparation and completion

of your CES Report will take up to five weeks.

What must I do? Pls help me.