CRNAs Looking Down on NPs

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Hey guys. I'm currently in a NP program. I'm working fulltime and doing the program, so to say the least I'm very busy! I was talking to a friend who is a CRNA and he really ticked me off. He was saying "All NP students are people who tried to get into CRNA school and wasn't good enough". That kind of attitude is so infuriating. I have never wanted to be a CRNA, and have very good grades and GRE scores. Have you noticed this superior attitudes with other CRNA's? Wonder why? Is it because they are so highly paid??

First off, CRNA's DO make bank! We just hired one for $80 an hour straight out of school with overtime potential and on call pay. Secondly, NO and I mean NOOO CRNA should treat another ANP with that attitude. It is unprofessional and arogant. I would have put him in his/her place. We have plenty of CRNA's in our work and they treat all staff from CNA's to MD's with respect and thats how it should be.

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Specializes in Emergency, MCCU, Surgical/ENT, Hep Trans.

Ask a CRNA how much their is, I think you'll be shocked to find out, it's a minimum of 20-30x that of a NP, more than the cost of that BMW!

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First off, CRNA's DO make bank! We just hired one for $80 an hour straight out of school with overtime potential and on call pay. Secondly, NO and I mean NOOO CRNA should treat another ANP with that attitude. It is unprofessional and arogant. I would have put him in his/her place. We have plenty of CRNA's in our work and they treat all staff from CNA's to MD's with respect and thats how it should be.

I know a FNP who makes $90 per hour working at an onsite clinic at a meat packing company. Honestly, I don't think the people in HR researched NP pay, so this guy totally lucked out. I love it though, because I get to fill in for him when he's on vacation - he gets 4 weeks of paid vacation per year. They pay me $85/hr plus hotel, meals and mileage. The toughest thing about that job is after I leave, because then I'm working much harder for a lot less money!

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Ask a CRNA how much their malpractice insurance is, I think you'll be shocked to find out, it's a minimum of 20-30x that of a NP, more than the cost of that BMW!

What? Are you serious? I believe the CRNA's I work with pay around $4000 to $7000 a year, depending on years of experiences and other factors.

What is the average malpractice for NPs? Like $800 to $1300 dollars a year? Where did you get those facts that they pay 20 to 30 times more? Heck, I pay $200 a year for my 1 million dollar coverage and I'm an ICU nurse...times that by 30 and NOW you are looking at a CRNA's cost for malpractice.

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Specializes in NICU, Post-partum.
Hey guys. I'm currently in a NP program. I'm working fulltime and doing the program, so to say the least I'm very busy! I was talking to a friend who is a CRNA and he really ticked me off. He was saying "All NP students are people who tried to get into CRNA school and wasn't good enough". That kind of attitude is so infuriating. I have never wanted to be a CRNA, and have very good grades and GRE scores. Have you noticed this superior attitudes with other CRNA's? Wonder why? Is it because they are so highly paid??

Sounds like for someone with a graduate degree, he's not very smart.

I personally don't care about how much money they make...to make a career off of standing in one place administering drugs all day....boring, boring, boring.

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Specializes in Emergency, MCCU, Surgical/ENT, Hep Trans.

"Rates are determined on a state by state basis. Probably the average is around $6000 per year for $1/3 million coverage. It is a lot more than what you pay as an RN." (Yoga CRNA, 2004).

"12 to 18K a year depending on history, location etc. If you get it day to day... expect to payabout $90/day for minimal coverage" (cessnadriver, 2009).

Your million = $18K, I would carry a MINIMUM of $1000K (probably $3000K is more realistic in today's dollars). $100/day x4d/week = $20K/yr (again, this is minimum). Now granted, probably a lot of employers, pay for the insurance within the group, but it IS a factor.

What I did not look up is how the practice forces the insurance to go up (e.g. OB, Cardz, plastics). And, that little slip, occasionally, like with car insurance? California, NY, I assume some states cost far more than others.

At the end of the day, a productive NP who pays, probably double or triple what an RN pays for a $1000k, may come near(er) to a CRNA. You have to admit, insurance cost is a factor!

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What? Are you serious? I believe the CRNA's I work with pay around $4000 to $7000 a year, depending on years of experiences and other factors.

What is the average malpractice for NPs? Like $800 to $1300 dollars a year? Where did you get those facts that they pay 20 to 30 times more? Heck, I pay $200 a year for my 1 million dollar coverage and I'm an ICU nurse...times that by 30 and NOW you are looking at a CRNA's cost for malpractice.

The CRNA's I know pay around 10K per year for coverage, although they don't have to pay it, the hospital does.

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Specializes in Nephrology, Cardiology, ER, ICU.

We've kinda gotten of track here. ]

Personally, I just don't care if any CRNA looks down on me...that's totally irrelevant to me doing my job.

As to their , well when the risks go up so do the costs.

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I have had students ask for years which is the better option. The answer is really quite simple. Do you have a good personality? If yes, NP.

Wow, pretty insulting to CRNAs... I would wonder how NP would feel if that same question was asked and the answer was. " If you have mediocre grades and a room temp IQ... NP"?

Some of us CRNAs have actually developed quite good personalities.

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Specializes in Neuro ICU.

Love it.....I had been trying to come up with a good reply for the CRNA haters but nothing was coming to me that was any good. Glad I waited on you to reply!!!! :yeah:

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Wow, pretty insulting to CRNAs... I would wonder how NP would feel if that same question was asked and the answer was. " If you have mediocre grades and a room temp IQ... NP"?

Some of us CRNAs have actually developed quite good personalities.

But...as we see...little sense of humor :yeah:

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Specializes in Neuro ICU.

Give me a break...that was not meant to be humor, but I do think she has a sense of humor because I thought her statement was pretty funny. Seriously, why all the hate??? Are you guys unhappy with your jobs because for the life of me I can't see why you would choose to say all we do is sit around all day and do nothing and spend this long on a thread unless you have issues with your own job. My mother in law and sister in law are both NP's and are completely happy with their choice....and they are happy with mine. :nurse: Remember...we are ALL nurses.

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