Discrimination Against Relocaters

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Hi everybody,

I am a registered nurse who graduated this past May of 2011, and I have observed a very disturbing phenomenon that is taking place. About two weeks ago, I began orienting on a medical-surgical floor at a hospital in a new town about 3 hours from where I lived previously. I was interviewed over the phone and relocated for this position. The hospital itself is in a small little town about 40 minutes from where I am renting my apartment, which is in a larger suburb of a nearby city.

After a few days on the floor, I have noticed things. (1) The hospital has recently gone on a hiring binge to replace people who have left. Many, many new graduate nurses have recently been hired at this small-medium sized hospital. (2) I have heard staff complaining about high turnover and "people leaving after a year." I overheard a male LPN in the cafeteria ruminating over people who leave and treat the hospital as a "proving ground" before moving on to greener pastures, as it were. (3) The new graduate nurses from the local two-year school here are treated favorably by the other staff, who also were trained at that school. These are people who were born and raised in this town and tend to resent outsiders. People who relocated to the hospital, like myself, are viewed with high suspicion.

I have already been questioned by LPNs and to a lesser extent, RNs, about why I would move from my perceived-to-be nicer area (a wealthy, cosmopolitan area) to this tired, old factory town to work. "Could you just not get a job back where you were?" Or, "Do you plan to go back there?" And, "Why did you choose here?" And also, "Are you one of the people who moved here?" People have probed me for information, asking dodgy questions in the hope that I will "out" the fact that I intend to leave after a year.

It is true that I moved here for a job, and that the area isn't the ideal for me, but that doesn't mean I will leave right away. I don't know about all of you, but I think it is rude to assume that new graduate nurses who relocate to find jobs have secret intentions to leave the area after exploiting the facility for its experience. That may be true for many, many people. However, generalizing an entire category of people based on prior negative experiences that happen more than is common flies against what nursing philosophy. That is discrimination. Imagine if I started asking a black person "Do you plan to commit a crime here? I've seen a lot of people like you commit crimes, so I just figured that's what your intentions were too." People would be outraged, and rightly so. Well, if it is wrong in one situation, then it is wrong in ALL situations. I am an employee of the facility I was hired at, just like everybody else, whether I relocated and they didn't, and I do not deserve to be labeled based on a category I belong to. I don't need it and I don't deserve it.

Who agrees?

Ok this one is a true story and not funny at all but there was a nsg student I went to school with that was also a single mother of 3. On the weekends (when we were at school or clinicals) she would have them stay in the car and she'd run out to check on them every so often. They were about 12, 10 and 7. She had no family in the area and could not afford a sitter.

She brought a thermos of hot water and cup-o-noodles for them to eat and a big jug of water or koolaide. She eventually went on to graduate and has a very nice home and a ADON at a nursing home. :up:

As much as I sympathize with her predicament, I find her solution to be unacceptable and bordering on neglect/abuse.

WOW.

Specializes in Emergency & Trauma/Adult ICU.

I see no discrimination.

It's tough to be the new kid anywhere... small town, big city, or the burbs.

It will likely get better.

I have a similar story to the OP. I think people in the small town I am at now ask a lot more personal questions than in the "big city" I left. THere everyone seemed to be more sucpicious and distrustful of others. lol Also, the staff has prob seen many people relocate and leave after a year. If you were a local grad working in a med/surg floor the staff might ask, " what type of nursing do you eventually want to do ?" etc.... or other types of questions that might indicate whether you plan to leave or not.

Hi everybody,

I don't know about all of you, but I think it is rude to assume that new graduate nurses who relocate to find jobs have secret intentions to leave the area after exploiting the facility for its experience. That may be true for many, many people. However, generalizing an entire category of people based on prior negative experiences that happen more than is common flies against what nursing philosophy. That is discrimination.

Who agrees?

Sort of like when someone assumes that a high school drop-out is low class and drags down the nursing profession? Seriously, you have to see the hypocrisy in your two threads. It doesn't feel good to have someone lump you into a category of nurses just because of personal experiences.

Specializes in OB (with a history of cardiac).

I don't think asking "couldn't you get a job there?" is discriminating, really. Put it this way- some of the nurses I work with have worked at the hospital since before I was born (and I'm 32, there I said it). When I tell them it took me a year to get this job, and it's my first nursing job, they can't beleive it. "Why couldn't you get a job?!!" They weren't aware of the job shortage, the preferential treatment for BSN's (it's true, I don't mean to sound like a jerk- I'm in school to finish my BSN right now). So maybe some of the nurses you work with don't/didn't know that it's so fierce for competition right now.

And if they're a small, small town hospital maybe they're not as fancy as metro hospitals, it's quite possible that they had a few crops of arrogant new grads from big city universities who graduated thinking they'd go right to work at a big name national hospital, and then ended up working at a small hospital, with a bad attitude, and behaved in a condescending manner to the staff, and then after their obligatory year of time they turned tail to their big fancy hospital. I'm no seasoned nurse, I've barely worked a year as an RN and I see some real lofty and arrogant attitudes from nursing students and new grads- ADN's and BSN's alike. So maybe they're on the defensive for good reason. But honestly, they don't sound defensive, they just sound inquisitive. Different populations have different ways- a person from Minnesota probably won't interact the same way as someone from New York might. Someone from the Twin Cities won't interact the same way someone from, say, Lismore, MN would. Lismore is a teeny town in southwest MN, and the Twin Cities are...well, the Cities.

OR...or, maybe those new grads didn't leave the hospital...maybe the town you're in is one of "those" kinds of towns...are there restricted areas of the Hospital? Do you occasionally think you hear a faint "help us! please help us!" from the vents? Do the seasoned nurses talk alot about...eating their young? When they say someone is a seasoned nurse, do they really mean it? muahahahahahaaa!

Specializes in geriatrics.

The OP enjoys starting controversial threads. Not someone you could take seriously.

Specializes in OB (with a history of cardiac).

So I've noticed.

As much as I sympathize with her predicament, I find her solution to be unacceptable and bordering on neglect/abuse.

WOW.

My sister and I were, occasionally, left in the car for very long periods.

Not everyone has better options.

I am grateful I have never been in such a quandry, myself, as a parent.

I'm glad the mom in that little story wasn't reported because she was doing what she had to do to improve the quality of life for her family.

I'm sure she hated having to do it.

Sorry, for being off-topic on an old post, but it was bothering me.

Specializes in med/surg/ortho/tele.

Well, relocation is personal choice and its a nursing world full of women, women who are nosey and want some happening news in their life. Ignore everybody and concentrate on your work !!!

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