Clinical Capstone failure?

allnurses Guide · May 9, 2012

Edited below, double post.

JustBeachyNurse, LPN · May 9, 2012

Did this occur recently? To clarify, I was looking at your previous posts and you posted that your preceptor had you "kicked" out last year and you had HR (as you were employed at the same facility where you were precepting) involved but the school did not 'rule' in your favor. If this is the same incident, I'm guessing that afte a year your options at be limited. Pregnancy is generally considered a protected class, in work and education though there are specific notification requirements to receive accommodations for even a temporary disability. If you truly feel that you were discriminated against then you need to speak with someone authorized to practice law in your state (usually administrative law). I'm not surprised that the BoN did not get involved. Either way no one here can give you legal advice You really need to read the policies of your school and nursing program to know what else, if anything, can be done to 'get around' your road block. Fair is relative. If the school agreed that you did not pass your capstone, then you need to repeat as dictated by your school's policies & procedures if you want to graduate and be eligible for licensure as an RN. Since you already have your LPN license you can consider looking to alternative programs that offer a bridge from LPN - RN.

allnurses Guide · May 9, 2012

That is an awful big surprise at the end of the semester.

Did you have a midterm evaluation? My program and most I know of use midterm evals so this doesn't happen. If you are at risk for failing you know it by midterm and it's documented. The only way you can fail after a positive midterm eval is bad professional character (breaking rules, not showing up, or jeopardizing pt safety).

Nolli · May 9, 2012

I know we're not at the point where we turn in paperwork 100% of the time for our clinical, but is there any chance you kept a copy of any evals or the work that you've done? If so that could be your ace in the hole. I can't think of anything else.

patientlywaiting · May 9, 2012

At our school there is no eval for midterm but I had not been in trouble during clinicals. I have never been in trouble in nursing school. The reason I say it is discrimination is because the hospital stated that they would be more than happy to have me finish my capstone. My teacher flat out said that she had a problem with the way I look (I am tattoo'd and pierced but obviouly covered during school) and that she thought I didn't do well during class because I was pregnant. I had a B in the class so I am not sure what her version of doing well is. The teachers that had me failed had never once seen me during a clinical session. All of the students also had the opportunity to redo their work except for me. After 3 months of asking for the papers I needed to redo I got an email stating that I was irritating to her. Yes I have all of this saved. I tried to contact the dean at our school and he refused to respond. They refused to give me copies of anything that was said or done and just decided I needed to redo the full year. I got my LPN because I have no choice but there are no jobs in this state as they do not hire them in the acute care setting and are trying to phase out LPN's alltogether.

HR at the place I work (where I did my capstone) said they could do nothing unless the school did, well the school said they tried to get me into another preceptorship (which I do not believe) and was told there wasn't a spot. They have allowed other students to wait until the next preceptorship to finish and allowed another student to re-enter their block 4 after failing. I was told I was no longer allowed to finish at that school period.

The preceptor lied about things I "had done" but it was my word against his and they took his. I don't know why but he just really disliked me. I tried to stay out of his way and just be a fly on the wall to get through. He yelled at me in front of many employees and constantly threw me at other nurses to take. He tried to say I was starting IV's without him present when in actuallity he tried to get me to do so and I refused. I was following the rules which is what is so frustrating.

There is no LPN-RN bridge in Arizona just 1 LPN-BSN at a school that is completely unaffordable for me. I have to take a $50 test and get a certain score in order to get back into block 3 of the RN program and then redo those 2 semesters. I just am having a hard time with this because I passed everything, no one wants to redo nursing school. If it was just one semester no big deal but 2...not fair.

Esme12, ASN, BSN, RN · May 9, 2012

There is no protection from discrimination for the way you look. Now you had meningitis and pregnant in the last year? Is this the same preceptor that you had problems with before? I am confused. When you are precepting you are not protected by the hospitals HR whether or not you are employed there. YOU are the schools responsibility.

I am sorry you are going through this......I hope it all turns out OK.

allnurses Guide · May 10, 2012

It seems like there is something missing form the story?

You work at this hospital and did your capstone there? In what capacity?

nurseprnRN, BSN, RN · May 11, 2012

i can't tell how old you are, but the pregnancy, multiple piercings (which had better not be visible in the hospital), and tats lead me to guess younger rather than older. (i know this isn't 100% reliable...i am pretty sure i'm old enough to be your mother and have six earrings and two big tats myself, but they are not visible at work. and i digress). in that case, in ten years the extra two semesters won't amount to a hill of beans. do them, be done with it, and move on with your life.

put this experience behind you. i cannot emphasize that enough...stop posting about it, stop telling people how you got the shaft for no discernible reason, stop trying to get it reversed. that time is past. life is not fair sometimes. you know the old joke where job looks up at the sky in misery and cries out, "lord, why me?" and the lord looks down and him, shrugs, and says, "why not you?" that's where you are right now. maybe in ten years when you are a staff nurse and precepting a kid that everyone thinks is a loss, you will be able to see around the outer appearance and attitude and see...yourself. start down that path now.

Shailat · Mar 18, 2018

Is it possible to still pass the class if the midterm grade isn't good but the final evaluation is passing?

OneWhisper · Mar 20, 2018

Is it possible to still pass the class if the midterm grade isn't good but the final evaluation is passing?

It might help if you made your own post. You will probably get more responses that way.

As for your question, it would depend on your classes grading scales. It depends on what your grade was at midterm, and what your grade is at final. It depends what grades you got for each assignment, and what each assignment is worth.

Your question is a little confusing because you say midterm grade and then final evaluation. So, are you talking about having a bad midterm evaluation for clinicals but then getting a good final evaluation? Or are you saying that you got a bad midterm evaluation at clinical and a passing final evaluation?

If you are saying that you got a bad midterm evaluation for clinicals, but want to know if you get a good final evaluation whether or not you will pass - that is up to your instructor. At the school I graduated from, it didn't matter really what your midterm eval was. The midterm eval was just a way to let you know how you were doing, and what you needed to improve on. For the final evaluation, they looked to make sure that you had made growth throughout the semester. So, for the midterm evaluation, whatever they spoke to you about saying that was not good, did you work on those things and improve? If you did so to a safe and appropriate level, then you most likely will pass. But again, no one can say yes or no for sure, because it is at the discretion of your instructor and based on the schools guidelines for clinical.

If you are saying you got a bad midterm evaluation and a passing final evaluation, then I would think the final evaluation of passing would mean you passed.

SirJohnny · Dec 25, 2019

... any follow-up to this story. I know it happened in 2012, but was curious as to what eventually transpired.