So we had clinicals today and tomorrow we have it. Its going be another long day.
I have to say the CNA-nursing aide constructor is the most unprofessional teacher I have ever seen in my life. It seems like just because he is a nurse he thinks he is above everybody else in the classroom. He talks down to students and has even talked down on me saying:"You cant do anything right. Look you are not even doing it right. You have book smarts but you need to practice on some of the skills." He is very rude. He downgrades everyone.
I thought to be a teacher you are supposed to teach them not ridicule them.
Im not the only person that has complained about him. The whole class has! When we were on break they were talking about how unprofessional he is.
He tried to rush us through the clinicals.
I honestly wish I could report him somewhere but I dont know. I just dont like the way he teaches and Im not the only one complaining.
You arent supposed to downgrade someone and make them feel bad. Its just downright uncalled for.
Im not even going to talk about the facility that we went to. The Cna's there were lazy! I saw a couple out there smoking it seemed like the whole time. The teacher was even talking to them most of the time and not even watching us. When we had questions we had to walk to find him.
I saw one resident with a scratch mark on her. It was red. She said one of the CNA's working there did it. The CNA then talked to us and then had a smirk on her face and said:"Now lady you know that is a lie." One of the students was like"R u going to clean it up" and the Cna just put a band aide over the blood and said she was going to clean it up later.
I went in one room and one resident was complaining about sitting on the toilet for a long time. I guess a nurse or CNA just left her there for awhile and didnt check up on her.
I almost dont even want to go there tomorrow. Its one more clinical and a final on monday. But this almost makes me not even want to get into nursing. Im starting to feel down on myself. I know there are some good nurses out there but he is just ridiculous.
So my question has anyone else experienced this and do you think this is unprofessional ????????
I have to agree. This sounds like the instructor is trying to toughen up your skin. Remember, when your in any kind of training, half is books, the other half is social. If you can't cut the mustard on both levels, then you need to find something else.
As a CNA, we are next to the bottom of the barrel. Yet, we are the most important element in the healthcare field. If anything, maybe it will motivate you to go further with your career later and to not become complaceint being a CNA. This way, when you become the RN, you will remember what it was like being a CNA and you will take a good CNA under your wings.
I believe that you can tell a Nurse by how they treat those that work with them and if they themselves worked up the food chain, verses just jumping into it as an RN. Usually those that are mavricks, will be kind. Those that didn't, will be mean and they will not understand a CNA's job.
Just think of it this way, they want to discourage you too if your good. Because they might feel threatend that you are making them look bad and you could later take their job.
But if your a slacking and just there for a paycheck CNA - and we have those out there, then I hate to say it.. but they have earned the right to be treated horribly.
I have to agree. This sounds like the instructor is trying to toughen up your skin. Remember, when your in any kind of training, half is books, the other half is social. If you can't cut the mustard on both levels, then you need to find something else.
As a CNA, we are next to the bottom of the barrel. Yet, we are the most important element in the healthcare field. If anything, maybe it will motivate you to go further with your career later and to not become complaceint being a CNA. This way, when you become the RN, you will remember what it was like being a CNA and you will take a good CNA under your wings.
I believe that you can tell a Nurse by how they treat those that work with them and if they themselves worked up the food chain, verses just jumping into it as an RN. Usually those that are mavricks, will be kind. Those that didn't, will be mean and they will not understand a CNA's job.
Just think of it this way, they want to discourage you too if your good. Because they might feel threatend that you are making them look bad and you could later take their job.
But if your a slacking and just there for a paycheck CNA - and we have those out there, then I hate to say it.. but they have earned the right to be treated horribly.
My 2 cents.
you made some valid points. im not entirely there for a paycheck . cnas dont make that much lol anyways. I do like helping others and im a very compassionate person. I minored in psychology when i went to school. I like giving advice, im supportive. I will admit that the paycheck of nursing makes me want to get into it as well . Im not going to lie. I think people that say they arent in it for the paycheck are mostly lying. But also a part of me wants to get into nursing because im a nurturing person. I feel bad for people that are sick or ill and want to make a difference.
ive seen many cna's at the clinical site that we went to for clinicals..that did not know what they were doing but they are working there and passed the state board. hm. I dont know why he sent us there. Im just a student. Im not going to perfect in mastering the skill right away. Im the type of person that has to practice a couple of times and then i get it down. He didnt give us much time to practice the skills that much. It was only a 10 day course with 2 clinicals. Thats why before I take the state test I want to give myself 3 weeks to practice. the teacher said i most likely will pass the written part since I got all A's in all my daily tests and an A on the final. Some of the skills are easy and some I need to work on like making an occupied bed, vital signs.
I went to a private class to take my CNA. And when I say private I mean that basically and RN started a CNA school. I think my tuition was 295 out of pocket which was pretty cheap at the time. I enjoyed my class, I think it lasted for 4 weeks, I can't remember it was so long ago. I passed my boards with no problem (except dumb dumb here didn't renew when i moved out of state ughhh:mad:)
When I was working as a CNA I was disgusted with the lack of caring I saw at these LTC's, it was like no one gave an *ish. That made me not want to be a nurse. Then, an LPN (as far as I was told) was fired because someone broke into her med cart and stole some type of narcotic and she was fired for it, and could possibly lose her license. I was like whoa, there's no way I'm going to be a nurse if something someone else does could cause you to lose your license. Well, here I am, almost 10 years later starting over. Looking for a CNA class and getting started on my pre-reqs this quarter for LPN (hope I get in, I have to!!)
Don't let these experiences deter you from becoming a nurse, and don't let anyone make u feel unaltruistic because you're wondering about your quality of life once you become a nurse. In this economy and the cost of living situation it's only natural to make sure your time and effort is rewarded. Nothing wrong with that!
Welcome to nursing. Being treated like dirt doesn't end when your class does- it's only the beginning.
Your instructor might be a jerk but you won't have to put up with him for long. And I would be careful about passing judgements on the CNAs at your clinicals. We get a post like once a week from a student complaining that the CNAs at theirs are "lazy and don't do anything right," and most of the time the student doesn't know what they're talking about. Clinicals are very different from the real thing.
Don't worry what the CNA teacher has to say or think because you won't be seeing him after you pass the class and your skills test. I hate to break it to you, but your peers and co-workers at work are going to be saying a lot worst things and doing a lot worst things when you aren't around them.
I had the nicest CNA teacher and I still keep in contact with her and a few of my classmates.
Specializes in PACU, LTC, Med-Surg, Telemetry, Psych.
As the above posters have said, it is common in this particular field.
My theories:
1. LPN or above must teach CNA classes at a pay cut. Many LPNs take these positions because they do not like dealing with people/ or do not wish to cope with a hospital/LTC job dealing with families. These type jobs appeal to those type folks.
2. Industry wide negative perception of CNAs by LPNs and above. Not always, but you will see this again more often than you will like even in the field. Some of it is justified, some of it not.
3. Nurses are going to flame me, but to some is a social structure in nursing where the further away from patients the 'better ' you are considered and more autonomy you have. It is not spoken of, but implied and has more adherents than you would think. I have worked a few places where all discussions with RNs in administration have been "one-way".... unless you are one of them. Once again, these type jobs appeal to those with this belief who have little other opportunity to advance. Teaching offers that autonomy, forced respect, and power to those type folks, so you see more of them there.
4. "Nurses eat their young."
Do not worry, it is not all bad. I had a jerk for a CNA instructor years back, too. That mean, petty battle axe had some of the CNA students run out in tears with her snide crap. It is not that crucial for a slightly above min. wage paying job training to be that way, but it happens.
When I took a CNA course I had 2 instructors and 1 who came every now and then. The course was wonderful and the instructors were emazing.. Except for the instructor who came every so often was very knowledgeable but she always picked on me. She had something negative to say about everything I did, had noting postitve to say but she never seemed to correct the other students when they did do something wrong. Sometimes you just have to brush it off. And as far as the CNAs not doing their job don't let that stop you from doing everything the correct way. When they see you doing everything by the books they will notice and HOPEFULLY (and I stress that lol) change their ways. You only have 2 days left.. You've come this far so don't give up. Keep your head up!!!!
P.S. If you feel that strongly about the instructor you should file a complaint... after you finish the course!
justthefacts8
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I have to agree. This sounds like the instructor is trying to toughen up your skin. Remember, when your in any kind of training, half is books, the other half is social. If you can't cut the mustard on both levels, then you need to find something else.
As a CNA, we are next to the bottom of the barrel. Yet, we are the most important element in the healthcare field. If anything, maybe it will motivate you to go further with your career later and to not become complaceint being a CNA. This way, when you become the RN, you will remember what it was like being a CNA and you will take a good CNA under your wings.
I believe that you can tell a Nurse by how they treat those that work with them and if they themselves worked up the food chain, verses just jumping into it as an RN. Usually those that are mavricks, will be kind. Those that didn't, will be mean and they will not understand a CNA's job.
Just think of it this way, they want to discourage you too if your good. Because they might feel threatend that you are making them look bad and you could later take their job.
But if your a slacking and just there for a paycheck CNA - and we have those out there, then I hate to say it.. but they have earned the right to be treated horribly.
My 2 cents.