Conservative school for DNP?

nursetim, NP · Mar 15, 2012

Good luck with that. I think higher education these days and conservatism are mutually exclusive.

ddunnrn · Mar 15, 2012

I'm curious as to what exactly qualifies as a "liberal" agenda?

heron, ASN, RN · Mar 15, 2012

Or a conservative one, for that matter. Are you talking about social or fiscal "liberal agenda"?

myelin · Mar 15, 2012

So, against my better judgment, I am looking at DNP programs. I don't want to make the same mistake I did in Grad School and end up in a DNP program that is 100% about underserved populations and taught with a liberal agenda. For my next educational endeavor, I simply prefer to focus on the science. If you know of a DNP program in a school that has a conservative philosophy and focuses on CPGs and the standard of care, please let me know. Thanks.

I seriously lol'd.

msn10 · Mar 16, 2012

Since I am allergic to bees, I really should be running away from this hornet's nest, however...

I think you will have a very hard time finding what you are looking for because schools get a great deal of funding from the government and/or grants. When those 2 entities give away money, their main priority is to give to the under-served/underprivileged populations. Furthermore, nursing schools need to practice or do clinicals in under-served areas because the wealthier community hospitals don't want students but the inner city clinics and hospitals can't pay enough to keep a full RN staff on board so they welcome us with open arms. Just like medical residents, NP students fill a need and in return - get to practice on the under-served.

LuxCalidaNP · Mar 16, 2012

Wow...equating conservatism with avoiding the under-served...

Agree with the previous posts: higher education has historically focused on issues of social engagement, contribution, and personal responsibility, ESP in the sciences, and frankly, I have only found that these values increase with position on the academic ladder. I think you'll find programs either support this science "liberal agenda" (lol), or you'd have the option of attending a religious-based programs, which A) may challenge the actual practice of science and medicine with differing ethics and B)...that often focus on working with the under-served.

SHGR, MSN, RN, CNS · Mar 17, 2012

So, against my better judgment, I am looking at DNP programs. I don't want to make the same mistake I did in Grad School and end up in a DNP program that is 100% about underserved populations and taught with a liberal agenda. For my next educational endeavor, I simply prefer to focus on the science. If you know of a DNP program in a school that has a conservative philosophy and focuses on CPGs and the standard of care, please let me know. Thanks.

I just want to say, I work in a clinic that serves the underserved. Diabetes education is my main focus. My whole teaching program is so simple you wouldn't believe it. When I actually teach someone who knows about label reading, knows what a carbohydrate is, has the life skills to be able to articulate a symptom and understand directions, it's like I don't know what to do anymore. I really get where the OP is coming from. To be able to focus on the science without being the social worker, translator (AAVE), and advocate, would make what I do completely different. I like it. It is definitely not for everyone.

Sorry I can't answer your question though. Try looking for schools that have you find your own preceptor in your desired area.

mammac5 · Mar 17, 2012

My initial thought was, also, "Good luck with that!"

allnurses Guide · Mar 18, 2012

So, against my better judgment, I am looking at DNP programs. I don't want to make the same mistake I did in Grad School and end up in a DNP program that is 100% about underserved populations and taught with a liberal agenda. For my next educational endeavor, I simply prefer to focus on the science. If you know of a DNP program in a school that has a conservative philosophy and focuses on CPGs and the standard of care, please let me know. Thanks.

Wow...so liberal means NOT focusing on the science??? And you only want to do clinicals with affluent, conservative patients??? Good luck to you. Maybe you should reconsider, espcially since it's against your better judgement to go back to school anyway.

mammac5 · Mar 18, 2012

I'm not sure if this is what the OP meant, but I can give a bit of my own (very recent) experiences in school. We learned a LOT about underserved populations, healthcare reform, PPACA, racial healthcare disparities, community health service, volunteering, disaster services, etc. We learned NOTHING about how to deal with billing for insurance companies, how to get paid for what you do, diagnostic coding. We learned very little about procedural coding.

For me, that was okay because I had many years working outpatient in physician practices before I went for my ANP. For many other of my peers, that wasn't so good because now they are in their first jobs and have no idea how to make themselves valuable to their employers (by getting paid appropriately for services rendered) which is bound to have a negative effect on their salary negotiations.

I think there is great value in exposure to underserved populations and so forth; but not all of us intend to work in those type of positions and we need to be paid or we won't have jobs in the future.

heron, ASN, RN · Mar 18, 2012

What I'm struggling with is understanding what the OP meant by the "liberal/conservative" agenda thing ... and interested that s/he has not returned to clarify.