Changing the Conversation about COVID to Get More People Vaccinated

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by LeChele Mack LeChele Mack, BSN, RN (New)

Specializes in Corrections, Psychiatry. Has 5 years experience.

This article talks about the type of messaging that is most effective at changing minds about vaccination and how we can provide that messaging through discussion about long COVID-19.

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Sciencedude1, BSN, RN

Specializes in Critical Thinking-Critical Care. Has 1 years experience. 211 Posts

An interesting video from a Ph.D in pathophysiology discussing why vaccine mandates are not an effective public health tool.

 

Sciencedude1, BSN, RN

Specializes in Critical Thinking-Critical Care. Has 1 years experience. 211 Posts

Another interesting video by medical doctor, Dr.Bean were he discusses his review of spike proteins entering the cells nucleus and inhibiting DNA repair. Could spike proteins potentially lead to an increase in cancer rates? Something to consider. 

 

 

MunoRN, RN

Specializes in Critical Care. Has 10 years experience. 8,058 Posts

7 minutes ago, Sciencedude1 said:

So why should anyone be forced to take the risk of myocarditis again if they have already been infected with covid19 and can prove immunity with an antibody titer? Especially considering the actual infection with covid19 provides a more robust and longer acting immunity. 

Because infection does not provide "a more robust and longer acting immunity"

https://www.CDC.gov/media/releases/2021/s0806-vaccination-protection.html

toomuchbaloney

toomuchbaloney

Specializes in NICU, PICU, Transport, L&D, Hospice. Has 43 years experience. 9,488 Posts

1 hour ago, Sciencedude1 said:

How is the science "twisted" and the data analysis "crazy"? Your opinion bears no weight in the scientific community unless you have a data set proving the contrary. This "crazy and twisted science" is coming from the international community not just American right ring "antivaxers". 

You linked to an opinion.  You have no evidence which should delay vaccination.  You have propaganda, fears and fabrications. 

PMFB-RN, RN

Specializes in burn ICU, SICU, ER, Trauma Rapid Response. Has 16 years experience. 5,342 Posts

2 hours ago, Sciencedude1 said:

My "kind"? You mean people who disagree with you? So you are not willing to talk to anyone who has a different opinion 

Everyone is entitled to their own opinions. But not their own facts.

Your kind = dishonest people of low moral character who deliberately spread disinformation. 

    You haven't even disagreed with ME yet

Sciencedude1, BSN, RN

Specializes in Critical Thinking-Critical Care. Has 1 years experience. 211 Posts

10 minutes ago, PMFB-RN said:

Everyone is entitled to their own opinions. But not their own facts.

Your kind = dishonest people of low moral character who deliberately spread disinformation. 

    You haven't even disagreed with ME yet

You might have a lot of experience in nursing but you have very little experience debating. Ad hominem attacks speak more about your ability to debate then my moral fiber. 

PMFB-RN, RN

Specializes in burn ICU, SICU, ER, Trauma Rapid Response. Has 16 years experience. 5,342 Posts

8 minutes ago, Sciencedude1 said:

You might have a lot of experience in nursing but you have very little experience debating. Ad hominem attacks speak more about your ability to debate then my moral fiber. 

Well the good news that you and I are not engaged in a debate and never have been.

    You have absolutely nothing to base your opinion of my debating experience. 

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Sciencedude1, BSN, RN

Specializes in Critical Thinking-Critical Care. Has 1 years experience. 211 Posts

56 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

You linked to an opinion.  You have no evidence which should delay vaccination.  You have propaganda, fears and fabrications. 

LOL an opinion? The article has references to peer reviewed publications with imperical data discussing incident rates of myocarditis and pericarditis. Hardly an opinion. 

33 minutes ago, PMFB-RN said:

Well the good news that you and I are no engaged in a debate and never have been.

    You have absolutely nothing to base your opinion of my debating experience. 

God I feel sorry for the patients you deal with. God forbid any of your patients disagree with your point of view, or are not vaccinated.

kdkout

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Has 27 years experience. 155 Posts

"Sciencedude1"

You have said, last month: I am about to finish my nursing education at a public university in Texas.

Just because you enjoy debating/arguing, which you clearly do, does not mean you fully understand science and are "critically thinking." Right now you have a lot of theories and are spreading misinformation, whether you admit to it or not.  

It's going to be a rough road ahead; I hope you work in critical care on a covid unit taking care of those unvaccinated in TX in order to see the repercussions of your theories firsthand.   

It has been proven it does not enter the nucleus.  And, as far as "something to consider," MRNA technology is being used to help cure cancer, not cause it, and has been for awhile now.

You are embarrassing yourself, especially with that avatar. 

 

Sciencedude1, BSN, RN

Specializes in Critical Thinking-Critical Care. Has 1 years experience. 211 Posts

17 minutes ago, kdkout said:

"Sciencedude1"

You have said, last month: I am about to finish my nursing education at a public university in Texas.

Just because you enjoy debating/arguing, which you clearly do, does not mean you fully understand science and are "critically thinking." Right now you have a lot of theories and are spreading misinformation, whether you admit to it or not.  

It's going to be a rough road ahead; I hope you work in critical care on a covid unit taking care of those unvaccinated in TX in order to see the repercussions of your theories firsthand.   

It has been proven it does not enter the nucleus.  And, as far as "something to consider," MRNA technology is being used to help cure cancer, not cause it, and has been for awhile now.

You are embarrassing yourself, especially with that avatar. 

 

What does not enter the nucleus? So you have a better understanding of molecular biology than the doctor you are referencing. I never said MRNA enters the nucleus. Any 9th grade biology student knows that MRNA leaves the nucleus after the process of transcription. What the doctor was saying was that spike proteins enter the nucleus which inhibit DNA repair in vitro studies. The scientist in the publication state that future vaccines should not use entire spike proteins but components instead.  I am not embarrassed about me being a new nurse or my ability to think critically. I was a biologist prior to being a nurse and have a good grasp on basic science. I have built students up and helped them obtain biology college credit while learning how to analyze data. The same can not be said about some of the nurses on this forum where everyone is expected to fall in line. I am not concerned about my future career and have already started working with covid19 patients all through out my clinical rotations and internship. While some nurses here were getting paid to work with covid19 patients I was doing it for free. I am well aware of the complications associated with covid19 patients such as ARDS, pulmonary fibrosis, CVA's, MI's, disseminated intravascular coagulation.  So please spare me the lecture. 

PMFB-RN, RN

Specializes in burn ICU, SICU, ER, Trauma Rapid Response. Has 16 years experience. 5,342 Posts

32 minutes ago, Sciencedude1 said:

You might have a lot of experience in nursing but you have very little experience debating. Ad hominem attacks speak more about your ability to debate then my moral fiber. 

Suggest you go to the COVID forum and read my post titled "I'm Done" so you may understand that I've progressed beyond debating your kind, and why.

Sciencedude1, BSN, RN

Specializes in Critical Thinking-Critical Care. Has 1 years experience. 211 Posts

Just now, PMFB-RN said:

Suggest you go to the COVID forum and read my post titled "I'm Done" so you may understand that I've progressed beyond debating your kind, and why.

OK will do.