Nurses at Scripps Encinitas Hospital in San Diego County California have filed a petition to Decertify the California Nurses Association.
The California Nurses Association have made several unsuccessful attempts to strike at the hospital and have failed to garner enough support among staff nurses.
A copy of the petition is available from the National Labor Relations Board or download the petition now at http://www.stopunions.com
Specializes in Cardiac Critical Care, Trauma, Neuro..
Nurses grassroots campaign at Scripps Encinitas Hospital leads to victory for RN's opposed to unionization by the California Nurses Association. The CNA, under pressure from a renewed decertification campaign accepts Scripps managements initial proposal. Nurses voted to accept a contract without a "union security clause". Scripps Encinitas is an "open shop". Professional RN's at Scripps can choose not to become CNA members and cannot be forced to pay union dues. Nurses may continue with their decertification drive removing the cloud of the CNA completely.
How many nurses will choose to become CNA members and pay dues for a contract that Scripps management is willing to give them for FREE? The CNA added a no strike clause for two years. How effective were their strikes at Scripps Encinitas?
In reality, Long Beach memorial did not get a better deal with CNA. We lost things. Our educational leave and benefits were better before CNA, we used to float in "clusters" and now our contract says we can float wherever the hospital gives us orientation, the nurses that went on strike lost 12 days pay that can never be recovered and CNA certainly did not pay them, CNA "PROMISED" a defined benefit "pension" retirement and what we have ia a defined contribution (which I think is better anyway) and we make less money than the non union hospitals in our area. CNA can promise whatever they want or think you want to hear, but in reality they can only "get" what the hospital will "give".
This contract is horrible, but CNA signed the deal when they found out we were trying to decertify! Maybe it's different where you are, but don't tell me I'm better off with this representation, because I'm not!!!! It's not all about dues for me, but why should I be forced to pay for something I don't want and don't believe is good or better than I can do for myself.
I wonder how much Spacenurse get paid by CNA? I wonder if she is one of those RNs on the union's LM-2?
I wish the nurses of Scripps Encinitas all the best this Wednesday and Thursday!! Vote NO! CNA is not worth it!!!!
Congratulations to the RNs of Scripps Encinitas. Filing a decert petition isn't easy!
I called the NLRB and they said that the election is to be held the 27th and 28th of July. It will be interesting to see what happens, no hospital has decertified CNA since 1979. I'm sure their new dues collector will help their efforts. :chuckle
I saw a flyer with a nurse from Good Samaritan Hospital on it saying "dues are worth it!".. I'm sure she believes this since she is on the CNA payroll. The LM2s on the www.stopunions.com website reports her earnings from CNA. Now that is some real credibility!!!!!!!!!
HIP HIP HOORAY.. I admit I am against unions for nurses. And I was told I do a disservice to my fellow nurses with that opinion.
What does a dissservice to my fellow nurses is keeping my mouth shut. That's what the unions want. They are all wonderful as long as you go along with them.. Oh yeah.
They are no different than the poor management at the hospitals they push their union on. It's their way of the highway.. Guess what I've been on the highway before and it's ain't so bad.
Thanks for the links. I'll be reading them.
It's a disservice to our fellow nurses not to give them THE REST OF THE STORY not half of it. And let them make up their own mind.
After all aren't the unions saying that nurses should have a say in things. In order to have an intelligent say in things one must have ALL the facts.
Thanks to you and the other posters here for standing up. For your right to your opinion... Actually, the unions should be proud that we are so passionate.. Isn't that what they look for passionate people.
This isn't a promise. These are numbers from Bureau of Labor Statistics. Maybe there are a few cases where unions don't do better but, the vast majority of the time they do.
As I previously stated, in 2003 union RN's nationwide made $7,000 a year more, on average than non-union RN's. This in line with 2004 statistics from the BLS, which found that union workers in general make $9,000 a year more than non-union workers.
This is data from the Bush Labor Department. Not speculation. Unions across the board do better.
Gonna apologize up front here
Are you talking about the same Bush who told us there were WMD's?????????????????
It is funny I was thinking we never float - but then I realized that we actually do because I work OB, acute care, pp, ER, etc. But it isn't called "floating" it is called rural nursing. :)
steph
Many Many Many traveler have a NO FLOAT guarantee in their contract. And they whip it out PRN.
I've been traveling for 4 years. Have NEVER floated ONCE.
I think the only problem is when hospital policy allows unsafe acts (like floating nurses to specialties they are unsafe in). The individual nurse can still refuse, but then she is risking losing her job. That wouldn't be a huge problem for me, but some nurses don't feel they can risk that and take the assignment. I'm lucky in that travellers and registry float before regular staff (I believe that's part of the contract) so I have never had to float at my current job and I've been here over a year.
So let's push the envelope here and say the nurse takes the unsafe assignment ( when she should have gone to her supervisior or risk management or her Nurse Practice ACT) and a serious error occurs such as a fatality and she ultimately loses her license.
Specializes in Cardiac Critical Care, Trauma, Neuro..
At my Hospital in Orange County California our management has given us an 8%, then a 7% raise last year and we are due another 5% to 8% raise later this year. We are NOT a union facility, in fact Western Medical Center in Santa Ana voted against the CNA two years ago!
Hospital Management across the country know that in order to keep Nurses and attract new staff they have to remain competative. If they are not then they must be paying out big bucks to registries and travel nurses.
At my Hospital in Orange County California our management has given us an 8%, then a 7% raise last year and we are due another 5% to 8% raise later this year. We are NOT a union facility, in fact Western Medical Center in Santa Ana voted against the CNA two years ago!
Hospital Management across the country know that in order to keep Nurses and attract new staff they have to remain competative. If they are not then they must be paying out big bucks to registries and travel nurses.
Sherwood,
Isn't it interesting that unions have lost many MALE members over the years. The stats bare out the fact that union membership is falling.
Nursing has been a low paying profession for YEARS. And yet the unions never offered us anything until they got desperate. The have ruined their reputation with most male professions.
And it's also interesting that they've had to persue members of a mostly female profession.
A group of people who have been ulturistic and given tirelessly of themselves for years.
They can't get men to join unions in other occupations so now they have to go to female occupations.
It's taken them a hundred years to convince 65,000 of California's 300,000 nurses to join them. That's just over 20% of California nurses. Not real massive number to me........And not a majority by any definition of the word.
They've had to go clear to Chicago to recruit nurses. Interesting.
So let's push the envelope here and say the nurse takes the unsafe assignment ( when she should have gone to her supervisior or risk management or her Nurse Practice ACT) and a serious error occurs such as a fatality and she ultimately loses her license.
How far ahead is she then??????
You're preaching to the choir on that one. BUT, like I said, a lot of nurses will risk patient safety rather than lose their jobs. I've seen it. Are you honestly telling me that you think every nurse will stand up to management and refuse to float to an area they are unfamiliar with? Cause that hasn't been my experience.
Now that I'm travelling I float before staff. I've only had to float to peds and newborn nursery, but you should have seen the drama that followed me telling the peds charge nurse I would only take babies and not the 13 year old and 17 year olds she had assigned me. A lot of people are more concerned about job security and will just take the assignment and hope nothing goes wrong.
A little history lesson is in order. Nurses have not always had the right /protection of the labor laws which allow formation of nursing unions. When I started in nursing, nursing unions in, the private sector, weren't allowed by law. It wasn't until the mid to late 1970 's that labor law protection was extended to RNs in the private sector. So the comment about taking a 100 years by CNA to organize RNs is way off base. Yes, in the American economy unionism is declining in the private sector, but the jobs that were typically unionized are also declining. This is do to technology and the movement of jobs from the states where unions were strong to the right to work states were by law unions were weak and finally to different countries where workers are paid pennies on the dollar as compared to the US.
As to the comment refering to gender, ie the Unions were only interested in Male workers and were not interested in female workers, again shows a lack of knowledge about the demographics of employment during the last century in America. Women were an important part of early unionization of the factories in the late 19th and early 20th centuries in this country. As this country became more industrialized during the 1900's and more unionized then now, it was possible to have one bread winner families. The Mom stayed home with and raised the children while Dad was employed outside the home. Therefore there was a significantly higher per centage of males in the workplace then today. Ut wasn't until the deliberate inflation of the US economy in the 1970's to pay for the Vietnam war and neutralize the oil weapon of OPEC that the female portion of the US workforce began to grow. Same time frame as when RN gained the legal protection to form Unions.
That's just over 20% of California nurses. Not real massive number to me........And not a majority by any definition of the word.
Sherwood
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Nurses grassroots campaign at Scripps Encinitas Hospital leads to victory for RN's opposed to unionization by the California Nurses Association. The CNA, under pressure from a renewed decertification campaign accepts Scripps managements initial proposal. Nurses voted to accept a contract without a "union security clause". Scripps Encinitas is an "open shop". Professional RN's at Scripps can choose not to become CNA members and cannot be forced to pay union dues. Nurses may continue with their decertification drive removing the cloud of the CNA completely.
How many nurses will choose to become CNA members and pay dues for a contract that Scripps management is willing to give them for FREE? The CNA added a no strike clause for two years. How effective were their strikes at Scripps Encinitas?
Sherwood