maybe its just me, but i get very bothered when someone says "i'm a nurse," and their not, their a cna, or nurse aid, or have no schooling at all and just worked their way up in a clinic. i work at a local emergency clinic 30 hours a week to gain experience in my field, and i just got accepted in ns, and i'v worked darn hard to get here! and i find it bothersome when one of the girls at work say "i'm the nurse" or something along those lines...i feel that when i graduate and pass my nclex that, only then, will i be able to say "i'm a nurse." the other day my doctor said "jamie, will you get a nurse?" i said "im sorry doc, i dont think we have any of those working here." he actually laughed and said "you know what i mean"......but is this just me?????
That's right. And when some unlicensed person, through sheer ignorance, gives them poor care, guess who they're going to take it out on? The licensed nurse.
I've seen just as many licensed nurses give poor care as unlicensed CNA's and techs.
At my place, we've never had a nurse suffer any negative repercussions because an aide gave someone poor care. The aides are a seperate department with a seperate boss. If they aren't doing their job properly, they are the ones taken to task, not the nurse.
If it didn't really matter to the public, there would be no such law on the books. Neither would there be licensure for nurses. These laws are there to protect an ignorant public about who is and who is not a nurse.
Most laws are not on the books due to public outcry. A few opinionated people with a smidgen of influence can lobby the powers that be to get their personal pet peeves made into laws.
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I've seen just as many licensed nurses give poor care as unlicensed CNA's and techs.
At my place, we've never had a nurse suffer any negative repercussions because an aide gave someone poor care. The aides are a seperate department with a seperate boss. If they aren't doing their job properly, they are the ones taken to task, not the nurse.
And, if the licensed nurse delegates a task (within the CNA/tech SOP) to the CNA/tech and they do not do the job properly, the licensed nurse can still be held responsible.
In my state it is a misdemeanor to refer to oneself as nurse if not duly licensed as such.
17-87-104. Penalty.
(a)(1) It shall be a misdemeanor for any person to:
Use in connection with his or her name any of the following titles, names, or initials, if the user is not properly licensed under this chapter:
(i) Nurse;
BON are in place to protect the public, not just to regulate nursing.
At my place, the nurses don't delegate tasks. They are a seperate department from the techs. The employee who makes the error is the one who answers for it.
None of our nurses would want to delegate a task to someone else if they were going to be responsible for that persons performance. That would leave them open to a disgruntled underling setting them up for discipline.
At my place, the nurses don't delegate tasks. They are a seperate department from the techs. The employee who makes the error is the one who answers for it.
None of our nurses would want to delegate a task to someone else if they were going to be responsible for that persons performance. That would leave them open to a disgruntled underling setting them up for discipline.
I've seen just as many licensed nurses give poor care as unlicensed CNA's and techs.
FYI There are bad examples in any profession. Bad doctors, bad lawyers, bad waitresses...yada yada
Why are you soooo down on nurses yet according to your profile you are a nursing student? Maybe you should reconsider.
You've got nurses here by the score, of all ages, with various degrees, with expertise in all areas telling you that it is against the law to refer to yourself as a nurse. BON policies have been quoted. Yet you continue to argue?
I don't know where you work but nearly 100% of all CNA's work under the license of a nurse. The less than 1% that you work with should consider themselves lucky or rather the nurses should consider themselves lucky to not be responsible for them.
Our first admendment guarantees our freedom of speech and I believe everyone has a right to their own opinions but respectfully you seriously need to reconsider becoming a nurse.
If it didn't really matter to the public, there would be no such law on the books. Neither would there be licensure for nurses. These laws are there to protect an ignorant public about who is and who is not a nurse.
Most laws are not on the books due to public outcry. A few opinionated people with a smidgen of influence can lobby the powers that be to get their personal pet peeves made into laws.
Case in point:
HIPAA
Sudafed must be requested from Pharmacist and ID
must be present to purchase
I'm sure the same thing happened with many other laws in existence today but just because you personally do not agree with the law does not mean that you cannot be held accountable for upholding it.
I'm getting the feeling here, from your responses, that you do not agree with the law that says only licensed nurses may call themselves "nurse."
Be that as it may, I have done my duty to inform you of the law, so now you cannot say you didn't know about it.
I work as a home health nurse & have to call Dr's offices to get orders. Lots of times the "nurse" is the one getting the order from the doc & calling me back or okaying orders. Once I had a pt. on coumadin & I was trying to get orders to do lab draws but the doc wasn't calling back. Finally, after about 5 days the doc called back, furious. I told her I talked to her "nurse" who said such & such (can't remember the specifics). Come to find out that "nurse" isn't a nurse but a "patient coordinator" whatever that is. In the end I ended up doing my part & documented all my calls. The doc was only mad because she messed up & had to try to blame somebody else. Well, now when I talk to the doc's staff I make sure I ask if they're a licensed RN or LVN.
I can soooo relate dmg! Problem I run into is that some doctors don't have even one licensed person working in their office. If I insist on talking to the doctor the doctor gets PO'd and c/o's to the agency. The hospital I work for only allows us to take orders from a licensed person, the HH agency hasn't woken up yet.
This is my very first post/reply:thankya:. I am a Registered Medical Assistant/Nursing student. I do not refer to myself as a nurse because I'm not a nurse yet. There's a girl in our office who tells the patients' that the "nurse" will take you back now. It drives me crazy. I tell her to please don't refer to me as a nurse because it is against the law but she just laughs. Also, I've gone to other Dr's offices and been told that I was seeing a nurse only to find out she's not. Nurses work very hard for their degrees and the title of nurse should not be used lightly. In our office we do many things that I think only a nurse should be doing, but If we don't do it, they'll find someone who will. Unfornuately, I think that some Dr's look at medical assistants as a cheap substitute for a nurse and push us to perform duties outside our scope.
this is my very first post/reply:thankya:. i am a registered medical assistant/nursing student. i do not refer to myself as a nurse because i'm not a nurse yet. there's a girl in our office who tells the patients' that the "nurse" will take you back now. it drives me crazy. i tell her to please don't refer to me as a nurse because it is against the law but she just laughs. also, i've gone to other dr's offices and been told that i was seeing a nurse only to find out she's not. nurses work very hard for their degrees and the title of nurse should not be used lightly. in our office we do many things that i think only a nurse should be doing, but if we don't do it, they'll find someone who will. unfornuately, i think that some dr's look at medical assistants as a cheap substitute for a nurse and push us to
perform duties outside our scope.
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glad to hear that you are going into nursing. your post is so valuable imho and not only was it your first post but you received your first "thank you". please stay with all nurses, we're really a very friendly and very helpful group! :redpinkhe
I've been reading the posts on allnurses.com for a long time and I've learned so much. I am so thankful there's a website where healthcare professionals can go for answers and share their experiences. Thanks again
i could get myself in trouble here but I agree wholeheartedly with everyone. Nothing irritates me more when people call a CNA or med tech a
'nurse." We've all worked too hard and the last time I checked we have degrees and are licensed and NOT certified as are CNA's & med techs in most states.
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