Changes to shortage occupation list in the UK

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Specializes in Medical and general practice now LTC.

From March 08 there is a change to the list of acceptable qualifications for nurses in the shortage list. Just for information

Nurses:

Not all nursing occupations are being removed from the list. The details below set out those we are removing and those that remain on the list.

The following nursing occupations are being removed from the list:

midwives; and

audiology;

sleep or respiratory physiology;

neurophysiology;

cardiac physiology;

clinical radiology; and

pathology.

However, the list of shortage occupations still includes registered nurses employed at bands 7 and 8 or their independent sector equivalents and registered nurses employed in the following specialties:

operating theatre nurse; and

critical care nurse (nurses working in wards with a Level 2 or Level 3 classification).

http://www.bia.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitecontent/newsarticles/shortageoccupationchange

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silverdragon102

What are level 2 and 3 level nurses in critical care areas.

Sue

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silverdragon102

What are level 2 and 3 level nurses in critical care areas.

Sue

http://www.guysandstthomas.nhs.uk/services/acutepatient/perioperative/criticalcare/criticalcare.aspx

Level 2 = HDU - single organ support - no vent 1:2 (ha!)

Level 3 = ICU - usual ICU stuff - vent, multi-organ support 1:1 (ha!)

Cheers

OG

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I can't believe they're removing midwives when all the news has recently been full of is how bad things are in midwifery, how short of midwives we are etc etc!

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I can't believe they're removing midwives when all the news has recently been full of is how bad things are in midwifery, how short of midwives we are etc etc!

This is totally off topic but I just had to respond to this.

Yes, maternity units are desperately short of midwives however the shortage isnt due to their being an actual shortage of available staff in the UK but because of Trusts having no money to employ people. Im a student midwife about to qualify and all of my cohort of 26 along with students qualifying up and down the country and facing qualification with no chance of a post in midwifery.

At the last survey around 75% of UK midwives are qualifying and either working in alternative careers or leaving the country as that is the only hope of getting a midwifery job. You'll be surprised how many qualified midwives are sitting behind desks or working at supermarket checkouts whilst the maternity units struggle to offer even basic care and whilst the government spout, when it boils down to it, complete rubbish about the midwifery staff shortage.

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No not really off topic! Just sad that this hasn't even been highighted in the nursing press, let alone the general press!!

I wish I was surprised, but I'm not!

Well I'm glad that I've done with having kids! I have to say I had the best midwives ever for all my births, for which I'm eternally grateful.

Meanwhile the politicians are trying to give themselves what amounts to a 60+% payrise while the rest of us rot!! Can't think why I want to emigrate!!!!!!:angryfire:angryfire:angryfire

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This is totally off topic but I just had to respond to this.

Yes, maternity units are desperately short of midwives however the shortage isnt due to their being an actual shortage of available staff in the UK but because of Trusts having no money to employ people. Im a student midwife about to qualify and all of my cohort of 26 along with students qualifying up and down the country and facing qualification with no chance of a post in midwifery.

At the last survey around 75% of UK midwives are qualifying and either working in alternative careers or leaving the country as that is the only hope of getting a midwifery job. You'll be surprised how many qualified midwives are sitting behind desks or working at supermarket checkouts whilst the maternity units struggle to offer even basic care and whilst the government spout, when it boils down to it, complete rubbish about the midwifery staff shortage.

http://www.expressandstar.com/2008/06/02/trust-bid-hospital-to-axe-400-jobs/

This states that job losses will include midwives, but not known how many. It obviously has implications for recruitment of nurses and midwives as does the headline from the following day:

http://www.expressandstar.com/2008/06/03/hospital-beds-to-be-scrapped/

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Specializes in med/surg.

You do get the odd bit about potential job cuts in the odd hospital filtering through to the nursing press but my comment that had lisa replyig had been that the national press (& for that matter the BBC) has been running headlines about an acute shortage of midwives!

Turnes out, if lisa is correct - which I'm sure she is - that there are the midwives, just not the trusts willing to employ them. I think that's disgraceful, especially in an NHS now reported to be 1.5 billion (UK billion too) in the black!!!

I was cross that these facts hadn't appeared in my nursing mag at all. I do read it pretty well too.

Maybe lisa & her cohort should write a letter to the Nursing Standard & Times to inform everyone of their situation!?

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I was wondering about the Band 7 and band 8 nurse positions that are still on the list. I tried looking it up online, but I'm still not sure what it is. Are those positions that you would have to apply for like management positions, or do they have specific qualifications needed? Like are those positions that would require a masters degree?

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Specializes in Medical and general practice now LTC.

Band 7-8 are usually specialist nurses/ Sisters/charge nurses, NP's but does vary from Trust to Trust depending on how they have graded the job. This will give you a rough idea on job type. Still would be hard to gain emloyment if from outside the EU

http://www.jobs.nhs.uk/cgi-bin/vacdetails.cgi?selection=912039269

http://www.jobs.nhs.uk/cgi-bin/vacdetails.cgi?selection=912039084

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I was wondering about the Band 7 and band 8 nurse positions that are still on the list. I tried looking it up online, but I'm still not sure what it is. Are those positions that you would have to apply for like management positions, or do they have specific qualifications needed? Like are those positions that would require a masters degree?

TO be honest and as someone who recruits nurses you will only likely to be considered if the post is highly specialised and there is no-one in the UK / EU applys who can do it

I honestly cannot think of one senior post in my area that I would not be able to fill from local nurses. The band 7 and 8 positions come up so rarely that there is usually a great deal of local talent who are jumping at the opportunity.

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