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First of all, do somebody knows if CGFNS cert. has expiration?I passed it 10 years ago.Will they still honor it?Bec. during my time it is a lifetime certificate.And it includes an english section bec. that time there's no Toefl yet.But now they require you to pass first an english proficiency or take a separate english proficiency exam for the Cgfns cert.I'm kinda sad to know that i will just loose the cert. i really worked hard and payed a lot of money for.I also passed my toefl 5 years ago and now i cannot use it bec. it is already expired.My gosh i'm really disappointed with all those expiring cert.

EricJRN, MSN, RN

Specializes in NICU. Has 15 years experience.

I moved your post to the International Forum for more responses. Good luck!

Pls. contact CGFNS directly re: your case to be sure.

CGFNS International

Also, w/c state do you plan to apply for eligibility?

I already searched the CGFNS website and tried to contact them as well through email but they answered me with an automated reply.Though i was still in their record bec. i checked my status.But my question still remain unanswered.Do i have to take toefl again when in fact they included english proficeiency in our exam way back which i guess is not included now in their exam bec. they let you take the toefl separately.

I am appying in Vermont now which does'nt require CGFNS but i want to use it for additional verification of my credentials if in case some agencies ask for it

batasMTR_RN

Specializes in Critical Care Nursing.

only cgfns can answer your querries.. please call them because email is unreliable and you need answers which can be best explained verbally....

Better call them directly instead of e-mail. They receive hundreds of e-mails on a daily basis from all over the world and they have indicated in their website that they need 15 days or so to respond.

Contact VT as well if they will accept your 10 yr old CGFNS Certificate in lieu of a transcript of records to be sent directly from your nursing school.

http://vtprofessionals.org/opr1/nurses/forms/foreignnurseapp.pdf

The way I see it, the only way you can still take advantage of the CGFNS certificate is if VT BON will accept that in lieu of their own transcript evaluation.

And as you know already, VT has no english-language prof. exam req't as well to sit for the NCLEX so it's either they will accept your CGFNS cert. in lieu of their TOR evaluation or not. If they do then no need for you to instruct your old school to send VT your transcripts. Just your application and fees.

That's it, in my opinion.

augigi, CNS

Specializes in Critical Care, Cardiothoracics, VADs. Has 10 years experience.

FYI, I have emailed CGFNS at least 10 times and never got a response.. ever. I agree, contact Vermont first to ask if they'll even accept the CGNFS (they do answer emails quickly in my experience)

augigi, CNS

Specializes in Critical Care, Cardiothoracics, VADs. Has 10 years experience.

Actually I checked the website FAQs at VT BON:

QUESTION: If I have taken and passed CGFNS, do I need to submit a transcript from my school of nursing regarding my education?

ANSWER: No. If you have taken and passed CGFNS in the last 5 years, you do not need to submit a transcript from your school of nursing.

I already searched the CGFNS website and tried to contact them as well through email but they answered me with an automated reply.Though i was still in their record bec. i checked my status.But my question still remain unanswered.Do i have to take toefl again when in fact they included english proficeiency in our exam way back which i guess is not included now in their exam bec. they let you take the toefl separately.

They already issued you a CGFNS Cert. and their policy then was it is valid for lifetime. Don't see why you have to re-take the TOEFL again.

The better question is if they will be honoring that TOEFL score if you will be applying for the VisaScreen Certification but if you are a US citizen already by virtue of marrying an America you do not need the VisaScreen certification as well.

English exams, when required, are not honored for their lifetime. For those that go thru the VSC process, and need to renew it every five years, that also requires that the English exams be done again.

TOEFL exam that was done with CGFNS is not the same as the exams that are required for the VSC. That was only the basic English exam, and none of the other parts such as the writing and speaking section. Those are now required for the VSC...........

The TOEIC exam also is included in approved courses accepted for the CGFNS Certificate, but it is not accepted on its own for the VSC as it is missing too much.

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The final issue is up to the employing facility in the long run, they are the ones that will determine if English standards are up to what they want, and I have seen quite a few turned down stirctly based on communication skills and that is all over the country, including CA where there is a very large immigrant population.

Thanks guys for all the information and for taking time to answer my questions.I'm really lucky that i found this website.It's really hard when you're living abroad and you have nobody to talk to.

Your welcome. Is VT really where you want to work because I have this feeling that it is really NY that you wanted to go and NY requires the Credential Verification Service (CVS) from CGFNS no matter what if you are foreign-educated. No way around that; even if you get licensed in VT.

Just wanted you to know.

here I go again, I have no idea.

Is it better to take the cgfns first?

and does it come with the toefl exam too?

will it require me to choose again a specific state?

here I go again, I have no idea.

Is it better to take the cgfns first?

and does it come with the toefl exam too?

will it require me to choose again a specific state?

No. Once you pick a State, rule of thumb is to just follow that State's requirements. Some require CGFNS Certification , some do not.

If the State you chose to apply for 'Initial Licensure' doesn't require one (i.e NM, VT, CA) no need to do it. Period.

That's why we keep saying to pick a State first and then go on from there.

Do not 'go with the flow' of the majority of Phil. new grads and new Board passers that they apply for CGFNS Certification right away w/o even thinking w/c State they want to work. The CGFNS Certification is not a 'Magic Bullet'.

Had so many friends that did these even though we already said that why take it when the State they were considering at that time doesn't even need it. Some still did. Some passed, some did not but it doesn't matter anyway since the States they were considering doesn't even require it and they will have to undergo the requirements of that State they want. Lesson is - don't do anything that is not required or you will just be wasting time, money, and effort. They studied for the exam for nothing.

NY is an exemption because it's CVS req't should be completed no matter what and regardless if one is already licensed in another State already.

CA, is another one when it is much better to just apply "Licensure of Endorsement" to them than applying directly and the current choice of State BON of most foreign RNs of where to apply for 'Initial Licensure' is NM or VT because: 1) they do not require any CGFNS service (they do their own transcript evaluation) to be made eligible to sit for NCLEX, 2) relatively faster processing time than CA BRN (2-3 mos. for NM if done correctly and 3-4 mos. for VT)

The only two diff. bet NM and VT is that NM is only slightly faster and they require f.print (background check) while VT does not.

If you ask me the better question is how long would they give proof of passing NCLEX since you need the hard copy for you to submit to your lawyers and employers to be able for you to be petitioned. You may ask this to the past applicants in NM and VT on the diff. threads here.

thanks again...

yes, many nurses I know is either contemplating or already took the test. And when I ask why they did it, they would answer that don't really know but it MUST be taken. BUT new jersey requires CG right?

okay, the question how long would they give proof of passing NCLEX will now be my focus.

thanks again...

yes, many nurses I know is either contemplating or already took the test. And when I ask why they did it, they would answer that don't really know but it MUST be taken. BUT new jersey requires CG right?

okay, the question how long would they give proof of passing NCLEX will now be my focus.

NJ requires CGFNS Credential Evaluation Service (CES) only and not the CGFNS Certification (CGFNS Exam + Transcript evaluation + English Exam Proficiency Exam and License Validation if licensed in the Phil.)

Silverdragon102, BSN

Specializes in Medical and general practice now LTC. Has 33 years experience.

each state takes a different amount of time to say whether you passed and again depending on state will depend if they will give you a hard license or not. If the state requires a SSN before they will give you your license they will issue you with a letter stating you meet requirements. You can not apply for a SSN until you are in the US and can prove that you are there legally. Once you know you have passed NCLEX and english exams you then need to apply through CGFNS for visa screen and arrange with your state to let CGFNS know you have passed as you need visa screen for immigration.

I would suggest doing plenty of reading on here and make notes as a lot of your questions will have probably been answered, and at the moment concentrate on passing NCLEX

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