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In your experience, do male nurses get more respect from providers than females? I have seen examples of this, not always, but enough to make me wonder if it's widespread. How about you, what's your experience?
"However, I can tell you unequivocally that male nurses are routinely discriminated against from the day they enter nursing school until the day they leave the field."
That was your personally experience, and is by no means the norm.
Neither is this one:
In my nursing program, there was only one male student.
The program director had lost a son several years back, and coddled the male student.
She didn't even do anything when a pt fell and was hurt as a direct result of something this student did.
I saw several of his assignments and care plans, and they were terrible- sloppy, with spelling and grammatical errors, and just poorly written. I would have been embarrassed to hand in such work. He always got good grades, though.
Thats exactly why I went back to school for my masters to become an NP, because RNs do not get any respect. I have heard physicians refer to RNs as "the stupid".
Interesting. I've always gotten plenty of respect. The one resident who called me stupid (or something like that) was IMMEDIATELY straightened out by his attending. Generally, you get the respect you've earned.
I have personally seen male nurses take less flak from patients and docs because frankly they are less likely to take it.
I vividly recall a young male ICU nurse telling docs and patients alike if they want to run their mouths or threaten (in the case of the patients) him that they can take it outside right now and he would finish it. He was damn good at his job too.
Alpha males get alpha male respect.
I vividly recall a young male ICU nurse telling docs and patients alike if they want to run their mouths or threaten (in the case of the patients) him that they can take it outside right now and he would finish it. He was damn good at his job too.
Alpha males get alpha male respect.
That kind of behavior is unprofessional. If the best communication tactic he can come up with is let's go outside...that is not good. That said, I will not take abuse or snide remarks. I will tell the person, who I am, what can and cannot be done, and let them know that they can be upset and digress into a circular pattern of discussion but that will not solve their problem and will only delay their care.
I have personally seen male nurses take less flak from patients and docs because frankly they are less likely to take it.I vividly recall a young male ICU nurse telling docs and patients alike if they want to run their mouths or threaten (in the case of the patients) him that they can take it outside right now and he would finish it. He was damn good at his job too.
Alpha males get alpha male respect.
Im all for standing up for yourself, but threatening to "take a patient outside" for running their mouth is clearly crossing the line. I'm skeptical any nurse could do that and keep their job.
Im all for standing up for yourself, but threatening to "take a patient outside" for running their mouth is clearly crossing the line. I'm skeptical any nurse could do that and keep their job.
You don't work where I work. Most of the patients are either drug addicts, from the local jail or just plain violent and abusive. They threaten, not just run their mouths. Even if management didn't like it they have no one to replace him with and he does excellent patient care. He just puts up with 0 BS.
Any other normal place of work would call the police on a good percentage of our patients.
In terms of respect from patients and their families/loved ones, I would say yes. However, I can tell you unequivocally that male nurses are routinely discriminated against from the day they enter nursing school until the day they leave the field. ......Make no mistake about it. Men are routinely harassed and discriminated against in the nursing field. I am living proof
Well, "LPN with an Attitude", perhaps it was YOUR attitude that landed you in all these messes? I find that whenever someone has difficulty with pretty much everyone.....it's not everyone else that has the problem, it's the guy who thinks everyone else is the problem.
As for the content of your post, your experience was YOURS, but not the norm, not by a long shot. I can quote you stories and point you to people who were treated exactly the same as every other student, male or female. I have seen floundering female students and excellent male ones, and vice versa. IOW, I put more faith in there being a problem with ONE person rather than an entire school faculty, year after year ....as well as the administration of every facilty you have tried employment.
I have worked with some excellent male nurses, and ones who were friendly and easy to get along with. Good co-workers, good team players. And I have also worked with some true jerks, real PITAs who felt they were owed more than anyone else on the unit, for varying reasons (none of them valid). Maybe they felt "discriminated against" because their co-workers didn't roll over and give them whatever they wanted, because they simply wanted it. Don't know, don't care, because they weren't worth the value THEY placed on themselves.
"Routine harrassment" because you are a male....or because you are exceptionally difficult to deal with? Based on what you've written here.....I have my guesses.
PhillyFNP, DNP
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Never experienced this in the slightest bit. Sorry that you did. That must be tough.