Calling in sick??

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Ok, I was called in to my Director's office the other day, and she told me that I had called in 6 times since January, the last being early April. She said this was grounds for termination, but this all occurred before she took over our unit, and she knew I, nor anyone else, had ever been told about this policy, so she did not plan to terminate anyone over absenteeism, but I would be written up, put on "probation" and could not call in for 120 days and I would have to have a Dr. excuse for any abscence after that! Well, all of the times I called in were for my 3 year old son, we had just put him in day care at the first of the year, and he came down with everything, you name it he had it!! I also had a Dr.'s excuse from his pediatrician for every time, and I was told that an abscence is an abscence, whether you have a Dr.'s note or not, ummmm, but I have to have one if I call in again?? Well, right now, I am sooo sick, chills, fever, coughing, laryngitis.....and after much deliberation, I had to call in for my shift today!! I was going to try and make, but my husband could tell how sick I was and he said he would call, if I didn't!! I would just like some other opinions of this policy. I know I have missed alot of work, and may be let go after today, but I am a Per Diem employee, does that make a difference? I hope I get alot of feedback from you guys on here!!!

Specializes in Operating Room.
The weather is good today, Im in a mood where I need a mental health day off. Im meeting my counselor at the golf course, and the beer cart lady too.

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I don't know if I ever mentioned this in any of my other posts, but I am a brand new nurse and this is the first job I have EVER had in health care. I have had other jobs before and was always informed of their "calling in" policy upon being hired, and most of the time had to sign something stating I had read and understood the policy. I have looked back at all of my paper work when I was hired and that we got during Hospital Orientation and there is nothing about only being allowed a certain number of absences! The only thing is in the Employee Handbook and it states is, if you must call in then you need to do so in a timely manner, and if you will be out for more than one day, you will need a Dr.'s excuse, it says chronic absences may be grounds for counseling or termination, but nothing about a certain number. I'm starting to think this policy is one that this new Director enforces, not a policy for every unit across the board. Like I said before, if this is HER policy, so be it, but do not try to enforce it for absences that occurred before she took over! Well, trust me, if I do go somewhere else, asking about their absentee policy will be at the top of my list!! Lesson learned I guess.

Specializes in Critical care/ER, SRNA.
Ok, I was called in to my Director's office the other day, and she told me that I had called in 6 times since January, the last being early April. She said this was grounds for termination, but this all occurred before she took over our unit, and she knew I, nor anyone else, had ever been told about this policy, so she did not plan to terminate anyone over absenteeism, but I would be written up, put on "probation" and could not call in for 120 days and I would have to have a Dr. excuse for any abscence after that! Well, all of the times I called in were for my 3 year old son, we had just put him in day care at the first of the year, and he came down with everything, you name it he had it!! I also had a Dr.'s excuse from his pediatrician for every time, and I was told that an abscence is an abscence, whether you have a Dr.'s note or not, ummmm, but I have to have one if I call in again?? Well, right now, I am sooo sick, chills, fever, coughing, laryngitis.....and after much deliberation, I had to call in for my shift today!! I was going to try and make, but my husband could tell how sick I was and he said he would call, if I didn't!! I would just like some other opinions of this policy. I know I have missed alot of work, and may be let go after today, but I am a Per Diem employee, does that make a difference? I hope I get alot of feedback from you guys on here!!!

Just a suggestion, but if you are perdiem, why not work on the days your husband has off and he can stay home with your child? You are very fortunate to have a spouse who also works. Imagine what a single parent goes through?

Just to play devil's advocate, doesn't it suck when you are at work and someone calls out and your work load doubles sometimes triples? Managers need reliability because many times it comes down to patient safety when there aren't enough nurses on the unit. Also, someone may have been willing to work hours on the day you were scheduled to work, but there wasn't a need because you were on the schedule. Now that you have called in sick, there is no one to cover it. This is what a manager has to look at.

I agree children should come first, but if you don't have a job to support the child, then where will you find yourself?

Thanks for the reply Zozzy, and good point about my husband, but he works shift work at a refinery and it is just too hard to schedule myself around his schedule, plus I'm in school for my RN and I can't work on those days, so I'm limited. I also really understand how hard it is when someone calls in, and I really feel bad when I have to, but I have never called in unless I had no alternative! I have never had a problem on any other job I have had about calling in, I was always one of the most dependable employees, but that was also before I had my son, and he has been sick alot since he was born, I was fortunate with my daughter, she hardly ever got sick! My son just has allergies, and this problem all started when we put him in day care, he caught EVERYTHING, and it hit him doubly hard because of his allergies!! We have thought about taking him out of day care, but he really enjoys it and is learning so much, plus now that flu season is over, he's really doing fine. He just seems to have a problem in the Winter time. Plus per diem at my hospital may be different than some, we schedule ourselves, but the schedule is made a couple of months at a time, so if something happens a few weeks down the road and I am scheduled, then I can't change it, I have to call in. This is why I think I may try Agency, because most of the ones around here schedule week to week, I think that will be better for me, but only if I don't get the transfer to OB. Well, thanks again for the reply, I hope what I said makes sense.

Specializes in Critical care/ER, SRNA.
Thanks for the reply Zozzy, and good point about my husband, but he works shift work at a refinery and it is just too hard to schedule myself around his schedule, plus I'm in school for my RN and I can't work on those days, so I'm limited. I also really understand how hard it is when someone calls in, and I really feel bad when I have to, but I have never called in unless I had no alternative! I have never had a problem on any other job I have had about calling in, I was always one of the most dependable employees, but that was also before I had my son, and he has been sick alot since he was born, I was fortunate with my daughter, she hardly ever got sick! My son just has allergies, and this problem all started when we put him in day care, he caught EVERYTHING, and it hit him doubly hard because of his allergies!! We have thought about taking him out of day care, but he really enjoys it and is learning so much, plus now that flu season is over, he's really doing fine. He just seems to have a problem in the Winter time. Plus per diem at my hospital may be different than some, we schedule ourselves, but the schedule is made a couple of months at a time, so if something happens a few weeks down the road and I am scheduled, then I can't change it, I have to call in. This is why I think I may try Agency, because most of the ones around here schedule week to week, I think that will be better for me, but only if I don't get the transfer to OB. Well, thanks again for the reply, I hope what I said makes sense.

Agency nursing is great! I have done it off and on for many years. If you don't mind being going to different hospitals it might be just what you are looking for. Most agencies will schedule a week or more at time, but some of them will also do day to day scheduling. It just depends on the agency needs in your area. Keep your head up and don't get discouraged. The beautiful thing about nursing is finding jobs with flexiblity. You will find what works for you.

;)Always remember though, where ever you go, administration is rarely on the side of nurses, they have the bottom line to worry about, and that is all about money.;)

I agree children should come first, but if you don't have a job to support the child, then where will you find yourself?

Also, part of having your children come first means making sure you have a job to support them.

Also, part of having your children come first means making sure you have a job to support them.

Yes, that is sooo true! I am fortunate that my husband has a really good, stable job! He has worked his tail off to put me through school, and I love him for that!! He is also standing behind me 100% with this "write up" issue and will support any decision I make. I am going to see it through and hopefully I will still get the transfer to the OB floor, if not, I will probably not work while I'm in school this Summer, and I'll be looking for something else in the meantime! I really hate to leave where I'm at, mainly because I love the people I work with, they have all been so helpful and patient with me, but I have felt uneasy since I started there, trust me, the turnover at this hospital is VERY high, they just can't seem to keep good nurses! Well, that's all for now, keep the replies coming, they are so helpful!!

Specializes in L&D.

For the hospital I work for we can call in a total of 4 times in a 12 month period. Thank goodness my husband can work from home if the kids get sick. Also thank goodness I work 7p-7a. Of course unless I actually get sick. Then there could be a problem! lol

Wow! I wasn't aware of any of these policies! Good info to keep in mind. I have Sarcoidosis, and I was out of work for 8 months, although I am only a Perdiem nurse at this time, my employer was very understanding. I guess I'm lucky!

Well, a little update on my situation. Today I went to HR to inquire about FMLA for my abscences with my son. The first thing the HR lady asked me was, "how long have you been here?" I told her 9 months, she said, "Oh, you have to be here one year to file FMLA!!" I really thought this was a federal law that was to protect you from being terminated for missing work due to a chronic illness, or sick family member? How can they put a time limit on a LAW?? Well, the next thing I asked about was the transfer I put in to our OB floor, which has been my dream to work on for a looong time!! She said, "well, you can't be transferred for 6 months if you have a write up in your file!!!"" I'm starting to think this was a set up, mainly because I had my Director sign my transfer form 2 weeks ago, and then she decides to "write me up", last week! Well, I'm sure that is a BIG reason why I haven't heard back from the OB Director about my transfer, since they do check your file for counseling and write ups!! I'm just sooo PO'd I can't see straight, mainly because my Director is writing us up for things that happened before she took over!! I did go the Dr. yesterday and got an excuse for missing work, but as I was told, Dr. excuse's don't matter!! Trust me, this isn't over, I will try and talk to the OB Director and explain my situation, then I'm going to take this "write up" thing to HR. My point is going to be, first, I was never even as much given a verbal warning by my previous Director, even though I went to him every time about why I called in, second, I'm would really like to know why the NEW Director is doing "write ups" for things the old one should have done/or not done?? I'll keep ya'll posted! Please continue to share your stories, they all sound really familier!!

Your HR director is not giving you a hard time regarding FMLA regulations. FMLA is not automatically granted to every employee; you must meet basic eligibility:

FMLA FAQ

I'm sorry about the write ups. I'm sure it's frustrating for you, but looking at it from your manager's POV, she puts you in for that shift and expects you to be there. If you are calling off frequently (even if it's totally legit), she's got to follow the call-off policy. What the previous director did or didn't do is not relevant.

She shouldn't be writing you up for things that happened before she was your manager, though.

She shouldn't be writing you up for things that happened before she was your manager, though.

See, that's my whole point right there!! I'm not upset about the policy itself, it seems pretty reasonable, I'm just upset because I was blindsided by this, I mean you usually get a verbal warning first, nope, she jumped straight to the "write up" and all the while she was saying, "I know you were never warned about this, but I just have to do my job." So, she knew that we did not know about this policy, and still wrote us up, and by "us" I mean me and the 5 other nurses she got on the same day. So, that is it in a nutshell. Now, is there anyway to argue this point with HR since I signed the write up? I really want it removed from my file, or at least lowered to a verbal warning. The only reason I signed it was because she made it seem like no big deal, and she really caught me at a bad time, I had 7 patients that day, and one was on his way back from a procedure, so I was a little rushed, and I just signed it and ran! As far as FMLA goes, I have researched it more and I understand why I can't claim it yet, so no biggy on that. So, if anyone has an idea of how I might argue this point about her writing us up for things that happened before she was Manager, I could use the advice!! Thanks in advance!

Specializes in Community Health, Med-Surg, Home Health.

With the high volume of patients, low staff and low morale, call ins will continue to be a reality in health care. I have to admit that I will take time off when I need it. I work to live, not live to work, and if my physical and emotional stamina is at stake, I cannot help someone else. The other consideration is medication errors. With constant changes in orders, demands and distractions in our line of work, the safety of our patients will unfortunately always be compromised. If I think that I cannot practice effectively, then, I will do what I have to do. I do see the perspective of the employers as well, but, I have to look out for me, first.

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