With the current news over gun control and gun rights legislation being pushed through Congress as a result of the tragedies of Aurora, CO, Newtown, CT and the others like them, the thought of concealed carry among healthcare workers has got my attention peaked. Recently, another Allnurses member started a thread (up to 22 pages presently) about what nurses can do as a result of these horrific events.
This post is not meant to reflect my personal stance on this issue, although I can inform that I am not a CCL holder (however interested), nor is it meant to be a bashing session from either side, but I am interested in seeing how many individuals have their concealed carry license, and if they carry while they are at work (and, yes I am well aware of the legal stance healthcare facilities take as being gun free zones)?
I, also, am aware of some of our members being both nurses and current/former law enforcement officers, so what is your take on this issue?
I doubt there are actually any statistics to back that up and I agree with the prison guards should not carry a firearm but in my situation, unlike if a prison guard carried a firearm. Nobody knows I have one.
If my hospital would step up there security I wouldn't feel the need to do it myself.
@heron -- Thanks for jumping in. Since it'd been four years since I was last on the forum, I did go back and re-read the entire thread, per your recommendation.
Only found one previous comment by the poster I reached out to. That prior comment does not relate to the specific issue I inquired about.
So I'm still not clear of the rationale underlying Muno's last post; and I'm just trying to fully understand her point of view on this.
@heron -- Thanks for jumping in. Since it'd been four years since I was last on the forum, I did go back and re-read the entire thread, per your recommendation.
Only found one previous comment by the poster I reached out to. That prior comment does not relate to the specific issue I inquired about.
So I'm still not clear of the rationale underlying Muno's last post; and I'm just trying to fully understand her point of view on this.
I actually wasn't necessarily thinking you'd find something from Muno specifically - although, as someone who uses firearms, he's frequently seen on these threads and is both moderate and very well informed. Just wanted to avoid re-covering old ground.
My point was, there are a plethora of arguments both for and against concealed carry in a hospital. I'm personally against the idea because i'm skeptical of the idea that the possession of a cc credential renders a person competent to function safely in an active shooter situation or that the weapon is guaranteed secure from being misused by someone other than the owner.
I actually wasn't necessarily thinking you'd find something from Muno specifically - although, as someone who uses firearms, he's frequently seen on these threads and is both moderate and very well informed. Just wanted to avoid re-covering old ground.
My point was, there are a plethora of arguments both for and against concealed carry in a hospital. I'm personally against the idea because i'm skeptical of the idea that the possession of a cc credential renders a person competent to function safely in an active shooter situation or that the weapon is guaranteed secure from being misused by someone other than the owner.
So you respond to a very specific question for clarity, a question that does not indicate a personal stance, by telling them to read the thread because it has been thoroughly addressed?
When the poster responds that they reviewed the thread and did not find the answer to their specific question you respond vaguely that there are "...arguments both for and against..." which by the way does not answer the specific question that was given to a specific person.
You then finish your response by providing your own opinion on the matter?
Have you read the thread or just trying to troll people who you are guessing have differing opinions because they simply asked for clarification from a specific person?
Havin' a party reported that s/he did not find an answer from a specific poster, not specific information. But, fair enough - s/he didn't find a post from Muno addressing that particular question.
I actually posted in this thread four years ago, among others on the same subject. They all pretty much cover the same ground, so I can forgive myself for assuming that the relative safety of concealed carry in a hospital job setting was addressed.
Meanwhile, why does it upset you so much that I have an opinion?
Specializes in Psych, Addictions, SOL (Student of Life).
I have a concealed carry permit though I hardly ever carry the thing. My first husband was a violent felon who I helped put in prison. When he was still out and we were separated I got the permit. Now that he is incarcerated I don't carry. The justice system is supposed to notify me if and when he gets out. I may start carrying again but I doubt I would carry at work.
My wife (retired RN) and I (current RN) both concealed everywhere that it's legal. Like most with a CCDW permit, we follow the law. That means that I can't carry at work. But I do keep a firearm locked in my vehicle while at work. These are strange times, and best to be prepared.
Specializes in MDS, Home Health, Hospice, Director.
I conceal carry... am on security team at church... but have not brought it into my work as it is not permitted. I do, however, park my truck rather close in case of an emergency and have a plan worked out in my mind if every needed.
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I doubt there are actually any statistics to back that up and I agree with the prison guards should not carry a firearm but in my situation, unlike if a prison guard carried a firearm. Nobody knows I have one.
If my hospital would step up there security I wouldn't feel the need to do it myself.