Discussions always so hostile here?

LuxAeternaRN · Jul 23, 2011

We can all learn from each other. New grads from seasoned nurses, seasoned nurses from new grads, and anyone/everyone in between. I am a new grad and try to approach experienced nurses humbly and willing to learn. I KNOW I have so much to learn but that's the beauty of nursing - we all do :) Not every new grad is a know it all. I think each nurse has something of value to bring to the profession.

We aren't all going to agree on every subject - and if we did, what kind of fun would that be anyway?

Art_Vandelay · Jul 23, 2011

I am sorry but this is like the best topic. I am really into this kind of thing. How did I miss this? I didn't even know there was this section on Politics in here. YOU MADE MY NIGHT! No really you did. :redpinkhe

I'm glad to have company! In my nursing class, they always thought my first degree was in politics. Probably just meant I should have shut my mouth more.

dance4life · Jul 23, 2011

I'm glad to have company! In my nursing class, they always thought my first degree was in politics. Probably just meant I should have shut my mouth more.

No after not being able to find a job for so long I was wondering what is going on? :uhoh3: Guess I was just a walking pawn. You know I had a Sociology Professor tell me I should be in Congress so yeah I hear ya. :lol2:

Art_Vandelay · Jul 23, 2011

No after not being able to find a job for so long I was wondering what is going on? Guess I was just a walking pawn. You know I had a Sociology Professor tell me I should be in Congress so yeah I hear ya.

Was that you I saw on Capitol Hill? I thought I recognized you.

xtxrn, ASN, RN · Jul 23, 2011

I started this over an hour ago, so if this is out of sequence that's why---

Ok- point taken.... then blood transfusions, heat wave, and others become risky because of how they're responded to. So nothing can be assumed- I can really be interested in an overall topic, only to find flames and darts. :eek: (and I'm not angry as I'm writing this)-- just really, really saddened.

This goes into various posts- I'm not going back to look at who wrote what-

If I'm old fashioned from the "olden days" for finding hatred and prejudice offensive, then shoot me now. It offends me more that nurses find this stuff acceptable. IMHO, nobody with such beliefs needs to be anywhere near people who are sick and needing care. There isn't a nursing school for those who can't stand certain types of people (whatever they are). Either people go into nursing because they want to help people get through illness, didn't look into what nursing involves, or were just looking at the improved chances of getting a job-- and could care less about the humans they're exposed to....

I understand it's impossible for me, or anyone, to be able to 'read' tone of voice and intent in written interactions (part of why social interaction face to face has declined with the increase of internet interaction)- and am aware of how it's easy to read into something based on personal circumstances at the time- I know I'm 'guilty' of that. Am I allowed that? Probably not.

But other things (like word choice) aren't all that subject to interpretation. That's the part that really stinks.

Maybe I'm hoping for something that NO site can do- interaction with other nurses that doesn't "go there" and get into so much muddy water. Opinions are one thing- confrontation, condescension, and prejudice are something else. Are we all guilty of that to some degree- absolutely.... but there are also plenty of ways to reword, or edit things in writing...and that doesn't seem to happen much. I preview posts before posting about 95% of the time- sometimes I still don't get it "right"- but I don't intentionally go after individuals.....I may generalize too much- but based on being hurt- not being mean. There is a difference.

I hate political stuff (and thank you for clarifying the intent- I mean that :)), and while it's impossible to separate the monetary connection with nursing, it really chaps my hide to associate it with human medical interaction (if that makes sense). People are people regardless of beliefs, or political affiliation, and anytime politics is brought up, a lot of toes get stepped on. And not every discussion or comment needs to become "us" vs "them" conversations. People take them there.

I don't remember who responded with some comment such as "wow- just wow"- not sure what that meant- maybe nothing? Or the comment about being constructive or not- so if I am upset by something, that's somehow wrong- but others can find "fat nurses" inferior with no problem??? Double standards, or am I just too stupid since I'm experienced in years longer than some people here have been alive....????? :uhoh3:

I'll give this site one thing - at least the posts don't start with "how to make your boobs bigger" or "need a lawyer in _____"..... looked like a regular spam fest.

Since moving away from where I worked the most as a nurse (TX) and being back in the midwest (a place I've always disliked intensely), I've found more and more people who just refuse to respond to people with decency. If you think I've done that by expressing my views, then so be it- all I see/hear these days are people demanding to be heard without wanting to hear others. Fine... shoot me again.

I have enough negatives in my life to really want to expose myself to such unnecessary stuff....if that's just me, whatever. Hopefully you won't have to understand where I'm coming from. And I'm thrilled to death that I don't understand some of you- best wishes. :)

You don't know me, and I don't know any of you. That can be good, except when it's license to be hateful.

This site has been more pain at what people can do to each other, without caring in the least that they're being hurtful- and that's not all about me- things have been directed at entire groups of people- how incredibly sad that people somehow think that's ok... I know that's really how things seem to be with humans in general- not just here. Just watch the news (-- and I turn that off at times, for the same reasons- keep up to date, but not wallow in the negativity). (for those needing some sort of 'proof')

I understand needing a place to blow off steam- any way to include "venting" in the post title??? Or is that just me being an idiot again???? It doesn't really matter.

I don't know where any of you are coming from, as you don't know any more about me than what's in the posts I've written-- may seem like I've said too much, but you have no clue. Nobody knows how their words can hurt...but most people at least don't want to hurt others.

I've learned some things here- mostly to avoid groups of people I have some general expectations of (like I wouldn't expect a vegetarian to want to go to the Bacon Cheeseburger Festival- :)- NOT meeting some contrived standards, but based on the majority of those I've met in the past ).... nurses used to mean a certain type of person. They may have had feelings about things, but they didn't attack types of people, or get snarky over and over. People blow off steam...or they're full of hot air. :lol2:

Back to hanging out with the dog- lol- she hates this new computer (a gift- I had no access to other people for a couple of years when my other one broke). Maybe she knew something she couldn't tell me!! :)

xtxrn, ASN, RN · Jul 23, 2011

And now it's just some big joke....

Feel good about yourselves :)

Someone had to pee in my cereal to have an opinion different from yours?

I can't dislike something, AND you like something???

IowaLPN · Jul 23, 2011

I don't understand why a person who is complaining about the site doesn't just leave? Maybe it's just attention seeking...

xtxrn, ASN, RN · Jul 23, 2011

because I'm having trouble getting to the spam controls to get this stuff out of my inbox- already removed the bookmark, unliked the site, and blown off other posts I'd been following- happy now? :)

As soon as I get the spam set to include this web address, I'm GONE :)

eagle78 · Jul 23, 2011

True- some DO look like they have a bigger chance of becoming heated- and I have always avoided those on any site.... but there is a different vibe here that is unpleasant- if it's just me, then no loss to you guys... :)

If you hoover around the general nursing forum, you will probably see some heated posts. Have you tried going to the specialty forums?? There are tons of specialities under there and they tend to post threads that pertain to that speciality. My interest is Oncology, Hospice, ICU, and I look at them regularly to see new stuff. For me though there is tons of information as I am a newbie so I go through the old threads as well.

Like some other posters have already said, I have enjoyed your posts and feel that you have a wealth of information to share. It would be a shame to deprive us of any valuable insights you can provide. Whatever you decide I wish you well. :smokin:

dance4life · Jul 23, 2011

And now it's just some big joke....
Feel good about yourselves :)
Someone had to pee in my cereal to have an opinion different from yours?
I can't dislike something, AND you like something???

Sorry, but it is the second thread about people being negative. Except the other one was from a New Grad. So the consensus is we are all negative in some way. :lol2: It isn't meant to be a joke and I think you have a sense of humor. :yeah:

eslvn · Jul 23, 2011

I get what your saying about experience. I am a new nurse of about 6 months, and I have already learned so much, I cant imagine how much I will learn in 20 years. I always go to my experienced nurses with questions, and I respect those who have been doing this for so long. Im not sure if your talking about people complaining or being rude to one another. I understand people need to vent, and sometimes its easier to say it on here then talk to your coworkers. And it is stressful. But I agree if you are talking about smarta** comments when someone asks a question or has something to say...rude.

Bruin's Mom · Jul 23, 2011

I don't believe people are angry here or hostile, I just think that everyone at this site has different types of experiences and would like to share the way they cope with the nursing profession itself.

Nursing experience is a beautiful thing when it can help others and I think when people share those experiences it gives a new perspective on a situation.

Let's face it - we are all in the nursing boat together rowing for survival...........:)