According to the Associated Press as cited in the Post article, "Cuba has made recent advancements in biotechnology and exports its treatments to 40 countries around the world, raking in an estimated $100 million a year. ... In 2004, the U.S. government granted an exception to its economic embargo against Cuba and allowed a California drug company to test three cancer vaccines developed in Havana."
A baby born in El Salvador has a better chance of surviving than a baby born in Detroit.
According to the United Nations Statistics Division, Population and Vital Statistics Report, the rate of infant deaths per thousand in El Salvador is 10.5. "Table 3, Live births, deaths, and infant deaths, latest available year, June 15, 2007." http://unstats.un.org/unsd/demographic/products/vitstats/serATab3.pdf
According to the Michigan Department of Community Health, the rate of infant deaths for Detroit is 15.9 per thousand. "Number of Infant Deaths, Live Births and Infant Death Rates for Selected Cities of Residence, 2005 and 2001 - 2005 Average," Michigan Department of Community Health Web Site, http://www.mdch.state.mi.us/pha/osr/InDxMain/Tab4.asp.
People don't want universal health care because we don't want a 20% increase in taxes to pay for it. We don't want to pay for Nancy Pelosis's constituents to have sex change operations. We don't want to pay for health care for illegal aliens. Perhaps if you liberals started to have to foot the bill for these things your attitudes would change. I guarantee all of you want universal heath care but none of you want to pay for it. When everyone pays the additional $1000/month per person in your family that this entitilement will cost then I want to hear how great you think universal health care is. Liberals are long on lip service but short on proividing the capital to fund these grand tax schemes.
Access to affordable health care is a basic human right. The academically sourced evidence does not support your allegations rather it is exactly the opposite.
It's over exaggerated and pretty inaccurate. An ER can't forcefully remove someone- EMTLA. I seriously wonder where Moore came up with these stories.
I disagree with you! Just what is it about the healthcare crisis in America that you think is exaggerated and inaccurate? It's the number one issue that concerns voters this election year. Don't shoot the messenger; Michael Moore's documentary and the people in it who told their stories are for real. I've met them, spent time with them, (or their surviving family members), and we all need to help solve the crisis, by demanding passage of HR 676.
IF you saw the movie, Mr. Moore tells you right up front where the stories came from.
As part of a pre-release screening tour of the movie SiCKO, myself and members of the California Nurses Association/National Nurses Organizing Committee saw the movie several times and participated at legislative hearings where Mr. Moore and victims and their families and former industry insiders presented compelling, factual, and credible testimony. We talk with patients, families, and hundreds of other nurses around the country who attest to the fact that the documentary SiCKO validates the crisis that we're witnessing.
Re: EMTALA? Any patient who "comes to the emergency department" requesting "examination or treatment for a medical condition" must be provided with "an appropriate medical screening examination" to determine if he is suffering from an "emergency medical condition". A transfer of a patient who is not experiencing an "emergency medical condtion" is permitted and is not restricted by the statute in any way.
That being said, abuses and the bottom line financial goals of institutions continue to exist to the detriment of patients and their families. It's cheaper for them to pay the fines if they get caught endangering patients than provide patients with the treatment they deserve to restore them to optimal health.
"City officials have accused more than a dozen hospitals of dumping patients and criminals on Skid Row. Hospital officials have denied the allegations...."
Please tell me how lobbyists will not have influence on socialized medicine? You think there are a lot of lobbyists now wait till the tax payers are funding the program.
Tax payers are already funding the majority of the health care in this country; paying more per capita than all the other industrialized nations and we're getting less. Why should we continue to subsidize private insurers when that money could be spent by providing actual care for patients. Should corporations and their campaign contributions be allowed to "bribe" the legislators that we the people elect? For sure we need campaign finance reform laws and clean money elections.
Just because you have more money doesn't mean you should be able to purchase more influence in a democracy. It's about being part of an informed citizenry and holding our elected officials accountable. If they don't do the work of the people, and represent the interests of the people, then we need to vote them out of office! We have a socialized education system, police and fire protection, court system, National Park System, and socialized medical care for seniors and veterans. We can and should extend MediCare to everyone.
Watch SiCKO, and take action against the Congressional "Golden Ticket" holders! We need to repeal MediCare, part D, and repair the damage done by legislators who took corporate cash in exchange for their support of this unconscionable piece of legislation. Part D limits government and enriches insurers and pharmaceutical companies at the expense of our elderly!
Just because there are cheaters and liars and thieves who steal from the public, is no reason stand in the way of the good that will be provided to everyone who will have access to all medically necessary care. I support HR 676; it's just, affordable, and publicly accountable. It's our right to health care, and we've had enough of the greedy crooks and their marketing minions controlling and limiting and denying our access to it!
Anyone living in Detroit has a lower life expectancy rate. As well as New Orleans, D.C., Chicago, L.A. or anyone of several other crime ridden cities run by Liberals. Anyone who has to use U.N. statistics might as well just make them up themslves. Half the U.N. is run by murderers, thugs, and dictators. Is this the same U.N. whose peacekeapers are consistently raping young children in Africa? Or is this the America hating U.N. that was involved with the oil for food scam in Iraq?
A baby born in El Salvador has a better chance of surviving than a baby born in Detroit.
According to the United Nations Statistics Division, Population and Vital Statistics Report, the rate of infant deaths per thousand in El Salvador is 10.5. "Table 3, Live births, deaths, and infant deaths, latest available year, June 15, 2007." http://unstats.un.org/unsd/demographic/products/vitstats/serATab3.pdf
According to the Michigan Department of Community Health, the rate of infant deaths for Detroit is 15.9 per thousand. "Number of Infant Deaths, Live Births and Infant Death Rates for Selected Cities of Residence, 2005 and 2001 - 2005 Average," Michigan Department of Community Health Web Site, http://www.mdch.state.mi.us/pha/osr/InDxMain/Tab4.asp.
Money doesn't corrupt legislators they do that by themselves. The amount of lobbying that will take effect once the government runs health care will be astronomical. How many lobbyists are going to be out there trying to get their hands on the tax payer funds? To think that all the money going into the treasury will just find it's way to helping the sick and needy is a joke.
Tax payers are already funding the majority of the health care in this country; paying more per capita than all the other industrialized nations and we're getting less. Why should we continue to subsidize private insurers when that money could be spent by providing actual care for patients. Should corporations and their campaign contributions be allowed to "bribe" the legislators that we the people elect? For sure we need campaign finance reform laws and clean money elections.
Just because you have more money doesn't mean you should be able to purchase more influence in a democracy. It's about being part of an informed citizenry and holding our elected officials accountable. If they don't do the work of the people, and represent the interests of the people, then we need to vote them out of office! We have a socialized education system, police and fire protection, court system, National Park System, and socialized medical care for seniors and veterans. We can and should extend MediCare to everyone.
Watch SiCKO, and take action against the Congressional "Golden Ticket" holders! We need to repeal MediCare, part D, and repair the damage done by legislators who took corporate cash in exchange for their support of this unconscionable piece of legislation. Part D limits government and enriches insurers and pharmaceutical companies at the expense of our elderly!
Just because there are cheaters and liars and thieves who steal from the public, is no reason stand in the way of the good that will be provided to everyone who will have access to all medically necessary care. I support HR 676; it's just, affordable, and publicly accountable. It's our right to health care, and we've had enough of the greedy crooks and their marketing minions controlling and limiting and denying our access to it!
There is no health care crisis in this country except to people with an agenda.
I disagree with you! Just what is it about the healthcare crisis in America that you think is exaggerated and inaccurate? It's the number one issue that concerns voters this election year. Don't shoot the messenger; Michael Moore's documentary and the people in it who told their stories are for real. I've met them, spent time with them, (or their surviving family members), and we all need to help solve the crisis, by demanding passage of HR 676.
IF you saw the movie, Mr. Moore tells you right up front where the stories came from.
As part of a pre-release screening tour of the movie SiCKO, myself and members of the California Nurses Association/National Nurses Organizing Committee saw the movie several times and participated at legislative hearings where Mr. Moore and victims and their families and former industry insiders presented compelling, factual, and credible testimony. We talk with patients, families, and hundreds of other nurses around the country who attest to the fact that the documentary SiCKO validates the crisis that we're witnessing.
Re: EMTALA? Any patient who "comes to the emergency department" requesting "examination or treatment for a medical condition" must be provided with "an appropriate medical screening examination" to determine if he is suffering from an "emergency medical condition". A transfer of a patient who is not experiencing an "emergency medical condtion" is permitted and is not restricted by the statute in any way.
That being said, abuses and the bottom line financial goals of institutions continue to exist to the detriment of patients and their families. It's cheaper for them to pay the fines if they get caught endangering patients than provide patients with the treatment they deserve to restore them to optimal health.
"City officials have accused more than a dozen hospitals of dumping patients and criminals on Skid Row. Hospital officials have denied the allegations...."
A baby born in El Salvador has a better chance of surviving than a baby born in Detroit.
If accurate, this statistic has no relation to healthcare, and everything to do with the pitiful social conditions (created by government interference) that exist in inner cities, such as absentee parents, teenage pregnancy, drug, alcohol and nicotine abuse, poor diet, obesity and lack of responsibility in choosing to access available healthcare services.
I challenge you to find a single county in this country that does NOT provide prenatal services for uninsured women, and preventive healthcare and nutrition services to infants and young children thru health departments, public health clinics, faith-based clinics and/or academic medical centers.
Maternal-child health can and should be held up as an example of a segment of the healthcare system that is available free of charge to those who CHOOSE to be responsible and access it.
Furthermore, a preemie born in El Salvador is deemed a pregnancy loss, not a live birth and subsequent neonatal death, so the comparison of neonatal and infant mortality in these 2 countries is simply not accurate.
Anyone living in Detroit has a lower life expectancy rate. As well as New Orleans, D.C., Chicago, L.A. or anyone of several other crime ridden cities run by Liberals. Anyone who has to use U.N. statistics might as well just make them up themslves. Half the U.N. is run by murderers, thugs, and dictators. Is this the same U.N. whose peacekeapers are consistently raping young children in Africa? Or is this the America hating U.N. that was involved with the oil for food scam in Iraq?
Please stop filling this thread with your venemous preconceived notions, and look at the responses you've gotten. For the avalanche of posters from concerned people, who have taken their time to correct your spewing of politically motivated drivel and have given correct information from reliable sources, I thank you - but enough, already!
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