CLINICALLY based DNP

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Specializes in Cardiac, Home Health, Primary Care.

Man oh man I know this can start a pages long thread but I can't find the old thread I'm looking for!

I know the DNP is a clinically based terminal degree for nursing. I get that. But I want to learn more about patho, pharm, etc. rather than applying research to practice (which is valuable don't get me wrong!). In an old thread (again one I can't find) someone linked to a DNP that seemed more like what I'd enjoy.

Any thoughts? Again NOT trying to drudge up the old debate. Just interested in possible schools that focus more on the science-y aspect of NP work!

IF I go back in a couple of years it would be nice to wind up with a terminal degree rather than post masters cert.

FINAL REMINDER: I am NOT trying to get into the debate lol. Just looking for leads cause I've lost the one I had!

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Specializes in Outpatient Psychiatry.

Oh gee. Look out. I posed the same question and was nearly driven off the forum.

I think the conclusion is that there isn't one. A few of us wanted the same. The masses want a doctorate in leadership translation although I can't begin to understand why.

I think Tufts has one with some neuro.

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Specializes in ICU, LTACH, Internal Medicine.

There are clinical fellowships for NPs, and from what I'd heard they come pretty much close to the specialty's medical residency.

BTW, nobody prohibited reading the very same books. Slightly used editions can be found on Ebay for only a few bucks, and, providing you start from the baseline (patho, pharm, biochem, physiology), they are not that difficult to understand and hard packed with science. I just finished the pharm for PharmDs, and it was quite fascinating, only one trouble is that now it looks like I know more than our pharmacy guys, and I am getting tired of keeping my mouth shut tight permanently in their presence.

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Specializes in Cardiac, Home Health, Primary Care.
There are clinical fellowships for NPs, and from what I'd heard they come pretty much close to the specialty's medical residency.

BTW, nobody prohibited reading the very same books. Slightly used editions can be found on Ebay for only a few bucks, and, providing you start from the baseline (patho, pharm, biochem, physiology), they are not that difficult to understand and hard packed with science. I just finished the pharm for PharmDs, and it was quite fascinating, only one trouble is that now it looks like I know more than our pharmacy guys, and I am getting tired of keeping my mouth shut tight permanently in their presence.

I have several books I am getting around to and am even going back to some basics and watching some awesome A&P lectures on youtube! After knowing what I know it's easier to pick up on the smaller details I DIDN'T remember the first time around.

I'm all about self learning but sometimes it's just nice to have a more structured learning environment. There's even some human biology degrees that I'd love but I'm sure they aren't online....

I'm just a science nerd but love nursing for the holistic view + science.

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Specializes in Cardiac, Home Health, Primary Care.
Oh gee. Look out. I posed the same question and was nearly driven off the forum.

I think the conclusion is that there isn't one. A few of us wanted the same. The masses want a doctorate in leadership translation although I can't begin to understand why.

I think Tufts has one with some neuro.

I think I remember that post actually....I don't think it was your post, though, that had the program I am looking for! I will look into Tufts though. I don't mind a research or theory class but when most of the classes have one of those two words in them that's not my thing.

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Specializes in Outpatient Psychiatry.
I have several books I am getting around to and am even going back to some basics and watching some awesome A&P lectures on youtube! After knowing what I know it's easier to pick up on the smaller details I DIDN'T remember the first time around.

I'm all about self learning but sometimes it's just nice to have a more structured learning environment. There's even some human biology degrees that I'd love but I'm sure they aren't online....

I'm just a science nerd but love nursing for the holistic view + science.

Same here for the science. I thought nursing education included more of it. As one suggested, I read a lot including appropriate texts. Some structure and application helps facilitate, however. As for holistic nursing, I'll pass. It has it's place. I'm just not the guy to push it.

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Specializes in Vascular Neurology and Neurocritical Care.

Hello,

I recommend the fellowships. I am in one for neurosurgery. There are clinical based DNP programs that meet your criteria. Check out USA (Univ if South Alabama). Very reputable and excellent program. You may also find Vanderbilt's combined DNP/critical care fellowship program of great interest. Please feel free to PM me if you want to hear more about the fellowships that are out there, as I can give you personal info regarding then with regard to experience, etc.

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Specializes in Vascular Neurology and Neurocritical Care.

Btw I'm totally with you regarding frustrations with the DNP. I'm doing my DNP separate from the fellowship so it's a bit of torture with some of the classes. I just posted about that the other day, but I digress...

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Specializes in Cardiac, Home Health, Primary Care.

I know I'm not the only one! I will stick with the books I have now and some cool YouTube videos until I find what I want.

I still have hope that I'll be Dr. anh06005 one day with a program I'll love.

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I am with the OP. The reason I haven't started a DNP yet is that I am want one that will make me a better clinician. I want super-advanced patho, pharm, diagnostic reasoning, etc. I want to come out the other end a smarter, better practitioner. And since I have practiced for a few years now, I really have a good sense of what I want out of a program. I have a very good friend (we are fellow nerds LOL) who feels the same way. So you're not alone, OP.

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Specializes in Cardiac, Home Health, Primary Care.
I am with the OP. The reason I haven't started a DNP yet is that I am want one that will make me a better clinician. I want super-advanced patho, pharm, diagnostic reasoning, etc. I want to come out the other end a smarter, better practitioner. And since I have practiced for a few years now, I really have a good sense of what I want out of a program. I have a very good friend (we are fellow nerds LOL) who feels the same way. So you're not alone, OP.

After reading this site long enough I know I'm not alone! Those fellowships mentioned above look awesome so I'll have to look more into those and see if any are fairly in my area.

For now I'm still studying random things I never fully understood and order the occasional textbook to read over.

If the DNP I want doesn't come along in a few years may go back for ACNP or forensic nursing.

If any of y'all come across what we are looking for make sure to share ;)

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You could always pop into medical school classes, it's my understanding that a public university cannot tell you to leave if you are there for education, and you don't have to pay if you aren't looking for a degree--however you won't necessarily have access to everything you need and may or may not get some flak for being on medical student's "turf" if you tell them who you are. It would be awfully time consuming though haha. Good bye full time job, hello 4 hours of lecture 5 days a week!

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