Flu shot controversy

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So, all being healthcare professionals, we are all urged (if not required) to be vaccinated for the flu annually. I completely understand why. I know there is some controversy about flu vaccines and their safety as well though. I know that people just think, well I wanna keep my patients safe, so i'm getting one, without thinking about the possible side effects, if they really do exist. Not saying that I disagree with it, because that's not the case at all, vaccines can really be a good thing, have been proved to have helped millions of people throughout the years.

As far as the controversy goes, I have found multiple sites explaining about the mercury and aluminum content in these vaccines. Some say it's minimal, others say since mercury is so toxic, it's a bad amount. Also same goes with aluminum. Both which have potential to cause neurological problems. I have read MANY studies which show that If you more than 5 consecutive flu vaccines, you have a HUGE increase in chance of developing alzheimers later in life. Thing is, these vaccines are tested and deemed safe right now, but how do you measure side effects 20 years down the road right now? you cant. 5 consecutive vaccines isn't really much considering how much longer I have to be a nurse, like 20 more years!

The flu vaccine also contains polysorbate 80, which has been known to cause reproductive problems, and cancer. How is it safe for us to have things like this being injected into our body? Plus it only protects against certain strains predicted to show up. I know physicians who refuse to take the shot! Obviously there's got to be a reason. I have seen at least 3 or 4 patients in my few years of nursing, that have had gullian-barre, have no idea how they ended up with it. The only correlation is that they had received their flu shot just before that.

As far as the swine flu shot, I guess this year it seems to be somewhat of a combo vaccine from what I understand. Safety once again, is tested for now, but what about 20, 30, even 50 years down the road, will there be residual effects? What about the swine flu outbreak back in the 70's that everyone got vaccinated for back then, there were a lot of residual effects from that shot, which at the time was deemed as safe.

I'm not trying to say flu shots are bad, I see why they can be important. And I know that people get them to keep their patients safe, completely understand. But i care about what I am injecting in my body to do so. I wanna keep myself healthy too, and the substances in the vaccine just don't seem very healthy.

I guess what I am looking for here, is others opinions on this. Your thoughts on whether or not you feel it's safe, and why. Or contrary, why you feel it's not safe. I understand it's potential benefits, but also see a lot of negative things as well. Just wanting to see every aspect :D

Thanks.

Each age group appears to have it's plus and minus side. I too went thru my childhood before many of the vaccinations were developed. I do remember getting the Salk vaccination, as well as a series of shots whenever we were transferred overseas. We got them or we stayed here. In 2000, I had to have titers done to get into clinical areas because I never had any childhood diseases.

GrannyRN65

a case of shingles last year courtesy of the chickenpox

You are still susceptible to shingles after the chicken pox vaccine. In fact, you could have gotten a worse case of shingles since the severity of shingles is typically inverse to the severity of your chicken pox. The vaccine gives you a "mild case" of chicken pox immunity.

forgive my ignorance but is it true that the current vaccine have both flu and h1n1 components in it? i mean they are not anymore separated but given in one shot. h1n1 vaccine is in its infant stage...what are your thoughts on taking the flu if they are indeed combined together?

forgive my ignorance but is it true that the current vaccine have both flu and h1n1 components in it? i mean they are not anymore separated but given in one shot. h1n1 vaccine is in its infant stage...what are your thoughts on taking the flu if they are indeed combined together?

My doc told me that they are both in the one shot.

Specializes in LTC, med/surg, hospice.

I'm not against the flu shot...just don't like it being "forced" on me. This year they have changed our health insurance..the cheaper option you have to be involved in wellness activities, get blood work, AND your flu shot. If you opt out, your premium is doubled.

Also those that don't get the flu shot have to wear a mask the entire flu season.

Specializes in Oncology.
forgive my ignorance but is it true that the current vaccine have both flu and h1n1 components in it? i mean they are not anymore separated but given in one shot. h1n1 vaccine is in its infant stage...what are your thoughts on taking the flu if they are indeed combined together?

H1N1 is just another strain of influenza. Every single year the strains covered are different. It's made the same way the vaccine has been made for years.

Specializes in Med Surg.

Took the shot but it was to protect me, not my patients or the public. Whether or not I get the flu is still a crap shoot since the worst cases of the flu I ever had, including last year, came a couple of months after getting the shot.

As far as my getting the shot protecting others, I was unaware the shot produced a magical force field around me so that I can't pick up the virus on my clothing from the lady behind me in line at 7-11 who is coughing her head off. Or maybe it produces a repellant that keeps the virus from jumping off a patient's visitors into my hair or all over my scrub top. Do those who drop their kids at day care not go inside to see them safely in? Never hug your kids before heading out for a night shift? You know if you do you are basically hugging every other kid in their class.

People are two legged ambulatory fomites. That's why we wash our hands, gel in and out, wear gloves, and sometimes gowns and masks. Thats why we clean our stethoscopes and pulse oxes between pts. (At least I do)

I get the shot for one reason - I HATE using PTO for being sick. I have better things to do than hang around the house being miserable. If someone else wants to get stuck because they really think they are doing it for others, then they can think that if they like. If a person doesn't want the shot, they shouldn't have to make the choice between the shot and making a living. Unless of course there really IS a magic force field created when you get the shot.

forgive my ignorance but is it true that the current vaccine have both flu and h1n1 components in it? i mean they are not anymore separated but given in one shot. h1n1 vaccine is in its infant stage...what are your thoughts on taking the flu if they are indeed combined together?

The only reason there was a separate shot last year was that the strain was identified after production of the seasonal flu vaccine was underway. So, they made it the same way they make the seasonal vaccine, but instead of putting three strains in it, they put one.

Each year, one of the strains is an H1N1 strain. This year, the H1N1 strain is the Atypical, pandemic H1N1 from last year.

The H1N1 vaccine is no more in it's infancy then any other seasonal flu vaccine.

Just got mine, I don't over think it. I don't do it for my patients really, I do it so I don't have to get really sick hopefully and need to call off. Calling in sick is very much frowned upon. For me, it's more something to help job security a bit.

hopefully = key word

Specializes in med-surg, mother-baby.

I dont know if we got different vaccines here in Canada, probably did...But I saw several bad reactions to the shot during the big vaccination panic. I had one GB patient, the doctors straight out said it was because of the shot. I had colleagues falling asleep at the wheel of their cars, one who developed pretty bad cellulitis at the injection site, and several who STILL got H1N1 after getting the shot and having flu symptoms for a week post vaccine. I absolutely refuse to get vaccinated for the flu. I understand that H1N1 is a particularly bad strain, and spoke to people who said it was the most painful thing they experienced. However, I have a very good immune system, and the only times I got really sick at the pneumo level were when I HAD to get vaccinated for nursing school. I have enough common sense, as do most people who are moderately intelligent, to understand basic hygiene issues, and to protect others when I DO get sick. I dont feel I put my patients at particular risk because I did not get vaccinated, and was clearly not affected myself, since I only got one very small cold during flu season...Either way, we all know now that it was all blown out of proportion, since H1N1 did nowhere near as much damage as was mediacized (sp?), nowhere near as many deaths as occur yearly from the regular ol' influenza. But its all a personal choice. I work with an agency, and at several hospitals, and I dont think any of them forced employees to get the shot. In fact, having the shot reduced your chances of getting paid sick leave if you DID get H1N1 here, something about proving your antibodies were from the actual flu and not the shot...didnt understand the explanation I got but either way, kinda screwy if you ask me:P

Specializes in Vents, Telemetry, Home Care, Home infusion.
I'm not against the flu shot...just don't like it being "forced" on me. This year they have changed our health insurance..the cheaper option you have to be involved in wellness activities, get blood work, AND your flu shot. If you opt out, your premium is doubled.

Also those that don't get the flu shot have to wear a mask the entire flu season.

What health insurance is this? I think that's pretty awesome!

I think people should be encouraged to partake in healthful activities, diets, lifestyles, etc and since they are contributing to better health should be rewarded.

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