No Prior Existing Conditions but Dead Anyway - page 12

Who would think that a normally healthy woman would die so swiftly from influenza in June? Could you ever have imagined such a thing? No wonder her family and friends are in shock. So why did... Read More

  1. by   indigo girl
    Georgetown, Kentucky

    http://www.georgetownnews.com/articl...7326257982.txt

    Quote from www.georgetownnews.com
    The 39-year-old man, Matthew Finger of Georgetown, had no underlying health conditions and died at his sister's home, Rebecca Finger, sister of the deceased, said.

    Finger died Saturday, Oct. 3, making him the first to die in an "uncontrolled setting," Goble said.

    He is the only male to die of the H1N1 virus out of the six Kentucky deaths.

    The H1N1 confirmation did not come until today and Goble said the man had not been under a doctor's care.

    Finger had only complained of a headache the night before his death, Rebecca Finger told the News-Graphic.

    "He wasn't overweight. He was just healthy that way," she said.
    (hat tip pfi/homebody)
  2. by   lamazeteacher
    Quote from indigo girl
    Georgetown, Kentucky

    http://www.georgetownnews.com/articl...7326257982.txt
    (hat tip pfi/homebody)
    I submitted a comment in the newspaper link herein, about the need to immediately access healthcare with H1N1 making rounds, and have the vaccination ASAP (not in a critical way).

    This incident reflects how fast the virus can progress in uncompromised men as well as pregnant women and children. I wonder if the rural nature of Mr. Finger's community inhibited access to care, or if lack of health insurance or stoicism was the reason for that.

    On another thread I've mentioned that I have a nastry "bug" presently that began Sunday, the 12th of Oct. On Monday (yesterday) I called my PCP, explained to his MA that I'd wanted to start Tamiflu without contaminating his waiting room, described my s/s and began taking it last night. So far my throat is slightly better 24 hours later, I'm sneezing more frequently, still have a fever and headaches along with pronounced fatigue and muscle aches. I take a Chinese herb called Yin Ciao for control of rhinitis, and tylenol for pain at appropriate intervals.

    Last Aug.'09, I had a similar round with this, was tested for H1N1 (negative, as it was 48 hours, too early for a positive result) and took Tamiflu with similar results and a 2 week course of illness. If this thing is coming at us in waves, I want out of the water! I'm 70 years old, in relatively good health, although a hiatal hernia (5cm) takes up space in my thoracic cavity, causing dyspnea with minimal exercise.

    As soon as I'm better for a week or so, I'll take the injectible vaccine for H1N1. I had the seasonal flu and pneumonia vaccines 2 1/2 weeks ago......

    I wish you all well!!
    Last edit by lamazeteacher on Oct 13, '09 : Reason: typo correction, addition to clarify
  3. by   indigo girl
    Hearing lots of rumors of people being reinfected, but these remain speculation until proven. It could well be something else.
  4. by   CrunchRN
    Runors people are bugging me with:

    A) The regular flu shot increases your susceptibility to H1N1
    B) The H1N1 has high levels of mercury

    Anyone have any reputable links to dispute these rumors?

    Thanks!
  5. by   oramar
    My only question is "where is that damn vaccine". It's arrival in the city was greeted with much ballyhoo by the media ten days ago. Too bad no one has gotten it. The only place I know of giving out the shots was a physician office in the suburbs that was participating in some sort of study. I saw people going in his office to get it but that was a limited number that were pre-registered. I personally know not one person or child that has gotten either a shot or nasal spray for H1N1. Meanwhile the number of infections is rising by leaps and bounds. It is almost toooo late. If they set up a clinic anywhere it would be stampeded people are so scared.
  6. by   morte
    Quote from CrunchRN
    Runors people are bugging me with:

    A) The regular flu shot increases your susceptibility to H1N1
    B) The H1N1 has high levels of mercury

    Anyone have any reputable links to dispute these rumors?

    Thanks!
    this comes from comments out of canada.....as someone here observed, this may be accounted for by the fact that the pool of persons seeking the flu shot are skewed to the already compromised.
  7. by   indigo girl
    Quote from CrunchRN
    Runors people are bugging me with:

    A) The regular flu shot increases your susceptibility to H1N1
    B) The H1N1 has high levels of mercury

    Anyone have any reputable links to dispute these rumors?

    Thanks!
    If they don't want thimerosal, all they have to do is choose the mist or single dose injection option, both of which are thimerosal free. Does the swine flu vaccine drawn from multi dose vials have more thimerosal than say a seasonal flu shot. I don't know. Does it really matter if you have the options that I already mentioned?

    The other issue refers to a Canadian study, popularly referred to as "the Canadian problem" which has been seriously questioned by the CDC. Here's a link to an article about this: http://www.healthzone.ca/health/news...article/701226
    Supposedly getting a seasonal flu shot would make one more susceptible to getting swine flu which makes no sense at all. US, Britain, and Australian data do not support this.
    http://www.google.com/hostednews/can...AyHmP0GWejWPHg
  8. by   indigo girl
    Nishinomiya, Japan

    Looks like a difficult translation.

    http://www.flutrackers.com/forum/sho...54&postcount=2

    Quote from www.flutrackers.com

    Nishinomiya, Hyogo Prefecture, 14, a small city girl living in the city two years (8) died of multiple organ failure that is caused by a pandemic influenza, said.

    The girl did not have an underlying disease. According to the Ministry of Health, the 26th death of the country.

    According to the city of Nishinomiya, girls are more a slight fever from the day 11, day 12 in the morning near the body temperature reached 39 degrees.

    Were under treatment at home, at about 12, 5:00 pm, filed for disability awareness, was transferred to hospital after a checkup in a hospital in Kobe, Nishinomiya.

    Aware that there was no such treatment from the administration that they are not.

    http://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=20...00113-mai-soci

    thanks to Makoto
  9. by   indigo girl
    Volusia County, Florida

    http://www.news-journalonline.com/ne.../flu101409.htm

    Quote from www.news-journalonline.com
    A 58-year-old Volusia County man's death announced today is the first death associated with the H1N1 virus in which an underlying medical condition was not a factor, said Dr. Bonnie Sorensen, health director of the Volusia County Health Department.
    (hat tip pfi/aurora)
  10. by   indigo girl
    Cape Coral, Florida

    http://www.nbc-2.com/Global/story.asp?S=11314601

    Quote from www.nbc-2.com
    LEE COUNTY: A 30-year-old Cape Coral woman has died from the H1N1 virus, according to the Lee County Health Department.

    The health department says the woman had been hospitalized before her death and didn't have any medical conditions that would increase her risk of complications from the H1N1 virus, also known as the swine flu.

    "That is one of the things that is so alarming about swine flu, it doesn't react the way seasonal flu does. Normal healthy people with no pre-existing conditions can have very severe reactions that can lead, ultimately, to death," said Jennifer James Mesloh of the Lee County Health Department.
    (hat tip flutrackers/shiloh)
  11. by   morte
    indie.....has anyone done the IgG2 testing in the USA?
  12. by   indigo girl
    Quote from morte
    indie.....has anyone done the IgG2 testing in the USA?
    An excellent question which was also asked by someone at this link. His question is in the comments below the commentary. It is comment #18, I believe.

    http://scienceblogs.com/effectmeasur...lu_by_talk.php

    Quote from scienceblogs.com
    From Dr. Racaniello:
    "Some years ago an ELISA kit was developed to detect antibodies against H1N1 swine influenza (not the current strain). You can read about it here: http://www.jvdi.org/cgi/reprint/16/3/197. I believe the product is HerdCheck Swine Influenza Virus H1N1 Antibody Test Kit, IDEXX Laboratories, Inc., Westbrook, ME. I am not aware of a similar kit to detect antibodies to the 2009 H1N1 strain."
  13. by   indigo girl
    San Diego, California

    http://www3.signonsandiego.com/stori...&zIndex=182778

    Quote from www3.signonsandiego.com
    A 5-year-old girl with no known underlying medical conditions has died of swine flu, San Diego County health officials said Wednesday.

    Officials with the county's Health and Human Services Agency scheduled a news conference Wednesday afternoon to discuss the case. No further details were immediately available, including where in the county the girl lived.

    Dr. Wilma Wooten, county public health officer, and Dr. John Bradley, director of the Division of Infectious Disease for Rady Children's Hospital, will attend the news conference.
    (hat tip flutrackers/JimO)

close