The neutrality agreement the CNA and the SEIU obtained between Tenet Healthcare and the SEIU has been ruled as "Illegal Assistance to Unions" by the National Labor Relations Board. This precident was set after a suit filed by a Los Angeles area RN from Whittier Hospital Medical Center.
The Hospital has formally anounced that they will no longer recognize the CNA as the bargaining agent for the Registered Nurses at that facility. Talks with the SEIU have ended. The CNA has also agreed to REFUND union dues collected under this illegal agreement.
This affects Tenet and former Tenet employees who may have had dues collected illegally under this "Neutrality Agreement". If your hospital voted in the CNA and/or the SEIU under this agreement and the union won but not by a majority of the bargaining unit you may be able to have the results of the election overturned and your unlawfully collected dues refunded to you.
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To the antiunion voices here, I offer my congratulations. You got the union out, you won. I trust you won't be complaining about ratios, layoffs, managers pay, lapses in patient care and corporate greed. After all, you will simply march into the CEO's office on your own, and make thing right for you and your patients. No doubt the powers that be in your institution will do the right thing at your urging.
Thank you for the congratulations! I will accept it with the sarcasm and cynicism with which it was intended.
Now I ask you, do you truly believe that unionism solves the problems you state? How will unions solve corporate greed? How will it solve layoffs? How will it solve the problem of managers pay? What is the problem with managers pay? I make more than my manager. I may spend more actual time in the unit than she does, but she has two critical-care units to run and is responsible for 125 RN's and 8 unit secretaries. I clock out at the end of my shift and I am done. She carries a beeper and must be available 24/7. Lapses in patient care? Who takes care of patients? Nurses do! We as nurses are responsible for patient care. Not unions.
Unions can promise patient care committees and retention and recruitment committees but it is the nurses who must form, join and organize the committee. The union does not magically provide motivated staff members to do all this. If you were not a positive motivated member of our profession before, how will a union make you a better nurse?
The nursing shortage? How do we solve that problem? I know! Lets march up and down if front of the state capital building and carry signs telling the whole world how much it sucks to be a nurse. Let's yell and scream while our Governor is speaking and show our young people how professional nurses behave when they want something. Let's walk out on our patients and picket, that will make our high school students want to be nurses.
Union demands are a prime reason GM's stock is junk status. GM is now referred to as a health care company that makes cars. Unions originally served workers quite well but the working conditions are not what they were back at the turn of the century. Today Unions mostly benefit subpar employees more than the stellar employee and it can be quite difficuilt to fire sub-performing employees under most union conditions.
Union demands are a prime reason GM's stock is junk status. GM is now referred to as a health care company that makes cars. Unions originally served workers quite well but the working conditions are not what they were back at the turn of the century. Today Unions mostly benefit subpar employees more than the stellar employee and it can be quite difficuilt to fire sub-performing employees under most union conditions.
That's ridiculous. GM's problems stem from the fact that they build lousy cars ... And the fact that they refused to invest in hybrid vehicles (like Toyota and Ford did) which are selling like hotcakes because of higher gas prices.
You know ... it's hard to sell gas guzzling SUV's when gas prices are sky high. Of course, now GM says they're going to invest in hybrids ... but it's kinda late.
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That's ridiculous. GM's problems stem from the fact that they build lousy cars ... And the fact that they refused to invest in hybrid vehicles (like Toyota and Ford did) which are selling like hotcakes because of higher gas prices.
You know ... it's hard to sell gas guzzling SUV's when gas prices are sky high. Of course, now GM says they're going to invest in hybrids ... but it's kinda late.
That's not the union's fault. That's GM's fault.
I live in Southern California and everytime I turn around I see a Chevy Silverado, GM Sierra, a Hummer or a Cadillac Escalade. GM has 5 of the top 20 selling vehicles according to this website http://www.autoblog.com/entry/1234000960038594/. One problem GM does have is that in order to fund the ourtrageous pension and healthcare plans the unions demanded years ago it has less money to spend on research and developement. GM should and could do better. What will the UAW do to help?
Lizz you are totally wrong the healthcare demands from it's employees are killing GM. Companies like Toyota and Nissan don't have the health care expenses of GM because the government runs health care in Japan it has nothing to do with building hybrids. I bet hybrids are less than .025% of the vehicles sold in this country.
Right. How dare workers expect health insurance as a benefit of their employment? It should be noted that GM does not only build cars in the US and Nissan and Toyota don't only build cars in Japan. Ontario has a lot of car manufacturing plants. The fact is Toyota makes better cars. I've never owned a foreign car before, but am planning on buying a Honda or Toyota this summer.
The nursing shortage? How do we solve that problem? I know! Lets march up and down if front of the state capital building and carry signs telling the whole world how much it sucks to be a nurse. Let's yell and scream while our Governor is speaking and show our young people how professional nurses behave when they want something. Let's walk out on our patients and picket, that will make our high school students want to be nurses.
News flash: There is no nursing shortage. There are simply many well caring nurses unwilling to work under the conditions set forth by the hospital industry. It is the hospital industry who INVENTED the myth of the nursing shortage. Unions arise from workers unwilling to accept lousy working conditions. They are VOTED in. The lousy companies like Columbia, and Tenet answer to no one. Did you vote for the administrator at your hospital?
Right. How dare workers expect health insurance as a benefit of their employment? It should be noted that GM does not only build cars in the US and Nissan and Toyota don't only build cars in Japan. Ontario has a lot of car manufacturing plants. The fact is Toyota makes better cars. I've never owned a foreign car before, but am planning on buying a Honda or Toyota this summer.
It still doesn't change the fact that GM is in trouble due to the demands of their unions health care coverage. Little to no copay for office visits or prescriptions for both current and former employees. When GM goes belly up and those employees lose everything, all we will here from people on here is how evil GM was to screw over it's employees.
Lizz you are totally wrong the healthcare demands from it's employees are killing GM. Companies like Toyota and Nissan don't have the health care expenses of GM because the government runs health care in Japan it has nothing to do with building hybrids. I bet hybrids are less than .025% of the vehicles sold in this country.
It's a well publicized fact that there are waiting lists for hybrids all over the country. Some of the waiting lists at Toyota dealerships are as long as six months.
According to Toyota's website, they have 30,000 employees in the U.S. with six manufacturing plants here. I doubt that Japanese government run healthcare does anything to defray their healthcare expenses here.
The fact is Toyota makes better cars. I've never owned a foreign car before, but am planning on buying a Honda or Toyota this summer.
On a side note and totally off topic (sorry) ....
Definitely buy Toyota. I have a '96 forerunner that has 150,000 miles on it and that car is still running smooth as silk. This car never breaks down. Definitely worth the investment. I'll probably get another 100,000 miles out of it before I have to replace it.
I've also been rear ended three times, and the car barely had a dent in it, even when I was hit by a Mack truck. Very safe and reliable.
According to Toyota's website, they have 30,000 employees in the U.S. with six manufacturing plants here. I doubt that Japanese government run healthcare does anything to defray their healthcare expenses here.
Exactly and don't forget GM doesn't just build cars in the US. They have plants in Canada and Europe where health insurance costs aren't an issue like they are in the US. Despite that, they've been losing money in Europe for 5 years in a row. They are already cutting jobs, and pension contributions, but that can't make up for their sales continuing to drop (down 10% from last year through February according to this article).
Specializes in Cardiac Critical Care, Trauma, Neuro..
news flash: there is no nursing shortage. there are simply many well caring nurses unwilling to work under the conditions set forth by the hospital industry. it is the hospital industry who invented the myth of the nursing shortage. unions arise from workers unwilling to accept lousy working conditions.quote]
so the hospital industry created the "myth of the nursing shortage" because they wanted a reason to pay nurses more money?
look at all the nursing trade magazines and papers. look at monster.com or other employment websites. go to a large nursing convention meet all the recruiters. take a look at their offers. i was at the nti critical-care nurses convention in new orleans in may. i was offered $10,000 sign on bonuses, all moving expenses paid. i was offered housing. i was offered excellant wages. i am sure that the hospital industry created the nursing shortage because they had some extra money floating around and wanted to share it with me. not because they have a hard time attracting experienced rn's.
nursing is a great career. there are so many choices to make. so i want to work in peds or gi lab? cardiac critical-care or home health? per-diem or full time? travel? why not?. nurses as spread thin because of all the choices we have. what a terrible position to be in.
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Thank you for the congratulations! I will accept it with the sarcasm and cynicism with which it was intended.
Now I ask you, do you truly believe that unionism solves the problems you state? How will unions solve corporate greed? How will it solve layoffs? How will it solve the problem of managers pay? What is the problem with managers pay? I make more than my manager. I may spend more actual time in the unit than she does, but she has two critical-care units to run and is responsible for 125 RN's and 8 unit secretaries. I clock out at the end of my shift and I am done. She carries a beeper and must be available 24/7. Lapses in patient care? Who takes care of patients? Nurses do! We as nurses are responsible for patient care. Not unions.
Unions can promise patient care committees and retention and recruitment committees but it is the nurses who must form, join and organize the committee. The union does not magically provide motivated staff members to do all this. If you were not a positive motivated member of our profession before, how will a union make you a better nurse?
The nursing shortage? How do we solve that problem? I know! Lets march up and down if front of the state capital building and carry signs telling the whole world how much it sucks to be a nurse. Let's yell and scream while our Governor is speaking and show our young people how professional nurses behave when they want something. Let's walk out on our patients and picket, that will make our high school students want to be nurses.