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Differences between Medical Assistants and Registered Nurses?

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MA2006 has 1 years experience and specializes in Med-Surg.

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Is your friend crazy? I have been a MA for the last year now in a awesome clinic. We have one RN and the 3 of us MA's. There is a major difference in what she does vs what we do. She does the education part of the pt work. We have a lot of people on insulin and pt/inr pts. Your friend make's the rest of us ma's look bad. Most of us never claim to be a nurse since are not. You are what you are and we are not nurse's. No matter what you do in life, be proud of what you are or do not do it. I used to be a EMT and i enjoy this job. We have great pt's and the 3 md's are great.

Anyway. For a idea what we do.We bring the pt's back and take there vitals,room them. Ask them what meds they are on. If they need refills on there meds i check the computer records to make sure they are due for the refills/are on the meds and then write the script for the doc to sign or send it via oncall data to the pharmacy. If they need blood work or urine test i do it,ekg if they need it. If there in the need for a injection (B12's,flu,others) i give it when ordered. A of pt's needing there ears flushed lately. Plus all the other little things that are needed. Nothing too hard or major. But its needed. Scripts and refills and dealing with the insurance companys take up a lot of the day. It make's more sense to have a MA do this then a higher paid and skilled RN. Our RN manager is very smart and very busy doing her work. We work as a team all doing our part so the pt gets in and out asap. Its all about the pt and his care. We all have our part of the job to get it all done. Your friend really make's the rest of us MA's look bad. She give's fuel to those us do not like us ma's. There is plenty of work for RNs/lpns and MA's. We all have our place.The pay is good but not near what a LPN or RN make. Atleast in Ohio there isnt. There are a good amount of job openings if you try to find them.

John

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MA2006 has 1 years experience and specializes in Med-Surg.

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I don't think she realizes that calling herself a nurse offends other MAs and I would assume nurses as well. I have never discussed it with her, I wonder if I should? I would not want her to get in any trouble. Then again, I don't think its any of my business :uhoh21: . Thanks for the additional information. The descriptions you listed sound exactly like what the CMA in my med. office did on a daily basis.

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I ran into an old friend from elementary school and she brought up that she was graduating soon from a 12 month long MA program. I am not sure, but I guess she had begun her 4 month long clinical phase(?). I congratulated her on her success (she graduated with honors) and I mentioned that we had something in common, that I also was entering the medical field. I told her that I had just been accepted into a RN program a few days prior (I was still in shock ). As soon as I said that, she got really defensive. She began stating that MAs do 90% of what RNs do, if not more. MAs get paid almost the same as RNs because the knowledge is the basically the same:uhoh3:.

She basically said that RNs and MAs are the same except that MAs don't do IVs.

Then she proceeded to tell me how she hated the RNs in her clinicals.

After a while she calmed down and said that she wanted to be a RN but went the MA route because she was getting a break with the tuition. She also plans on eventually going into a RN program once she is more financially able. My question is how similar are MAs and RNs? I worked at an internal med office for a year and I remember pretty well what our MA did most of the time (she trained me).Then again I am sure there are more skills under her belt that she just never had the chance to use within that year. Once she began talking then my defences went up as well (I felt like she was putting me down), although I kept quiet because who am I to say anything, I am not a nurse yet , right? ;)

Since I did not attent school with her, how do I know what her curriculum consisted of? So now I am turning to you ladies and gents to educate me on how similar or different MAs and RNs are.

If RN's and MA's are "basically the same" and "make almost the same amount of money" and the only difference is I.V. therapy, why is she going to go back to school and spend at least 2-3 years to do the "same thing" and make the "same amount" of money? Is she really that excited about putting in an IV?:rolleyes: Obviously the two are very VERY different.

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MA2006 has 1 years experience and specializes in Med-Surg.

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If RN's and MA's are "basically the same" and "make almost the same amount of money" and the only difference is I.V. therapy, why is she going to go back to school and spend at least 2-3 years to do the "same thing" and make the "same amount" of money? Is she really that excited about putting in an IV?:rolleyes: Obviously the two are very VERY different.

LOL... I never thought of that. You are right. All I know is I got the impression that she really wanted to become a nurse. She went the MA route because she had a hook-up in a tech school (very big discount) and figured she should take the opportunity. She talked so much BS about RNs, but then she totally contradicted herself when she said she was going to go back to school to become a RN eventually.

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In my geographical area (North Central Texas) the MAs earn between $8.50 and $14.00 hourly.

In the part of Southern California where I once lived the MAs earned between $8 and $15 hourly, with the typical MA earning between $10 and $12. I'd love to meet any MAs who earn as much as an RN in their area. So far, I have not encountered any.

The earnings of medical assistants vary, depending on their experience, skill level, and location. Median annual earnings of medical assistants were $24,610 in May 2004. The middle 50 percent earned between $20,650 and $28,930. The lowest 10 percent earned less than $18,010, and the highest 10 percent earned more than $34,650. Median annual earnings in the industries employing the largest numbers of medical assistants in May 2004 were:

Colleges, universities, and professional schools - $27,490

Outpatient care centers 25,360

General medical and surgical hospitals - 25,160

Offices of physicians - 24,930

Offices of other health practitioners - 21,930

http://www.bls.gov/oco/ocos164.htm

Median annual earnings of registered nurses were $52,330 in May 2004. The middle 50 percent earned between $43,370 and $63,360. The lowest 10 percent earned less than $37,300, and the highest 10 percent earned more than $74,760. Median annual earnings in the industries employing the largest numbers of registered nurses in May 2004 were as follows:

Employment services - $63,170

General medical and surgical hospitals - 53,450

Home health care services - 48,990

Offices of physicians - 48,250

Nursing care facilities - 48,220

http://www.bls.gov/oco/ocos083.htm

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Marie_LPN, RN is a LPN, RN and specializes in 5 yrs OR, ASU Pre-Op 2 yr. ER.

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I would have asked what she was smoking to be that delusional.

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MrsMommaRN has 2 years experience and specializes in orthopaedics.

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if mas made the same as an rn had the same responsibilities, same pay, etc wouldn't more of us just then become a ma for shorter training time?

mas are valuable people to the medical community. their knowledge base is a great stepping stone into the acutal nursing field. some medical offices use the term "nurse" generically calling anyone that can take a pulse and that wears scrubs "nurse". this is such a touchy subject for me. (can you tell):uhoh21: yes you can go to xx college and earn a degree in medical assisting but for the most part it is on the job training and in most states you do not need a degree, certificate, license or other to practice as an ma.

to become an rn you have to be educated in math, psychology, sociology, critial thinking skills, ethics, clinical skills, sit for a board and practice with a valid license. (i am sure there is something i have left out please forgive me as i rant.)

your school chum was playing the one up game. congrats on getting into an rn program.:nurse:

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All I know is I got the impression that she really wanted to become a nurse. She went the MA route because she had a hook-up in a tech school (very big discount) and figured she should take the opportunity. She talked so much BS about RNs, but then she totally contradicted herself when she said she was going to go back to school to become a RN eventually.

It sounds like she may be envious of you???

...just my 2 cents : )

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MA2006 has 1 years experience and specializes in Med-Surg.

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Thanks for the additional information, there is a significant difference between the two salaries.

Mom2bears- thanks for the congrats.

Nurse2be1206- I hope that is not the case. I did not tell her that I got in a RN school to throw it in her face. I hope that is not how she took it. I was happy for the both of us, 1) that she was almost done with her MA program and 2) that I was finally getting a chance to become what I have fought for, for the last three long years. This is very important to me and I thought it was rude of her to speak so poorly of nurses, after I was trying to tell her my good news.

I think she was trying to one-up me because she asked me what classes I had taken (a&p I and II, micro, chem201, stats, etc..) and she wanted to know my GPA. I told her I had a 3.72 cum GPA out of 4.0. Then she began telling me how she had a 4.0 (which of course is awesome). I think she asked me those questions so that she could talk about her GPA, without sounding like she was bragging. Then again I could be wrong and maybe she didn't mean it that way at all.

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gwenith is a BSN, RN and specializes in ICU.

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If anyone truly thinks that an MA is the same as an RN - ask them to look for a job outside the US and if they can travel the world as an MA.

That is the real difference and hey! it is still one of the BIG advantages to being an RN:D:D:D

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We have a few MAs in our RN program and they do not seem to know any more than the students who have not worked in the medical field whatsoever...

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HeartsOpenWide is a RN and specializes in Ante-Intra-Postpartum, Post Gyne.

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Yes, she said that MAs make almost the same as RNs. I don't know where she got her "facts" but I also thought MAs earned around $10-$13 depending on experience. The girl who worked with me at the medical office made around $12 a hour and she was a CMA for a good 3-4 years. Then again I assume that there are some that may make as much as a RN in some instances.

I am a CMA and starting nursing school in the fall. I do not make crap at my job (but I stay because they worked around my school when doing pre-requs) I have been there just over four years now and I am JUST making $9.50...and since I am part time with school and all they do not give me any benifits...they say this is because I am "per-diem" but with all the money they are saving by not paying for my heath insurance every month, two weeks paid vacation every year or paid holidays and sick days... I should be getting way more than that an hour. Oh, and starting nurses here start at about $20-25 and hour...thats way different than my four years of experience pay....

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