Could research publications make it difficult to find a job?

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Greetings allnurses! I recently graduated with my BSN. I maintained a 4.0 GPA, recieved nearly every academic award possible from my university, started a student organization that was very active in the community, worked on a large, grant-funded community project, published two research articles in professional journals and presented research at several conferences around the United States. I assumed that my accomplishments would better enable me to find employment; however, the opposite has been true. I applied for two internships and was denied for both. One was at the VA and the other was a local hospital. During my interview at the local hospital, the nurse in charge of the internship program was very skeptical about my research. She stated that she was in her Phd program and has yet to publish research, so how could I (as an undergrad) publish two research studies. As a new nurse, what types of qualities should I present during an interview? I thought research publication was an incredible accomplishment that would be praised by employers; however thus far in my job search, I feel it has hindered my success.

I appreciate any advice from experienced nurses. I started this post as an attempt to gain some feedback concerning what I could be doing better during interviews that would enhance my chances of obtaining a job.

I did reveal that I worked with my professors on the research projects during my interviews. I learned a great deal from my first research project and was then hired by my university to continue to conduct research; therefore, this experience is on my resume as previous employment. For this reason, I revealed the details of my responsibilities in these projects during my interview.

Specializes in Critical Care.

You are probably coming off as a know-it-all to be honest.

At at the bedside, practical experience is valued over academic accomplishments. Do you have experiencing working in health care? Did you work as a tech or student nurse? What is your previous work experience?

I think the mangers may be afraid you cannot handle the work of nursing and you are only focused on research. What is your goal? Do you want to work at the bedside with patients? You need to focus on patient care in the interviews.

I don't mean this to be insulting at all. Those are wonderful accomplishments. But they don't say a lot about how you will function at the bedside.

Revealing that you "worked with (for?) your professors" isn't quite the same as saying you were a "did research as an undergrad."

I am conflicted about the advice to give you, because if there's anything I dislike as much as people discounting nursing due to ignorance, it's nurses who feel constrained to minimize their accomplishments. However, needs must. Since you are applying for a beginner-level clinical position, and presumably mean to stay at it for more than the trendy 1-year-and-I-go-do-something-so-much-more-important, I would, regretfully, recommend that you tone it down for now, if just a bit. You could imply that you did this work for them to help pay for your tuition, for example (and that's probably true), rather than emphasizing how important you were in it and how it led to another research-related gig.

Sure, you have something on your work history that says you got hired as a researcher. (BTW, you do know that you don't have to put that on your clinical nursing resume at this point in your career, right?) And you are right, somebody probably will ask you about it. So you might want to reconsider the answer you give them. Remember that they are not interviewing you for a research position and they don't, actually, really want to know all that much about it. Swing your answer around to what they called you in for, which is a new grad clinical position. You don't need to relate it to research (actually, since they don't really care about it, you'd be well-advised not to).

Focus on why you are there, and save your passion for another time. I have every confidence that time will come.

If you're going into the interview showing passion for research, that is the reason you're not being considered. Don't get me wrong- RNs who WANT to research is amazing, because I would rather work bagging groceries than do nursing research. But if you're interviewing to intern in positions at the bedside, you are not showing passion for that type of nursing. Just my opinion. Employers want to know how you will make a difference at the bedside. How you will advocate for patients, treat them with respect and uphold your integrity. We are all using evidence based practice, but if your only strengths lie in research, and research alone, you are not a good candidate for floor nursing.

Specializes in Critical Care, ED, Cath lab, CTPAC,Trauma.
I appreciate any advice from experienced nurses. I started this post as an attempt to gain some feedback concerning what I could be doing better during interviews that would enhance my chances of obtaining a job.

I did reveal that I worked with my professors on the research projects during my interviews. I learned a great deal from my first research project and was then hired by my university to continue to conduct research; therefore, this experience is on my resume as previous employment. For this reason, I revealed the details of my responsibilities in these projects during my interview.

I get it I really do...but we ALL modify our strengths and weaknesses to suit the position we are being interviewed.

For example...I have TONS of management experience but when applying to a bedside ED experience I draw attention to my ED trauma experience and away from management. You modify your interview to the position.

When interviewing for an education position you gear and focus on your teaching strengths. The interviewer is looking at a limited time to get a feel for you and how you fit with the organization and floor/unit. Yes you did those things and learned a ton but you want a clinical position so focus on your clinical abilities/attributes.

How will YOU fit in clinically with the group? What clinical attributes are you looking for and can offer.

Specializes in Cardiac, ER, Pediatrics, Corrections.

Sorry this is happening to you. It sounds like you are quite accomplished and worked hard! It may be an intimidation thing..? I recently had an interview and the nurse interviewed me looked at my resume and said "Oh you're a BSN? I'm not even a BSN. We got a hot shot here." I was a little startled. I'm NO hot shot haha! I don't care and I don't judge you on your education choices. Why judge me on mine? Sad sad sad.

Specializes in Nursing Professional Development.

I agree with most of what previous posters have said. Managers are not looking to hire the "most accomplished" applicant. They are looking for the applicant who will:

1. Have a passion for the type of work and patient population they are being hired for. Your passion for your research topic makes it appear that you are NOT passionate about being a good beginner-level bedside RN.

2. Fit in well with the rest of the staff. Someone who is "too different" complicates the interpersonal dynamics of the unit, thus making problems for everyone involved. No manager wants to make problems for themselves.

3. Stay in that job long enough to be worth the financial investment of orientation / mentoring etc.

I misunderstood the OP's first post -- in which it appeared she was the leader of the projects, publications, etc. I wonder if her resume and interview style similarly mis-conveyed her role in those projects.

My recommendation: Leave the publications and activities on the resume, but be sure the resume (AND your way of discussing them) gives proper credit to your professor as the person directing the activities. Such things can help you get an interview.

But you should also emphasize your interest in the specific job role and patient population you are seeking to work with now in your resume -- and especially in your interview. Appear grateful for the great learning opportunity your professor gave you ... but express how you are now ready to get on with YOUR career interests, which involve working with THIS particular population in THIS particular role. Highlight your clinical skills, etc. and show that you will be a good fit for this particular position -- because "being a good fit" is what will get you the job far more than having been a good student.

I seriously doubt jealousy has much, if anything, to do with it. They are looking to hire the best person for the job -- the one that "fits" best and who will cause them the fewest problems.

Specializes in ICU, LTACH, Internal Medicine.

OP, problem with anti-intellectualism exists almost everywhere. Even having a bit better assessment skills can be totally detrimental for a new grad, let alone research experience.

IMH (umble) opinion, you need two different resumes. The one for floor/new grad positions should either minimize your scientific achievements or not have any mention about them altogether and generally follow the rules appropriate for new grad with your level of BEDSIDE experience (enthusiasm, dedication for specialty, etc). The second resume should emphasize your research experience. It can come handy if you want work in community health, public health, nursing research, research associate in your former school, r maybe even in quality control. Such jobs are less plentiful than bedside openings but one never knows.

One more word of caution: do not ask the professor with whom you published the articles to be your reference contact for bedside positions. She may say things about you which would be great for one situation and totally detrimental for another. Your clinical instructors will provide better feedback.

Even having a bit better assessment skills can be totally detrimental for a new grad, let alone research experience.

Would love to hear the story behind that assertion.

Specializes in ICU, LTACH, Internal Medicine.

I was spoken to very unprofessionally, to put things mildly, for discovering mild symptoms on a patient just from vascular lab right after my preceptor did assessment and found nothing. She missed 90% of standard neurocheck; I did the full one, found assymetry on swallowing and murmur on carotid not mentioned anywhere before, asked to verify and was told to pretty much shut up. Other nurse overheard, called stroke team and the patient was found to have microemboli on scan. The preceptor just couldn't digest the fact that it was a lowly new grad, not she, who was being praised, and did all she could to make my life there a living nightmare.

In another unit of the same place I and another nurse were written up and I was told to do "only assessment that is absolutely necessary" for me discovering and the nurse confirming new clonus on a deeply sedated, therapeutically paralyzed patient. That time, my unnecessary assessment "could disturb the patient and the family". Nevermind that we found spinal stroke in its very beginning.

Given, the place is known for its insane level of obsession about customer service and for having less than humanely acceptable working environment. One CRNA, also a new one was fired from there for finding murmur on a patient and stopping surgery. The murmur happened to be mitral stenosis; if the patient had been made it to the table, he would probably die right after induction of anesthesia.

We both found other jobs since, and the ones where our abilities are appreciated.

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