CRNE new format for 2015? I am not the only one who's shocked, but also the CNA!

dishes, BSN, RN · Dec 10, 2011

I think the CNA is disappointed that the provincial regulating bodies awarded the contract to the National Council of State Boards of Nursing instead of Assessment Strategies Inc. The CNA are claiming the content of the computerized exam will be American, but this is not accurate, the content of the exam will be Canadian and will be developed by Canadian nurses, experts,and educators.

Fiona59 · Dec 10, 2011

Reading the companies press release, I don't know about it being truly Canadian

https://www.ncsbn.org/3048.htm

It's basically saying that NCLEX is the way Canada is going.

It's never a good thing when one company dominates a small marketplace.

OgopogoLPN, LPN, RN · Dec 10, 2011

Yikes, I better follow what's happening...if I stay on my self imposed timeline, I will be writing the CRNE in 2015, or 2016 at the latest. Either way, it will be the new format.

joanna73, BSN, RN · Dec 10, 2011

It depends on what the new exam format will actually look like. There are certain elements that will have to remain truly Canadian because our health care systems are different. However, the NCLEX is much more knowledge based from what I noticed. I don't think that is a bad thing.

I guess we will have to wait and see. I remember sitting there in 2010 and thinking that more than a few questions on the CRNE had very little to do with anything.

dishes, BSN, RN · Dec 10, 2011

gailtan

To answer your questions

1. The provincial regulatory bodies are completely aware of the decision, they are the ones who made it.

2. The provincial regulators will be overseeing the exam content, when the time comes, the regulating bodies will put out a call for Canadian nursing experts and educators to participate in the development of the exam questions see the CNO release in this thread https://allnurses.com/canadian-nurses/crne-coming-computer-649772.html

If you want to be involved in the development of the exam watch for the call for participants, submit your application and hope you are accepted.

dishes

dishes, BSN, RN · Dec 10, 2011

Fiona

Based on their media release, I think the media contacts at NSCBN are not very politically astute.

Agree with you that it is never a good thing when one company has a monopoly on the market, but if NSCBN's proposal was superior to and cheaper than the competitors, how can the provincial regulators justify turning it down?

dishes

gailtan · Dec 12, 2011

So, by the year 2015, CRNE will not exist.-according to CNA President

http://m.youtube.com/#/profile?autoplay=True&bmb=1&channel_id=0&desktop_uri=%2Fuser%2FCNAVideos%3Ffeature%3Dmhee&feature=mhee&gl=CA&help=False&livestreaming_tutorial=False&start=0&tab=&user=CNAVideos&v=f0unECD_884&view=videos&ytsession=%7B%7D

fenders · Dec 12, 2011

That'll be interesting. They wil definately have to change the content especially dosages, measurements etc. The canadian exam which I remember did have questions about our health care system which I think is where alot of international nurses failed on (im not 100% sure). I wrote the Nclex last year. There were tons of knowledge questions that were also psychosocial and alot of tasking questions such as delgating your work etc. I loved how you could get your results within hours using a trick which was accurate for me. It was painful waiting 6-8 weeks for the CRNE results. i was lucky my ICU experience helped me witht he knowledge questions. but i had some questions that talked about diseases I've never even heard of before. I just preyed that the test questions they threw in were the ones I got wrong. Glad i got those two out of the way.

dishes, BSN, RN · Dec 30, 2011

there were about twenty more posts on this thread that occurred between dec 14 and 24, but it seems they were lost when the system was updated. i would like to revive the discussion because i think the decision to award the nursing exam contract to the american company ncsbn rather than the cna is controversial. some of the points of controversy discussed in the rnao's letter to the cno were :

1) the impact of selecting a foreign company on canadian health system principles and values, as well as on the canadian economy; and 2) the impact of loss of control over test data and personal information on nurses’ privacy and security and on nursing workforce. below is rnao's letter and the cno's response (note the authoritative tone in cno's letter)

registered nurses' association of ontario: rnao letter to cno re rn exam december 13 2011

http://www.rnao.org/storage/86/8035_grinspun_doris_re__rn_exam_12-16-11.pdf

Pediatric Critical Care Columnist · Dec 30, 2011

CNO's response comes across to me as a rather bullying piece. It glosses over the personal privacy concerns rather well, don't you think? And there's not a lot of assurance that the content of the new exam will reflect Canadian nursing knowledge. Interesting.

dishes, BSN, RN · Dec 30, 2011

Jan

As an Ontario nurse who has read hundreds of different communications from the CNO , I can say the tone in the letter is pretty typical of the CNO and the tone in their communication is a major reason Ontario nurses do not question or challenge CNO's decisions. In their letter, the CNO only answered the RNAO's questions that pertained to the the CNO's mandate. The CNO is not concerned about the social/political implications associated with their decision, they are only concerned the exam provider will test the entry to practice competencies, expertly, accurately and cost effectively. I agree that there is not a lot of assurance that the exam will have Canadian content, I am beginning to think the exam will consist of the current NCLEX exam questions with slight modifications as suggested by Canadian nurses educators and experts. In addition, the CNO will require new nurses to write a jurisprudence exam before becoming registered. The jurisprudence exam will test the nurses knowledge of legislation, standards and regulatory policies relevant to nursing practice in Ontario.

dishes