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Do you ever sit and wonder.....?

How some of your classmates got this far? I swear, I do on a daily basis in clinical. It is getting to the point that I really just want to call these people on this sh!t.

We have been in our psych clinical now since early January. Our teacher is FANTASTIC. In the morning she divides us up into 2 groups and on this unit there are 2 sub-units. Half of the group goes to listen to report on one side and the other students listen on the other and the teacher goes with one of the groups and the other sits with another nurse from that unit. Make sense? EVERY single morning, this one girls asks, "Where is Mrs. X?" Duh! Where the hell do you think she is when we do this?

Then same girl who happens to be a long-term diabetic, is asked a very basic diabetes question about a patient that has majorly fluctuating glucose levels. The teacher looks to her and asks, "If his glucose is all over the place like this what happens to him and what would be a good treatment plan for him?" She said, and I kid you not, "Um, his kidneys would go bad." :uhoh3: She didn't even know what a good treatment for him would be. Two of us were immediately thinking an insulin pump.

We have been reviewing our patients' meds during post-conference every clinical day and the teacher keeps telling us to just give the brand names of drugs. We all go around the room giving the drug name and why it is given/what type of med it is. We generally talk about the same 10 drugs - some psych drugs, some general meds. Even after 6 weeks of doing this, she still does the generic name and has NO clue what the drugs are used for. Seriously, we talk about Geodon, Haldol, Tegretol for nearly every single patient as we go around the room and she still doesn't get it. We are taking pharm at the same time and still doesn't know what Lasix is or why it is used. I can totally understand not knowing the unusual stuff but we have a drug book sitting right there. Most of us go over our meds as soon as we get there because we know this drug review is coming but she is clueless!!!!

OMG!! So sorry to rant but this girl just frustrates the heck out of me!!!! There are actually two girls in this clinical that are like this and I look at them and can't help but wonder how in the world they got this far into the program or how they are going to make it in the real, working world.

ok, thanks for letting me vent.

meredith

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    Hahaha this is a funny one! I go to school with about 40 other students. I would say that about 25 out of the 40-ish think they know EVERYTHING there is to know about nursing. They even interrupt the instructors at times! It's ridiculous.

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    I have seen a few nurses that made me wonder how the heck they got there. Their or a couple people I thought that about in our program, they are now no longer with us though :|

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    Just wait until you are on the job and you start wondering how some nurses keep their jobs. Some of them are very, very scary and not safe to be around.

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    in our program, we are taught that a nurse who knows it all is a dangerous nurse. my program puts out nurses that are in high respect in our community and not once have i heard from in instructor that nurses who are not 100% informed scare them but the ones who think they are. i think a nurse who is more unsure of themselves will be more prudent in the areas that matter, like administering meds and such... the know-it-all-nurse (who will make a mistake at some point in their lifetime) will most likely not be accountable for their own mistakes so they can protect their egos.

    if they have made it this far then they are qualified even if they are unsure of some things. they made it this far because they have been doing everything then needed to do to get that far and i don't find their lack of information that alarming... thats why they are in school.

    i thank god i am in a program where we actually support each other as nurses should. we don't berate each other when we are weak in some areas but help each other because we are a family.

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    in our program, we are taught that a nurse who knows it all is a dangerous nurse. my program puts out nurses that are in high respect in our community and not once have i heard from in instructor that nurses who are not 100% informed scare them but the ones who think they are. i think a nurse who is more unsure of themselves will be more prudent in the areas that matter, like administering meds and such... the know-it-all-nurse (who will make a mistake at some point in their lifetime) will most likely not be accountable for their own mistakes so they can protect their egos.

    if they have made it this far then they are qualified even if they are unsure of some things. they made it this far because they have been doing everything then needed to do to get that far and i don't find their lack of information that alarming... thats why they are in school.

    i thank god i am in a program where we actually support each other as nurses should. we don't berate each other when we are weak in some areas but help each other because we are a family.

    we support each other in my class to in fact we have been complimented many times on how our semester really stands out, but their still are always a few that don't seem to get it and scare the crap out of you. one girl answered on a question we were doing in class, "if you are walking with a patient and they say they feel a rip after an abdominal incision and you look and see their inside are protruding out and incision is open what do you do?" we already covered this the prior semester but this girl said, push it all back in and reseal the bandage!!!!

    ok seriously???

    i have also seen bad nurses. their are always those few that you sit and wonder how they made it through. it's just a fact of life. their are bad police officers, bad firemen, teachers etc etc.

    no reason why we can't come vent about it here.

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    Don't misunderstand, I am no where close to knowing everything. I just get frustrated with the people that don't pay attention and just don't "get it" and the teacher has to take time to explain the same simple concepts over and over to the same person. After 6 weeks of the same reporting system it is time to get it; I'm just cranky (read: about to start) with some of these people.

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    Oh dear god in heaven yes. First semester instructor presents a problem of a 5 year old girl with bed wetting at night, what might be the problem? Classmate says "enlarged prostate?".....tip of the iceberg my friends. So, no, I have no problem NOT supporting my "family" member. A real family member I would call an idiot, and they would say oh duh! Yeah, no way does excess urine at night in a 5 year old FEMALE have anything to do with an enlarged prostate. This student saw NOTHING WRONG with the answer given.

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    in our program, we are taught that a nurse who knows it all is a dangerous nurse. my program puts out nurses that are in high respect in our community and not once have i heard from in instructor that nurses who are not 100% informed scare them but the ones who think they are. i think a nurse who is more unsure of themselves will be more prudent in the areas that matter, like administering meds and such... the know-it-all-nurse (who will make a mistake at some point in their lifetime) will most likely not be accountable for their own mistakes so they can protect their egos.

    if they have made it this far then they are qualified even if they are unsure of some things. they made it this far because they have been doing everything then needed to do to get that far and i don't find their lack of information that alarming... thats why they are in school.

    i thank god i am in a program where we actually support each other as nurses should. we don't berate each other when we are weak in some areas but help each other because we are a family.

    :yeah::yeah::yeah:

    if i did not understand something that we were discussing for the last 12 months i would still ask for an explanation.

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    Oh dear god in heaven yes. First semester instructor presents a problem of a 5 year old girl with bed wetting at night, what might be the problem? Classmate says "enlarged prostate?".....tip of the iceberg my friends. So, no, I have no problem NOT supporting my "family" member. A real family member I would call an idiot, and they would say oh duh! Yeah, no way does excess urine at night in a 5 year old FEMALE have anything to do with an enlarged prostate. This student saw NOTHING WRONG with the answer given.

    I wonder if this is the same person that would shove someones insides back in and re-bandage :|

    RS, if you were not understanding something being discussed, why would you wait 12 months to ask?

    I don't understand everything, not by a long shot, but I think if after 6 weeks I am still not getting something we go over on a daily basis, I would be seeking help a lot sooner then that.

    If your pt reports a problem and you don't know the solution are you just going to make them wait until you finally get it or are you going to go seek some answers then and there???

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    I wonder if this is the same person that would shove someones insides back in and re-bandage :|

    RS, if you were not understanding something being discussed, why would you wait 12 months to ask?

    I don't understand everything, not by a long shot, but I think if after 6 weeks I am still not getting something we go over on a daily basis, I would be seeking help a lot sooner then that.

    If your pt reports a problem and you don't know the solution are you just going to make them wait until you finally get it or are you going to go seek some answers then and there???

    I wouldn't wait for 12 months to ask the question after the subject has been brought up, I was saying If the subject was repeatedly brought up for 12 months and I still didnt get It I would still get it it would ask for help.

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    I wouldn't wait for 12 months to ask the question after the subject has been brought up, I was saying If the subject was repeatedly brought up for 12 months and I still didnt get It I would still get it it would ask for help.

    Umm ok, thanks for clearing that up.

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    Umm ok, thanks for clearing that up.

    Your welcome.

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