The Trump administration is prohibiting officials at the nation's top public health agency from using a list of seven words or phrases - including "fetus" and "transgender" - in any official documents being prepared for next year's budget.
Policy analysts at the Centers for Disease Control in Atlanta were told of the list of forbidden words at a meeting Thursday with senior CDC officials who oversee the budget, according to an analyst who took part in the 90-minute briefing. The forbidden words are "vulnerable," "entitlement," "diversity," "transgender," "fetus," "evidence-based" and "science-based."
This is an attack on our very society itself. I could not believe it when I read it. I feel like a revolution may be inevitable if this trend continues. To ban the words "evidence-based" is beyond words for me to write.
ETA: The other words banned are: "vulnerable," "entitlement," "diversity," "transgender," "fetus," and "science-based." No less horrendous.
Here's the latest from "The Hill" the director of the CDC says there are no banned words, and "The Hill" said the communication from Trump administration staff to the CDC was "reportedly", so there you have it for now. It is the usual stuff with people up in arms all the time and so easily offended. Make your judgments when you get all the information. And make sure you don't get all of it from the internet.
Here's the latest from "The Hill" the director of the CDC says there are no banned words, and "The Hill" said the communication from Trump administration staff to the CDC was "reportedly", so there you have it for now. It is the usual stuff with people up in arms all the time and so easily offended. Make your judgments when you get all the information. And make sure you don't get all of it from the internet.
The current director of the CDC, Dr. Brenda Fitzgerald, the individual making the reassuring statements, is a Trump appointee who is a former adviser to Newt Gingrich. Given the track record of this administration so far with the truth, I have a hard time putting much stock in anything she says.
Yes, the current Director of the CDC is a big Trump supporter. What would you expect her to say? I would expect her to remain loyal to her boss no matter how ridiculous the mandate from that boss.
That is what being a good follower is all about.
More people should be offended.
Again, the Washington Post gave us the Pentagon Papers and brought down a corrupt Richard Nixon. I have no reason to doubt their credibility.
they are not saying to not use the words in reports or articles or scientific publications or anything else the C.D.C. does,†the former official said. They're saying not to use it in your request for money because it will hurt you. It's not about censoring what C.D.C. can say to the American public. It's about a budget strategy to get funded.â€
People just want to hate President Trump, and want other people to hate him as well. If you want to research yourself, on much of what the mainstream media produces, duckduckgo The_Donald.
People just want to hate President Trump, and want other people to hate him as well. If you want to research yourself, on much of what the mainstream media produces, duckduckgo The_Donald.
Yes, the subsequent reporting is suggesting that this is less a "ban" imposed by the administration, and more a matter of self-censorship by the organization in the budget proposals, as a means of placating and stroking the simple-minded conservative ideologues who are now responsible for making decisions about healthcare policy in the US. Oh, well, that's so much better ...
Yes, the subsequent reporting is suggesting that this is less a "ban" imposed by the administration, and more a matter of self-censorship by the organization in the budget proposals, as a means of placating and stroking the simple-minded conservative ideologues who are now responsible for making decisions about healthcare policy in the US. Oh, well, that's so much better ...
Wow. Simple-minded conservative ideologues? So because we can't be outraged that President Trump banned words, because he didn't, and had no part in making the decision for the CDC to censor itself in budget proposals, now we have a different narrative that conservatives are just dumb.
Were "liberals" equality simple-minded when President Obama banned the words "Islam", "Islamic extremism", and "Sharia" from U.S. Homeland Security documents in order to not offend people for the appeasement of "progressive-thinkers"? I don't remember any outrage for hampering speech when that occurred. And to further this point, this was the man who was suppose to be fighting ISIS - Islamic terrorists.
The CDC chose to limit their vocabulary as a means to receive funding. Healthcare policy is a separate entity from what budget the CDC receives, and just because the CDC decided that for themselves isn't indicative at all about what healthcare policies will come from the administration. However, as far as President Obama's banned words go, we were trying to fight Islamic extremists and the Commander-in-Chief didn't even believe in it.
By the way, I don't need to bring up President Obama's actions to legitimize the Trump Presidency. Donald Trump has already done that himself, in extraordinary fashion. I only bring up Barack Obama's actions to show the hypocrisy.
Wow. Simple-minded conservative ideologues? So because we can't be outraged that President Trump banned words, because he didn't, and had no part in making the decision for the CDC to censor itself in budget proposals, now we have a different narrative that conservatives are just dumb.
Were "liberals" equality simple-minded when President Obama banned the words "Islam", "Islamic extremism", and "Sharia" from U.S. Homeland Security documents in order to not offend people for the appeasement of "progressive-thinkers"? I don't remember any outrage for hampering speech when that occurred. And to further this point, this was the man who was suppose to be fighting ISIS - Islamic terrorists.
The CDC chose to limit their vocabulary as a means to receive funding. Healthcare policy is a separate entity from what budget the CDC receives, and just because the CDC decided that for themselves isn't indicative at all about what healthcare policies will come from the administration. However, as far as President Obama's banned words go, we were trying to fight Islamic extremists and the Commander-in-Chief didn't even believe in it.
By the way, I don't need to bring up President Obama's actions to legitimize the Trump Presidency. Donald Trump has already done that himself, in extraordinary fashion. I only bring up Barack Obama's actions to show the hypocrisy.
1. Trump cronies are attacking science. Trump hisself has been attacking science of the EPA, CDC, NIH etc before he was even elected. Trump may or may not played a direct role in censoring these document, but we do know that it would not have been done if Trump wasn't the President.
2. Classic whataboutism: Well what about Obama. Obama didn't hide behind his cronies. He was upfront with saying the war on terrorism was not a war on Islam. Obama wanted it to be clear on that point and had training materials, documents and other material that had already been viewed as anti-Muslim to redone with more specific terms. As had been said in the past we don't use the term Christian terrorists (even though christains are involved in many more terrorists attacks than Muslims) so why should we condemn the whole Muslim/Islamic community for the act of a few.
The hyprocicy between the two is only in your mind.
If you can't see the difference in what Trump is doing to the science community then there is no hope for you.
We are going through a presidency where political opinion matters more than scientific facts.
Wow. Simple-minded conservative ideologues? So because we can't be outraged that President Trump banned words, because he didn't, and had no part in making the decision for the CDC to censor itself in budget proposals, now we have a different narrative that conservatives are just dumb.
I was referring specifically to the simple-minded conservative ideologues in the current administration and GOP majority in the Congress. Not conservatives generally. (Although, if the shoe fits ...)
1. Trump cronies are attacking science. Trump hisself has been attacking science of the EPA, CDC, NIH etc before he was even elected. Trump may or may not played a direct role in censoring these document, but we do know that it would not have been done if Trump wasn't the President.
What exactly has he attacked from the organizations?
The CDC has come out saying that President Trump did not ask for these words to be banned, censor, or otherwise avoided. That it was the CDC themselves who are self-censoring. What more do you need to eliminate President Trump from the beginning equation? Furthermore, no one knows if those words would be censored with a different President, that is an assumption. To add to that, if it weren't these words with President Trump, they would be different words had we had a different President. The difference is, there would be absolutely no media covering it, meaning no hysterical outcry that "TRUMP BANNED WORDS!", because it wouldn't be Donald Trump.
Edit: I do understand the last sentence is an assumption as well, but let's be honest, it probably wouldn't get the coverage it did had Donald Trump not be President.
2. Classic whataboutism: Well what about Obama. Obama didn't hide behind his cronies. He was upfront with saying the war on terrorism was not a war on Islam. Obama wanted it to be clear on that point and had training materials, documents and other material that had already been viewed as anti-Muslim to redone with more specific terms. As had been said in the past we don't use the term Christian terrorists (even though christains are involved in many more terrorists attacks than Muslims) so why should we condemn the whole Muslim/Islamic community for the act of a few.
The hyprocicy between the two is only in your mind.
Not whataboutism. I distinctly disproved the argument that President Trump banned CDC from using certain words, including a source. Yes, it is hypocrisy, but you are forgetting the second part of whataboutism. Maybe you should look up the definition.
From my stance, I am not so much upset over the banning of the words, such as "Islam", as I am about the blatantly obvious bias of and incorrect reporting going on and havoc following suit solely based on who may or may not have said what.
No one is condemning the Islamic community as a whole. That is not what "Islamist terrorists" or "Islamic extremism" means. The two phrases describe those who practice the religion of Islam to the extreme, enacting terrorism. Some believe it to be because the interpretation of the Quran, and the scripture enforces that to be the purest devotee to Islam you must participate various acts, where some of the terrorism comes into play. To them, they are just being a good Muslim, following the Quran, in their interpretation. To everyone else, it's terrorism. Not every Muslim believes these things that "Islamic extremists" profess to be from the Prophet, written in the Quran, and not every Muslim is a terrorist.
I've never read the Quran, so I'm not going to list the acts the Quran says, as again, the interpretations can differ.
No one says "Christian terrorists" because when a Christian commits terrorism, they are not doing so in the name of their God. I'm sure there are a few cases of Christian terrorists that do do it for their God, but how many can you even find a link between - as in this person is a terrorist because Christianity? When you have Muslim's yelling "Allah Akbar" when committing terrorism, the two ARE linked and this happening is weekly. ISIS has made numerous videos about how the crimes they commit are in the name of their God. That's what "Islamic terrorism/extremism" is. Don't believe it to mean every Muslim is a terrorist, because that's not what it is, nor what it ever was.
If you can't see the difference in what Trump is doing to the science community then there is no hope for you.
We are going through a presidency where political opinion matters more than scientific facts.
Again, I'd like to know what he is "doing to the science community"...
I think we are going through a fantastic presidency. If you think only this presidency, as opposed to past presidencies, thinks political opinion matters more than scientific facts, I don't think you've been paying attention.
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Here's the latest from "The Hill" the director of the CDC says there are no banned words, and "The Hill" said the communication from Trump administration staff to the CDC was "reportedly", so there you have it for now. It is the usual stuff with people up in arms all the time and so easily offended. Make your judgments when you get all the information. And make sure you don't get all of it from the internet.