I need some advice on what will happen to me. I am a cna and recently I was involved with an incident that resulted in the resident falling from the stand up lift and breaking her hip. I was helping an aide transfer a resident from the chair to the bed and when the resident was standing up in the lift, I asked the aide if it was ok for me to go on break and she said yes. I left before the resident was transferred in bed and she was still standing. When I came back from break she told me the resident fell from the lift when I wasn't there.
The facility sent the information to the attorney general and department of health for nys.
I was suspended from work and I understand I am in big trouble but does anyone know the process or what will happen? Will I lose my certification and can I continue nursing school?
I know now I shouldnt have left and I really regret it and I'm so upset that the patient fell I feel so bad. But I don't know what to do and I can't stop thinking about this. Does anyone have any advice or information on what will happen?
Sit to stand lifts do not "require" two people to operate, and while I've heard stories of people who've worked at facilities where internal policies recommend two people to operate it's not widespread enough of a belief (myth) to establish a standard of care. In reality, there is no standard of care that dictates two people are required for the use of any type of lift, and those who claim this is the standard of care clearly lack a basic understanding of what a "standard of care" is.
Sit to stand lifts do not "require" two people to operate, and while I've heard stories of people who've worked at facilities where internal policies recommend two people to operate it's not widespread enough of a belief (myth) to establish a standard of care. In reality, there is no standard of care that dictates two people are required for the use of any type of lift, and those who claim this is the standard of care clearly lack a basic understanding of what a "standard of care" is.
I don't lack a basic understanding of anything is that's been the "standard of care" at literally every facility I've been at. You can keep your condescending, passive rude comments to yourself. No way you can dictate what someone else knows from experience.
Again, you're point is moot in this scenario because if the CNA requested help and OP was suspended then obviously it was the "standard of care" in this facility too and/or the staff nurses failed to upgrade this patient to a hoyer because obviously the patient wasn't a good candidate for the stand lift.
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Feds, private sector, and public sector require 2 people. I don't need youtube videos, I've been a CNA in the past and have been an RN almost 15 years. I know what I'm talking about.
And why are you writing a dissertation on how many people a lift requires? It doesn't change the point that OP didn't do what was required and a patient was hurt. Y'all killing me with these whataboutisms and irrelevant arguments. You never addressed the bottom line, neglect and an injured patient. Everything else is scapegoating. She was wrong and y'all will deal!
I wrote my post about how many people it takes to use a lift because you obviously DON'T know that a lift is designed to be safely used by one person.
I won't even go into the fact that you don't understand the difference between Public Sector and Private Sector.
You know nothing! What I know and have experienced for over 20 years of healthcare is not up for debate. You wrote an entire dissertation on lifts but didn't address the topic: OP failed to satisfy her duties and a patient was hurt. End of story. Everything else you typed is irrelevant.
I think you're confused. There's been nothing to indicate that two people were required to be there when the lift was used, and it's been readily established that two people are NOT always required for every single type of lift in the world. Therefore, it has not been established that the OP didn't do her job.
I don't lack a basic understanding of anything is that's been the "standard of care" at literally every facility I've been at. You can keep your condescending, passive rude comments to yourself. No way you can dictate what someone else knows from experience.
Again, you're point is moot in this scenario because if the CNA requested help and OP was suspended then obviously it was the "standard of care" in this facility too and/or the staff nurses failed to upgrade this patient to a hoyer because obviously the patient wasn't a good candidate for the stand lift.
I don't lack a basic understanding of anything is that's been the "standard of care" at literally every facility I've been at. You can keep your condescending, passive rude comments to yourself.
You don't get to dictate who can post or the content of their comments.
His post wasn't at all condescending, it just disagrees with yours.
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Harsh lesson learned. I am sorry this happened, for both that poor resident and you. We have a 2 person rule for lifts. Meaning: NO ONE is allowed to Hoyer or transfer a patient alone without at least one other staff member present and helping or at least spotting to ensure it's going ok. This is exactly why.
I am sure you learned your lesson. I do hope the resident recovers as this is very serious.
I can't say what will happen to you but there is a policy in your institution like ours, you could be in trouble. It's a mistake you won't ever make again, that I am sure of. So sorry.
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Oh and Hoyers are not meant to replace supervision and safety measures. In one lift, the sling slipped and the patient began to fall backward, head-first. The person operating the lift did not see it til I shouted to stop. It's very hard to see all angles in lifting and bad things can happen. Fortunately, we were able to lower the patient back down and fix the sling so no fall occurred. Whether it's a rule or not where you work, it's foolish to Hoyer a patient by yourself. IF something happens, you can't usually handle it by yourself. And if it were my loved one, I would be very upset this happened, when it was clearly preventable.
You don't get to dictate who can post or the content of their comments.
His post wasn't at all also condescending, it just disagrees with yours.
Telling someone they don't have a basic understanding of anything is condescending. So now you're going to dictate to me how I interpret something? I can dictate how people address ME including you. Anything else you want to be fake outraged about?
Harsh lesson learned. I am sorry this happened, for both that poor resident and you. We have a 2 person rule for lifts. Meaning: NO ONE is allowed to Hoyer or transfer a patient alone without at least one other staff member present and helping or at least spotting to ensure it's going ok. This is exactly why.
I am sure you learned your lesson. I do hope the resident recovers as this is very serious.
I can't say what will happen to you but there is a policy in your institution like ours, you could be in trouble. It's a mistake you won't ever make again, that I am sure of. So sorry.
This! But apparently I'm too stupid to know the basics and standards and my life experiences be damned. LMAO!
I wrote my post about how many people it takes to use a lift because you obviously DON'T know that a lift is designed to be safely used by one person.
I won't even go into the fact that you don't understand the difference between Public Sector and Private Sector.
I think you're confused. There's been nothing to indicate that two people were required to be there when the lift was used, and it's been readily established that two people are NOT always required for every single type of lift in the world. Therefore, it has not been established that the OP didn't do her job.
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So here you are again with the condescending nonsense but according to someone else you're Mary Magdalene.
I said I wasn't addressing this again, so I'm not.
Now that you feel superior with that wall of BS, do you care to address the fact OP failed and a patient is now hurt or nah?
Telling someone they don't have a basic understanding of anything is condescending. So now you're going to dictate to me how I interpret something? I can dictate how people address ME including you. Anything else you want to be fake outraged about?
Poor Girl/guy (s/he made a mistake, but being charged with a felony (i think that would be more along the lines of 'intentional' neglect). S/he's probably young and was tired and NEEDED a break.
S/he was told 'everything is ok' take a break. *its not like she pushed the patient to the floor.
Tough job being a CNA !
The chance of the OP being charged with a felony for going on a break rather than staying to assist someone else who told her he didn't need her help is essentially nil.
Her behavior was highly questionable, but this kid is not going to jail.
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Sit to stand lifts do not "require" two people to operate, and while I've heard stories of people who've worked at facilities where internal policies recommend two people to operate it's not widespread enough of a belief (myth) to establish a standard of care. In reality, there is no standard of care that dictates two people are required for the use of any type of lift, and those who claim this is the standard of care clearly lack a basic understanding of what a "standard of care" is.